Viewsonic VX2025wm arrived! First impressions and pics

[coolazn]

mine has very bad back light bleeding. i can almost see the whole frikin tube.

very bright.

but just turn town the brightness and it should help

[noobtech]

I've had this monitor for about a week and have noticed that it has the x pattern backlight bleed. However, what is odd is that I don't notice the pattern while my computer is booting up, only after it gets into windows does it show up. Anyone else notice this, and any idea why this happens?

That's because the light isn't showing at those points... it's completely off as if it were turned off.

[draconius]

Running under Ubuntu Linux 5.10, with the latest Nvidia drivers on a 6600GT AGP card, connected via DVI, I have no problems with scaling, after enabling the 'scaled' option under the 'Flatpanel scaling' portion of the nvidia-settings program.

QuakeIII, Enemy Territory both are scaled properly when theey are set to resolution of 1280x1024..and Videos that are not widescreen are scaled properly in Totem and gxine (I do not know if this is the video card drivers or the programs themselves doing the scaling however)

I am still working on setting up my home network and computers, then I will post pics of the monitor as best I can :D

[Lucky J]

That's because the light isn't showing at those points... it's completely off as if it were turned off.

Okay I'm not that stupid...hahaha. The screen is displaying all the system info during post at this point so the lights have to be on.

[samduhman]

Ya you guys are right. The "X" isnt there all the time. Just fired of a dvd and made my display black in display properties and no "X". So backlight bleed isnt an issue.

So the game scaling issue with the newer nvidia cards. I have an evga 7900GT co/so. Someone name an popular older title and I'll reload it to see what happens.

[LordBritish]

Ya you guys are right. The "X" isnt there all the time. Just fired of a dvd and made my display black in display properties and no "X". So backlight bleed isnt an issue.

So the game scaling issue with the newer nvidia cards. I have an evga 7900GT co/so. Someone name an popular older title and I'll reload it to see what happens.

You don't need an older game title to test the scaling issue.

Just go into the nvidia control panel and find the "Digital Flat Panel Settings". It should be under the "nView Display Settings" or something like that. Just hunt for it - you'll find it.

You will see 4 options:
* Display adapter scaling
* Centered output
* Moinitor scaling
* Fixed aspect ration scaling

Select "centered output" (or "Fixed aspext ration scaling").

Just doing that will produce "Out of Range" on my monitor.

If that still works, change your desktop resolition to say 1024x768.

That should either center it or do fixed aspect ratio depending on what you selected. I can't even get that far due to the previous "Out of Range" issue.

[jayrod]

well i read through and decided to bite the bullet hopefully it will be as good as i anticipate.

[Spiff1333]

For those of you getting the out of range error when trying to force aspect ratio scaling....what refresh rate are you running? 75hz or 60hz

If your trying with 75....try 60. I've heard 75 can cause issuse and in theory there should be no visible difference. I have really picky eyes and have never noticed a difference on any of the LCDs I've used.

[hershey]

I've looked through the whole long ass thread and have seen mixed opinions on the fixed aspect ratio on ATI cards. I REALLY want to get this monitor but i dont want streched images on my older games that i play. I own a X800XL btw, so if anyone owns one of these with an ati card please let me know!

[eXcelon7574]

Does anyone here have a VD-Z3 VGA transcoder hooked up to there VX2025wm for the Xbox 360? It definitely fixes the color, but I am having some trouble with certain games. Just curious if it produces the same results for others. Thanks.

[kidstechno]

I have a X800XL and the Viewsonic VX2025wm, hooked up my 360 also via just the regular MS X360 VGA cable. It's somewhat weird, sometimes it looks really good and sometimes the text and stuff is kind of blurry. BF2:MC still doesn't look all that great but I was playing the Lost Planet E3 demo and the graphics were gorgeous. Fight Night is really good too. Regular PC games look great, HL2: Lost Coast @ 1600x1050 is breathtaking. I'll post some screenies maybe sometime when I become un-lazy.

[hershey]

kidstechno, thank for the reply, do your non widescreen games strech or do you have the black bars on a 4:3 screen?

[kidstechno]

kidstechno, thank for the reply, do your non widescreen games strech or do you have the black bars on a 4:3 screen?

As for PC games, everything looks pretty solid in Widescreen. No black bars whatsoever. WoW in 1600x1050 looks crisp, F.E.A.R looks a little stretched by my friend said it wasn't really developed for Widescreen anywho. Oblivion also looks quite amazing, even scaling it down to 1440x900ish.

[LawGiver]

how looks high definition content in this monitor?

what about xbox360 content, how look using vga?

any of the lower HD resolutions like 480p and 720p will result in black space all around on this LCD. Unless you settle for a stretched imgage then anything is possible.

[Varmint]

I went back to Compusa, and the 2025 is using VGA, so that explains why i wasn't that impressed with the text quality, right?

But it still has that hazy glare coating on it that I don't like.

I saw a $500 Sony 19" and didn't like that at all.

[Eagle156]

OT:

Nixr please check yor PMs.

[AlphexHunter]

My first post :)

Anyways I thinking of getthing 1x Viewsonic VX2025wm and if I like it I will keep it and buy another one. I currently have a Xbox 360 playing on a old crt tv :mad: (and planning to also get the ps3) , I just wanna make sure before I buy this lcd does everything look nice and play right on this monitor and can sommeon post a pic of this lcd playing any xbox 360 game plz! ( ..does it play on 1080p ?)

And if I hade 2xVX2025wm would it be possible to play a xbox game or iven a pc game on both monitor as a complete screen. :confused:

Thanks

[DigitalEdge]

I have a X800XL and the Viewsonic VX2025wm, hooked up my 360 also via just the regular MS X360 VGA cable. It's somewhat weird, sometimes it looks really good and sometimes the text and stuff is kind of blurry. BF2:MC still doesn't look all that great but I was playing the Lost Planet E3 demo and the graphics were gorgeous. Fight Night is really good too. Regular PC games look great, HL2: Lost Coast @ 1600x1050 is breathtaking. I'll post some screenies maybe sometime when I become un-lazy.


Can we see some 360 pics with this lcd....anyone?

[Stone1269]

I am getting more confused about this monitor and ratio scaling. Like many, I get the 'out of range' error if I try to turn on 'Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling' on my 7800GTX. If I hook it up to my son's machine, who has an older ATI 9800 pro with the latest drivers, and select the 'Centered Timings' option, the monitor simply ignores the setting and continues to stretch everything. Yet on an even older machine with a Geforce 5700, I can select 'Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling' and it will work perfectly.

If it were strictly a driver issue, why would there be problems on both ATI and Nvidia cards?

[LordBritish]

I am getting more confused about this monitor and ratio scaling. Like many, I get the 'out of range' error if I try to turn on 'Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling' on my 7800GTX. If I hook it up to my son's machine, who has an older ATI 9800 pro with the latest drivers, and select the 'Centered Timings' option, the monitor simply ignores the setting and continues to stretch everything. Yet on an even older machine with a Geforce 5700, I can select 'Fixed Aspect Ratio Scaling' and it will work perfectly.

If it were strictly a driver issue, why would there be problems on both ATI and Nvidia cards?

There is something really fishy about the whole thing. I'm getting pretty annoyed actually.

I dont know who's fault it is but I hope it gets fixed somehow
:mad: :mad:

[noobtech]

We are not getting that old school quality anymore... looks like we are getting crappier faster performing cards ;-) *shrug*

[cybertron]

I just bought two of these monitors and they are side by side for some browsing and vmware action and I have ot say, they kick my old Dell 1905FP's ass all over the place. The whites are soooo much whiter, and the text is just increadable. Granted the text was superb on the 1905, but this viewsonic is just amazing. When I switched from CRT to lcd, i was so worried i would lost color and all that, and i was right until this unit arrived. I really need to invest in a deskmount arm though so i can flip one of them sideways.

By the way, was anyone able to get these on the J&R deal? $306 AR. :-)

[Varmint]

Compusa now has a $50 rebate, if anyone wants to buy local. $350 AR + tax. They have no restocking fee (according to the website anyway). 21 day return policy.

[Captain Kirk]

I recently bought a VX 2025wm. For some reason, no matter what resolution I choose, the refresh rate is locked at 60 Hz. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know the fix :)?

[Bona Fide]

I recently bought a VX 2025wm. For some reason, no matter what resolution I choose, the refresh rate is locked at 60 Hz. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know the fix :)?

Have you tried updating drivers? Mine had no problems with refresh rate locks :(

[Coldtronius]

I recently bought a VX 2025wm. For some reason, no matter what resolution I choose, the refresh rate is locked at 60 Hz. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know the fix :)?

The LCD is locked at 60hertz at native resolution. Nothing you can do about it.

[Bruce]

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is.

60Hz is fine for an LCD.

[Coldtronius]

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is.

60Hz is fine for an LCD.

I agree, if your a Hertz,framerate or VSYNC whore, then LCD's arn't for you.

[Oompa]

Can someone measure the distance from the desk to the bottom of the display?
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7171/setup0sw1il.jpg

[Coldtronius]

Can someone measure the distance from the desk to the bottom of the display?
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Hey! Thats my picture foo!! :p If your talking from the very bottom of the viewable screen, its 5 3/4" inches if your talking from the outer frame, its about 4"

[AlKa105]

Hi!

I have a problem with this monitor Viewsonic VX2025wm: when i setup the native resolution in win Xp after few minutes it appears a strange image all around the screen: coloured stairs of pixel comes vertically. Then it appears NO SIGNAL and I have to reboot. The strange thing is that I do not have this problem in game, when I play @ 1680x1050.
I use the DVI connection with a geforce 4 4800 SE video card with the latest driver.
Do you know how to solve it?

Thanks
Ale

[AlphexHunter]

Proof right here showing that the people that work at IGN are using the Xbox 360 on there BenQ FP202W 20", witch if I remember correctly when testing all the latest 20" Widescreen the Viewsonic VX2025 came out winner of all of them.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/703/703073p1.html

Now I really dont see y people are saying that the VX2025 looks bad on the Xbox 360!
I've been trying to look at sommeon that actually owns this monitor and the xbox360 and says that it works fine but i can't seem to find anything or anyone.. :mad:

[Oompa]

Hey! Thats my picture foo!! :p If your talking from the very bottom of the viewable screen, its 5 3/4" inches if your talking from the outer frame, its about 4"
First picture I found that included a desk. :) Thanks.

[m0unds]

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on one of these displays. I'll probably just use it as a secondary display, but the thought of that extra desktop space is just too awesome.

[Captain Kirk]

The LCD is locked at 60hertz at native resolution. Nothing you can do about it.
Actually, I wasn't worried about the native res. It's the lower resolutions stuck at 60 Hz that concern me. The monitor advertises that it can do higher refresh rates at those resolutions, so I'd like it to simply perform as advertised.

[MrkXCeL]

Actually, I wasn't worried about the native res. It's the lower resolutions stuck at 60 Hz that concern me. The monitor advertises that it can do higher refresh rates at those resolutions, so I'd like it to simply perform as advertised.
Pretty sure it did 75Hz in VGA Analog in anything but 1680x1050. In DVI it's a whole different scenario. I could get 70.****+ hz in 1024x768 by using NVidia's Custom Resolution Tool and messing around with timing options/refresh rate. But yea, LCDs in general are a BIG dissapointment in this area, esp. for people like me who like vSync at 85

[cybertron]

Pretty sure it did 75Hz in VGA Analog in anything but 1680x1050. In DVI it's a whole different scenario. I could get 70.****+ hz in 1024x768 by using NVidia's Custom Resolution Tool and messing around with timing options/refresh rate. But yea, LCDs in general are a BIG dissapointment in this area, esp. for people like me who like vSync at 85


I personally cant stand anything less than 85hz on a CRT monitor, but with this monitor and other LCD's, I've never had a problem looking at 60hz. I dont think they two are comparible. With a CRT if you have a lo refresh rate, you can clearly see it by looking away from the monitor and only looking at the screen through your periferal vision, but since I have two of these LCD's by viewsonic, I am always looking at one or the other in my periferal vision and have no problems seeing any kind of flickering like i would on a CRT.

just my 2cents

[m0unds]

I personally cant stand anything less than 85hz on a CRT monitor, but with this monitor and other LCD's, I've never had a problem looking at 60hz. I dont think they two are comparible. With a CRT if you have a lo refresh rate, you can clearly see it by looking away from the monitor and only looking at the screen through your periferal vision, but since I have two of these LCD's by viewsonic, I am always looking at one or the other in my periferal vision and have no problems seeing any kind of flickering like i would on a CRT.

just my 2centsthat's because CRT's fool your eyes into thinking the stuff displayed onscreen is a static image, but it's just being updated faster than your eyes can perceive..LCD's dont operate in this manner, so the refresh rate isn't as intrinsically important on an LCD than a CRT.

[Coldtronius]

that's because CRT's fool your eyes into thinking the stuff displayed onscreen is a static image, but it's just being updated faster than your eyes can perceive..LCD's dont operate in this manner, so the refresh rate isn't as intrinsically important on an LCD than a CRT.

Unless your a fan of VSYNC.

And yes, VGA mode is limited to 75hertz, DVI mode is locked at 60hertz, you can't override them, the panel won't go any higher.

[Oompa]

Another measurement please :D. From desk to top of monitor.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/237/setup0sw1zf.jpg

[Dan3290]

wait even with vxync off u cant get more than 60hz?

[Coldtronius]

wait even with vxync off u cant get more than 60hz?

Nope, its 60hertz no matter what in DVI mode. If you go above 60 FPS, your game will "texture tear" Thats the case for 95% of all LCD's. Thats still the big advantage that CRT's have over current LCD's, higher refresh rates to allow higher FPS without texture tearing or enabling VYSNC.

But then again, LCD don't need to be "refreshed" like CRT's phosporous coating does, the crystals are either on or off all the time. The hertz just refers to how often data is sent to the LCD per second

[Dan3290]

i get up to 300 fps in CS on my moms 17 inch dell vga connected lcd 1705 or w/e its called without any tearing is this odd?
Also iw anna pull the trigger tonight in less than 2 hours, my debate is on either the vx2025wm or the vx922. I PLAY LOTS OF GAMES but mostly CS so i want to make sure my monitor is compatible which i dont think the vx2025wm is... plz help me fast.

[Bruce]

Another measurement please :D. From desk to top of monitor.
[IG]http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/237/setup0sw1zf.jpg[/IMG]
17.3"

[MrWizard6600]

WOOOO 40 pages. i think we should bust out the booze....

see how many replies we can get to this. but we have compition, that "dell 30 inch dude" ... comon we gotta beat him. we gotta get to 100 pages!

[draconius]

well for the price to performance, this monitor beats the dell in my book :D

[noobtech]

You can tell which are the top 3 most favorite monitors on this site... The Dell 30", The Sony 24" CRT, and this for the 20"... The Dell 2007 doesn't count, because those are all complaints about banding issues. ;-)

I love it Viewsonic all over again... (used to have a beatiful 19" CRT)

[Ruger44]

so i want to make sure my monitor is compatible which i dont think the vx2025wm is... plz help me fast.

If by "CS" you mean CounterStrike Source, it is supported. HL2 engine supports widescreen in native resolution. I have the VX2025 and have played a little CSS on it. It looked great, played fine. HL2 is awesome on it. Hope that helps.

[Oompa]

17.3"
Oh god. Perfect. The space between my shelf and desk (where the monitor will be) is 17.5" :D

[eastvillager]

Nope, its 60hertz no matter what in DVI mode. If you go above 60 FPS, your game will "texture tear" Thats the case for 95% of all LCD's. Thats still the big advantage that CRT's have over current LCD's, higher refresh rates to allow higher FPS without texture tearing or enabling VYSNC.


Triple buffering not an option?

[Dan3290]

If by "CS" you mean CounterStrike Source, it is supported. HL2 engine supports widescreen in native resolution. I have the VX2025 and have played a little CSS on it. It looked great, played fine. HL2 is awesome on it. Hope that helps.
no... by cs i mean cs 1.6 css is source. I mean normal counter strike

[Eradan]

If by "CS" you mean CounterStrike Source, it is supported. HL2 engine supports widescreen in native resolution. I have the VX2025 and have played a little CSS on it. It looked great, played fine. HL2 is awesome on it. Hope that helps.


HL2 is freaking incredible on this display. Bought mine a few weeks ago for $349 AR at CompUSA. I installed HL2 Sunday just to see what it was going to look like with my X1800XT and ended up playing for three hours. Playing a lot City Of Villains on it as well. 1680x1050 no sweat. The extra desktop real estate is nice for programming, photo editing, and Web development. I've experienced no ghosting or banding. Backlight bleed is present in some circumstances but I don't find it to be objectionable.

My advice to someone on the fence regarding the purchase of this display or any other because of each model's particular deficiencies, TRY IT OUT. What annoys the heck out of one individual may not bother you in the least. See what works for you. The Internet is a great tool for researching potential purchase but it can lead you to paralysis by analysis. I've used it over the years for a lot of purchases--HDTV, stereos, speakers, tires, guitars, DVD players, you name it. Early on I used to search for that perfect Holy Grail of products and found it doesn't exist. One time I bought and tested five DVD players for my HDTV within a span of a few days before determining what was best for me. My wife thought I was nuts (I probably am) but I got tired of reading reviews and forums and just tried the contenders out for myself.

E ([H] newb, old-time computer guy)

[m0unds]

no... by cs i mean cs 1.6 css is source. I mean normal counter strikeLook here (http://widescreengamingforum.com/)

they have a list of fixes/hacks etc to either fix or try to fix display issues related to games and widescreen displays.

[noobtech]

There is an option under video for widescreen for CS 1.6 and CSS.

[kevp]

I registered and stopped lurking just for this thread. I just got this monitor. So far so good. I just wanted to comment on the fixed aspect ratio problem that some were having earlier.

I have no problem centering my games at different resolutions or using the fixed aspect ratio. I just use the latest nvidia drivers and set it in there.

I'm using a Asus A8nDeluxe with a eVGA 7800GTX.

[d][g][tal]

Could you take some pics showing 4:3 games displayed on the monitor plzz?

[Jon/xpm]

Should i buy now or wait a few weeks?
I hate to buy the monitor now and then bam... goes down 50 bucks in like a week
Jon

[igl00jx]

With technology, you either buy it now and enjoy it, or wait and pay for it at a lower price. So, in essence, you're paying for the time you have with the product. Anyways, I say buy it now! :D

[Bruce]

Should i buy now or wait a few weeks?
I hate to buy the monitor now and then bam... goes down 50 bucks in like a week
Jon
You should have bought it like a week ago. It was only $300 AR at J&R. :p

Buy.com still has it for $340 shipped. I got it a few weeks ago from them for $375. The day I got it they dropped their price $35. That kinda pissed me off, but it's definitely worth even what I paid for it.

Buy it now!

[noobtech]

Even if this monitor cost $450, I would say buy it...

[kevp]

[g][tal']Could you take some pics showing 4:3 games displayed on the monitor plzz?

Ya, I'm at work right now, but I'll try to update this post with pics later tonight. I have had a little more time with the monitor since, and I am definately having zero problems with centering a non-native rez or fixed aspect scaling. Everything works the way it's supposed to.

UPDATE

Here are some pics of the screen in operation (sorry for quality):
normal
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0268.jpg
1024x768 scaled
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0270.jpg
1024x768 centered
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0269.jpg
HL2 Normal
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0271.jpg
HL2 1024x768 scaled
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0275.jpg
HL2 1024x768 centered
http://kevp.shackspace.com/monitor%20pics/IMG_0278.jpg

[wraieghaeien]

Cant wait, I got one showin up from the FedEx guy tmorra!



http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/133.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&id=133)

[Mh0user]

those pictures made me orgasm :)

i was wondering if anyone has everquest 2? hows does it look on this moniter? pictures?

<3

[Varmint]

I went back to Compusa, and the 2025 is using VGA, so that explains why i wasn't that impressed with the text quality, right?

But it still has that hazy glare coating on it that I don't like.

I saw a $500 Sony 19" and didn't like that at all.

Does anyone know if the 2025wm's slight haze (like the screen is dirty) is caused by the VGA connection? Does DVI make a big difference?

Stupid Compusa, why can't they just use DVI? Even Circuit City sets up DVI, but they don't have this model in stock.

[kevp]

The haze you see is the anti-glare coating that Viewsonic decided to use on this monitor. It's totally personal preference. Some like the glossy coatings that glare like crazy, and others like the anti-glare coatings.

I personally don't mind the coating, it's invisible to me. The images are razor sharp, the only thing I notice is the colors are diminished a fractional amount.

[Coldtronius]

Does anyone know if the 2025wm's slight haze (like the screen is dirty) is caused by the VGA connection? Does DVI make a big difference?

Stupid Compusa, why can't they just use DVI? Even Circuit City sets up DVI, but they don't have this model in stock.

The hazed is caused by the antiglare coating on the panel. Nothing you can do about it.

[Spiff1333]

Those pictures are very encouraging in that it shows ratio scaling working properly.

In response to the CompUSA visit they have this monitor hooked up in the worse possible way.

1) Computer has a integrated Intel video card that can't even run the native resolution.
2) Is hooked up to ~10 displays using VGA dividers so...
a) It's an analog signal so the quality decreases with every split
b) Resoultion is set to 1024x768 for the 15in LCD which is also hooked up

n00bs

[Spiff1333]

Does anyone know if a Klipsch Promedia Ultra center speaker can fit in the gap under the screen.

Thanks.

[elvn]

It won't fit under the bezel completely, but it fits just fine on the foot of the stand with the tapered end of the speaker tucked under the bezel a few inches

[d][g][tal]

omg those pics look sweet, thanks a lot kevp for posting them!!! finally I think I'm getting this baby for sure! I see you've got a 7800GTX, hope it will work the same on my 7900GT =) thnx again!

[wheels2040]

[g][tal']omg those pics look sweet, thanks a lot kevp for posting them!!! finally I think I'm getting this baby for sure! I see you've got a 7800GTX, hope it will work the same on my 7900GT =) thnx again!

I hate to tell you, but it wont work the same on your 7900GT. The 7900GT auto scales to the native resolution of 1680x1050. The options in the driver to turn it off do not work. So if your game only supports 1280x1024 for example, it will be stretched to fit 1680x1050. Hopefully something will be done to fix it soon. Most new games support the widescreen resolution, so it isnt such a big deal.

[Lord Rahl]

So...does anybody have pics of this monitor with the 360? I would really like to see some because I am thinking about buying it next weekend for graduation, and the only place I can buy it from is Circuit City. So, if I don't like how the 360 looks, and I wanted to return the monitor, I would have to pay a restocking fee :(

[Cannydog]

Lord Rahl don't buy this for use with the Xbox 360. If you do a search of this thread you will find that something about the 360 gives you washed out colors on this monitor. Or so I've heard, as I don't own an Xbox 360 but do own one of these monitors.

I just want to figure out a way to get a second one... :p

Oh and the 7900GT might work at other widescreen (16:10) resolutions. You just have to set them up and test them out to make sure your video card does them properly. I personally have to run Oblivion at 1280x800, because my system just doesn't have the horsepower to run it at full rez.

[m0unds]

Those pictures are very encouraging in that it shows ratio scaling working properly.

In response to the CompUSA visit they have this monitor hooked up in the worse possible way.

1) Computer has a integrated Intel video card that can't even run the native resolution.
2) Is hooked up to ~10 displays using VGA dividers so...
a) It's an analog signal so the quality decreases with every split
b) Resoultion is set to 1024x768 for the 15in LCD which is also hooked up

n00bsbut doesn't it make you feel better that the displays "work"?

i asked someone @ compusa (compoosa) why they ran the displays in that manner, aside from it being easy to setup a bunch off one machine, and the employee told me because they wanted to show their customers that the displays worked.

...riight.

[Lord Rahl]

Lord Rahl don't buy this for use with the Xbox 360. If you do a search of this thread you will find that something about the 360 gives you washed out colors on this monitor. Or so I've heard, as I don't own an Xbox 360 but do own one of these monitors.

I just want to figure out a way to get a second one... :p

Oh and the 7900GT might work at other widescreen (16:10) resolutions. You just have to set them up and test them out to make sure your video card does them properly. I personally have to run Oblivion at 1280x800, because my system just doesn't have the horsepower to run it at full rez.


Yeah I know that the VGA cables wash the color out. I just want to see pics to see how washed out it is. If it isn't worse than the CRT I have now, then its fine, and I will just buy that converter. There is a converter that allows you to turn your vga input into a component input or something. Someone else in here posted and said it made the colors vibrant again :)

I would just like to see how it looks for myself ;)

[jayrod]

ive been playing with mine for a little bit now and i do enjoy it. there is a slight backlight bleed in all dark but otherwise the color is great.

nvm to the part i wrote here. im a tard.

[JohnleMVP]

Does this monitor have aspect modes? 1:1, Aspect, fill, etc?

[animasaki]

Well, I finally recieved mine, and while I don't have much more to add for info (though I'd be happy to field questions, to the best of my ability), I do want to make this known:

I love it.

After all of the mixed reviews this thing has been getting here, I'm FLOORED by how beautiful it is. I've viewed a lot of different LCDs, been disappointed to the point of nearly abandoning them completely. In addition, I have a still-excellent (it's now my second monitor in my dual setup) Samsung 19" SyncMaster 997MB CRT to compare it to, and the Viewsonic's really better than anything I've seen. The clarity, brightness, colors, and near-complete lack of motion blur is pretty danged surprising given how much whining(?) I've been reading here. I'm extremely picky about my monitors (heavy gamer, and full-time website/graphics student), and was ready to send this thing packing back to NewEgg if it didn't perform, but there's certainly no need for that now.

Anyway, enough of my gushing. I've gotta get to sleep. I just wanted to let everyone know that there's one very happy new VX2025wm owner out there, and he wishes that he had the money for another! :)

Oh, and I do have a small two or so pixel 'tear' in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm not entirely sure what that's all about, but it's so minimal, I can't find it unless it's a bright screen AND I'm looking for it. Just goes to show you how much real estate this thing has. While this is more of a compliment for all widescreen LCDs in general, I have to say, going from a 19" CRT to a 20" widescreen LCD is a HUGE size difference. I can't wait to try some HTML coding on this baby.

[Varmint]

Those pictures are very encouraging in that it shows ratio scaling working properly.

In response to the CompUSA visit they have this monitor hooked up in the worse possible way.

1) Computer has a integrated Intel video card that can't even run the native resolution.
2) Is hooked up to ~10 displays using VGA dividers so...
a) It's an analog signal so the quality decreases with every split
b) Resoultion is set to 1024x768 for the 15in LCD which is also hooked up

n00bs

The local one has the 2025wm hooked up to just one PC, via VGA, and it looks good, but I saw the 19" wide Viewsonic at CC via DVI, and that one had sharper text and no haze, so I was wondering if it's the VGA connection.

[overdrive]

I've just received my vx2025. It goes without saying that the text is much clearer with DVI as opposed to analog. The text clarity is very good with DVI.

The frosted coating, when I compare it to my IBM laptop, is making me think whether I should return it. It's kind of sparkly. I feel that my eyes are more comfortable looking at the laptop.

There are no dead pixels. The thing looks good too. I'm still deliberating.

[LawGiver]

Nice. Could you post some in-game pics of 1280x720 res, both centered and stretched?

[Varmint]

I've just received my vx2025. It goes without saying that the text is much clearer with DVI as opposed to analog. The text clarity is very good with DVI.


Did you do a direct comparison, connecting with first VGA then DVI?

I'm spoiled by the clear text on my Sony CRT, it's hard to pull the trigger on a wide LCD.

[sparkie13]

I picked the VX2025wm up the other night and as impressive as it is, I just can't get past the scaling issues it has for non-widescreen resolutions. Seems there is just no fix for us ATi owners to get this to display in a 5:4 or 4:3 ratio without stretching. I have 10 days left to figure out how to get this to work before the return policy expires.
Seems that most nVidia users are able to obtain to run this with a fixed pixel aspect ratio and are happy for the most part.
So has anyone with an ATi card gotten this to run without stretching for a non-widescreen game?

I started another post for people to post possible fixes for this issue here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1029453012#post1029453012

[wheels2040]

Lord Rahl don't buy this for use with the Xbox 360. If you do a search of this thread you will find that something about the 360 gives you washed out colors on this monitor. Or so I've heard, as I don't own an Xbox 360 but do own one of these monitors.

I just want to figure out a way to get a second one... :p

Oh and the 7900GT might work at other widescreen (16:10) resolutions. You just have to set them up and test them out to make sure your video card does them properly. I personally have to run Oblivion at 1280x800, because my system just doesn't have the horsepower to run it at full rez.

I have not seen one 7900gt owner on here that has been able to run it at anything other than native resolution without it scaling to fit the entire screen. If you select anything other than the default in the control panel, you get a Signal Out Of Range message on the display.

[samduhman]

It due to the panels viewing angle that causes the X's in the corner. I found this on mine as well and if you shift your head left or right, it mostly disappears. Its not a panel flaw or backlight bleeding, its just traits of the LCD itself. Theres nothing you can do about sans returning the unit for a different model if it bothers you that much.

This is odd as hell :confused: The first week I had this lcd it was upstairs on the kitchen table. While playing Quake 4 I didn't notice this viewing angle affect. I moved my pc downstairs and loaded the last lvl (very dark lvl) I had been playing and the glare/washed effect/whateveryouwanttocallit is so blantantly irritating I thought something had went wrong with the lcd. The lighting isn't that different. If anything it was brighter upstairs. Im bummed out now. I really like this lcd and today is my last day to decide whether to keep it or not and I don't to give it up :( . Any ideas about what would have made the difference?

[joe1001]

I've just received my vx2025. It goes without saying that the text is much clearer with DVI as opposed to analog. The text clarity is very good with DVI.

The frosted coating, when I compare it to my IBM laptop, is making me think whether I should return it. It's kind of sparkly. I feel that my eyes are more comfortable looking at the laptop.

There are no dead pixels. The thing looks good too. I'm still deliberating.

Yeh i had this monitor for a week but the glaze effect done my head in, you see it clearly on bright areas on the screen and can make reading text uncomfortable.So i returned it for the necd20wgx2 and what a difference, perfectly smooth brilliantly bright screen with superb colours, no glaze effect at all due to the gloss screen,compared to the viewsonic the nec would be the better choice by far if a little more expensive, but you pays for what you get.

[dR.Jester]

Ordering one tomrrow from J&R.

:)

[elvn]

I agree about the text, and wrote several complaints earlier in this thread. However I've found that if you use windows default font sizes with cleartype fonts, and cleartype font tuner its not too bad. The anti-glare screen also seems more subdued with good room lighting. So use an anti-glare screen in the light, a glare type screen in the dark I guess :cool:

The frost glare on text (and flat fields of hi detail photos -- skies, skin etc) almost made me return this monitor. For $350 I can live with it for now though. Its not bad if the fonts are large enough, the brightness and contrast adjusted, and the addition of adequate room lighting. I can also say after using this monitor awhile, the distance and angle you are viewing it from has a huge effect on the font readability vs. the glare. The room lighting angle adds into this equation too I think, so it might be all three factors. It seems alot better in a bright room with soft overhead lighting vs. a dark corner with perhaps a desk lamp for example.

I was hoping to be able to use small fonts without problems but I've decided live with the regular font size. I also found a cleartype font-like addon for World Of Warcraft which helped me with font readability in that game.

[Varmint]

Yeh i had this monitor for a week but the glaze effect done my head in, you see it clearly on bright areas on the screen and can make reading text uncomfortable.So i returned it for the necd20wgx2 and what a difference, perfectly smooth brilliantly bright screen with superb colours, no glaze effect at all due to the gloss screen,compared to the viewsonic the nec would be the better choice by far if a little more expensive, but you pays for what you get.

So the text looks better on the NEC? Since my PC is in a fairly dark room, I should probably get the NEC.

[joe1001]

So the text looks better on the NEC? Since my PC is in a fairly dark room, I should probably get the NEC.
Mate,nec all the way, you will not regret it, side by side with the viewsonic the nec would be your first choice i guarantee it.Have full confidence in your purchase.

[kevp]

How does one go about calibrating the color to get it as accurate as possible without buying an actual spyder or calibrator?

Can someone explain to me the basics of color profiles and whatnot? I have downloaded the Microsoft powertoy applet for coloring, but it apparently just loads or manages the profiles... How do I know which profile to use, and such?

HALP!

[Bruce]

Mate,nec all the way, you will not regret it, side by side with the viewsonic the nec would be your first choice i guarantee it.Have full confidence in your purchase.
Well for more than twice the cost of the Viewsonic I'd hope it looks better.

[joe1001]

Well for more than twice the cost of the Viewsonic I'd hope it looks better.
I live in the uk and when i purchased the viewsonic it cost me £330 after returning it i got the nec for £430, so at least for me it's not twice the price. I know the us version the nec20wmgx2 comes with extras that boosts the price up a bit, but shop around and you can find real good deals, if you can live without the extras like the tv tuner and speaker, look around for the nec20wgx2 it will be a hell of a lot cheaper.

[MrGuvernment]

Can some folks help me out here? My monitor arrived yesterday, but the backlight bleeding is kinda annoying. I'm trying to figure out if I can get a better panel or not if I get a replacement...

Here's some pics, dark room with black background:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8771/img0074large2ge.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0075large8wl.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0075large8wl.jpg


Someone fixed their dell backlight bleeding by taking apart the LCD and putting a line of black electrical tape around the edge of the lcd and it fixed it - but i dont recall where that guide was.

[Bruce]

I live in the uk and when i purchased the viewsonic it cost me £330 after returning it i got the nec for £430, so at least for me it's not twice the price. I know the us version the nec20wmgx2 comes with extras that boosts the price up a bit, but shop around and you can find real good deals, if you can live without the extras like the tv tuner and speaker, look around for the nec20wgx2 it will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
Ouch. £330 is ~ $624. You can get the Viewsonic here for $340 (£180). The NEC 20WMGX2 is $650 (£344).

I'm more than happy with my Viewsonic though. :)

[MrGuvernment]

i don't think there are bad dvi batches, it's it's just something additional that may need to be done.

I think it is probably just people not turning the monitor to DVI :D :D :D

[MrGuvernment]

march 06.

http://imageserver4.textamerica.com/user.images.x/2/IMG_480002/_0409/T520060409150543707.jpg

What mounts are those you bought and where?

[overdrive]

Did you do a direct comparison, connecting with first VGA then DVI?

I'm spoiled by the clear text on my Sony CRT, it's hard to pull the trigger on a wide LCD.

Yeah, I simply flipped the switch to change the input back and forth from analogue to dvi. On the dvi you can actually see the pixels, such as on diagonal lines like the letter 'v'. The letters are thinner in dvi. I think it causes some eyestrain in analogue.

I've decided I'm going to return the viewsonic. I may either buy the nec or wait for a new revision of the 2007.

Apart from banding issues, anyone got any opinion on the dell vs nec?

[MrGuvernment]

Okay, i bit the bullet, i bought one!!


now lets hope i have no dead pixels cause it is coming all the way to costa rica :D

[RogerD]

Hi I just got this monitor the other day. It looks great, and apparently there are no dead pixels. This is my first LCD monitor, and it would have been my first time to try out the DVI output of my video card.

My video card is a
Connect3D ATI Radeon X700 PRO 128MB on PCI Express.
My motherboard is an EPOX 9NPA with Athlon64 3000 processor.

1.) When the monitor is connected via VGA, it works fine. The resolution is set at 1680x1050.
2.) When the monitor is connected via DVI, it reports "No Signal".
3.) Even the POST screen on bootup is not displayed at bootup when the display is connected via DVI only. (Is this even normal? Are there cases when this happens but the DVI output displays when the OS starts to load?)
4.) When I connected the display's VGA input to the video card's DVI output through a DVI-D-Sub connector, it works fine. ---- (Does this mean that my video card's DVI output is OK, even if it was just used to output an analog signal?)

Now, I don't know which one between the display's DVI input or my video card's DVI output is faulty. But I've been reading a few posts complaining about the DVI input of this monitor.

I bought this display from Buy.com, and I might have to return it if it turns out that the DVI input is faulty.

Any help would be appreciated.


I got my VX2025 today and have the same issue with the DVI. I called their customer support to ask about the cable because I thought I had seen someone mention problems about it, and the fact that the DVI is outputting to DSUB with the adapter. And I have tried all the powering on and off options on both DVI's on my 7800GT.
The customer service girl was very eager to help, very short call time. She said that the issue was that they are shipping cables that are DVI-D and alot of cards are DVI-I (or visa-versa I can't remember). Does this make sense? - the cable they sent fit the port on both ends, I thought that the plugs were a different configuration. Anyhow she said she would put in an order to send me the correct cable, and I would get an email confirming, which I am still waiting for. I hope the DVI works and makes things better - because at this point I would not recommend this monitor for anyone that does a lot of photoshop work.

Got this from Newegg - one pixel stuck on red - way up in the left corner so not an issue for me.

[abeflow]

will this monitor work with a 9800 pro will there be a problem with dvi?

[noobtech]

will this monitor work with a 9800 pro will there be a problem with dvi?

Mine works with an FX5500, but I can only use with a VGA. The DVI doesn't support up to 1680X1050.

[KompressorV12]

I got my VX2025 today and have the same issue with the DVI. I called their customer support to ask about the cable because I thought I had seen someone mention problems about it, and the fact that the DVI is outputting to DSUB with the adapter. And I have tried all the powering on and off options on both DVI's on my 7800GT.
The customer service girl was very eager to help, very short call time. She said that the issue was that they are shipping cables that are DVI-D and alot of cards are DVI-I (or visa-versa I can't remember). Does this make sense? - the cable they sent fit the port on both ends, I thought that the plugs were a different configuration. Anyhow she said she would put in an order to send me the correct cable, and I would get an email confirming, which I am still waiting for. I hope the DVI works and makes things better - because at this point I would not recommend this monitor for anyone that does a lot of photoshop work.

Got this from Newegg - one pixel stuck on red - way up in the left corner so not an issue for me.

I have a 7900GT which is DVI-I am I going to have problems, I am picking this monitor up tomorrow, anyone with a 7900GT with this monitor have any responses, there is no way I am using VGA

[noobtech]

I used it with 7900 whether it was SLi or single card.... No issues for me.

[sickwookie]

I just got this monitor, and all I can say is SWEET. I was using an old 17" crt not even flat screen so it was a huge jump in image quality. I am using it with an x800 128MB, and it runs perfectly at native res. I even ran city of villians at full resolution with no slowdowns in solo missions. I may have to turn down some options though to run in bigger groups, but I am excited it works at all. I had no issue with the dvi port like others have mentioned so it may be isolated to 7x00.

[SynVisions]

Has anyone found a surefire way to overcome that bug where attempting to use the display adapter scaling and such with the 7800GT or similar cards causes the sync out of range?

[cybertron]

will this monitor work with a 9800 pro will there be a problem with dvi?

I have the 9800 pro and i am loving the DVI connection. However, I have two of these monitors and the VGA connection makes the screen do some weird stuff. like the text looks like its rolling or something. Hard to explain.

[Lawdog]

will this monitor work with a 9800 pro will there be a problem with dvi?

It works fine with mine on DVI. I run desktop native 1680 x 1050, UT2K4 at native, but have HL2 and BF2 running at lesser 16:10 resolutions. It is not enough vid card to run the newer games at that resolution, but for everything else it does the job fine. I'm looking to upgrade my card soon to something more current. But, in the AGP world, the choices are few right now. There is talk of a 7600GS AGP solution coming out in the summer that might be a little faster than the 6800GS (hard to find these anymore) but not as fast as the 7800GS.

[gryfon]

@kevp,
I'd like to ask you regarding how you make black bars with nvidia control panel. Could you check the information (from the viewsonic OSD) about the resolution that is being used when you play using 4:3 resolution while maintaining aspect ratio? Yes i know you set something like 1024x768 (or other 4:3 resolution) on the game, but could you please check the viewsonic osd ?

also, could you please change the desktop resolution to 4:3 ratio like 1024x768 and see if the black bars still exist like in the game (it should be imo)?

thx

[LordBritish]

My DVI has totally stopped working :confused: :(

I was putting together a new computer and I moved the DVI cable from one computer to another.

Well the second computer shows nothing on the monitor - well, perhaps I messed up something on the new computer build - not the first time.

So I moved the cable back to the orignal working computer - again nothing on the monitor.
Hmmm, something strange here.

Well, I still can't get it to work.

I doubt simply moving the DVI cable from one computer to another would break the cable or the monitor.

I did remember meddling around with the source option on the monitor (from DVI to D-Sub) but I didn't remember actually changing it. Perhpas it's on the wrong source? Both my computers use DVI so may be the monitor has been switced to D-Sub mode ? If that's the case, how do I switch it back since I can't even bring up a menu on the monitor now. :(

Or may be it's just totally broken :(

I did recall that some people were having some issues getting DVI to work - there was some "trick" to get it working. May be that's my problem.

[gryfon]

My DVI has totally stopped working :confused: :(

I was putting together a new computer and I moved the DVI cable from one computer to another.

Well the second computer shows nothing on the monitor - well, perhaps I messed up something on the new computer build - not the first time.

So I moved the cable back to the orignal working computer - again nothing on the monitor.
Hmmm, something strange here.

Well, I still can't get it to work.

I doubt simply moving the DVI cable from one computer to another would break the cable or the monitor.

I did remember meddling around with the source option on the monitor (from DVI to D-Sub) but I didn't remember actually changing it. Perhpas it's on the wrong source? Both my computers use DVI so may be the monitor has been switced to D-Sub mode ? If that's the case, how do I switch it back since I can't even bring up a menu on the monitor now. :(

Or may be it's just totally broken :(

I did recall that some people were having some issues getting DVI to work - there was some "trick" to get it working. May be that's my problem.

try this http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1040780

[overdrive]

I hope this doesn't come accross as patronising, but maybe try

PUSHING THE NUMBER 2 button to change to digital?

[m0unds]

I hope this doesn't come accross as patronising, but maybe try

PUSHING THE NUMBER 2 button to change to digital?


it would come off less patronising if you didn't CAPITALIZE THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE.

I saw another thread where there are some problems with nvidia cards setting the display to a permanent "power save" mode, whereby it won't sync at all even during BIOS posting. There's a utility to reset it--although, if it's not working from the beginning, i'm disinclined to think that's the issue unfortunately :/

[LordBritish]

I hope this doesn't come accross as patronising, but maybe try

PUSHING THE NUMBER 2 button to change to digital?

I tried that and I tried pushing number 1 and I tried pushing the 2 buttons in beween and I tried combinations of buttons - no go. It's not working :confused:

I'm trying to find this DVI recovery tool posted previously. The dude's website that hosts the tool is down :(

Can somebody post a link to the bootable CD version - thanks.

I'm beginning to think it's the DVI power save problem. I think plugging the DVI cable into the second computer hosed up my monitor.

I did plug an older CRT monitor that uses D-Sub into both my computers and both showed up proberly with no problems.

HELP !!

[m0unds]

I tried that and I tried pushing number 1 and I tried pushing the 2 buttons in beween and I tried combinations of buttons - no go. It's not working :confused:

I'm trying to find this DVI recovery tool posted previously. The dude's website that hosts the tool is down :(

Can somebody post a link to the bootable CD version - thanks.

I'm beginning to think it's the DVI power save problem. I think plugging the DVI cable into the second computer hosed up my monitor.

I did plug an older CRT monitor that uses D-Sub into both my computers and both showed up proberly with no problems.

HELP !!

http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/bb/sutra869611.html

this is the link referred to by the other thread (dvi issues thread)

[LordBritish]

http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/bb/sutra869611.html

this is the link referred to by the other thread (dvi issues thread)

I found this: http://nick.dicknogs.net/DVI_Recover.zip

Is this the correct DVI recover tool or is it some malicious program that will wipe out my hard disk?

Can somebody take a look at that download and let me know if that is the DVI recover tool.

DOS Boot up programs make me nervous - it can wipe out your whole harddisk if somebody really wanted to do so.

[ScYcS]

I found this: http://nick.dicknogs.net/DVI_Recover.zip

Is this the correct DVI recover tool or is it some malicious program that will wipe out my hard disk?

Can somebody take a look at that download and let me know if that is the DVI recover tool.

DOS Boot up programs make me nervous - it can wipe out your whole harddisk if somebody really wanted to do so.


And who garantuees you that the person who says that it's the program is not a liar and it still is a program using fdisk on your hdd? ;)

[LordBritish]

And who garantuees you that the person who says that it's the program is not a liar and it still is a program using fdisk on your hdd? ;)

I dont know but I would feel more comfortable if somebody did say that the download was genuine and not malicious.

The zip file did contain a ISO file and a floppy executable - I presume to write to a floppy. I did burn the ISO file to a CD and it contained 6 files.

* autoexec.bat
* bootcat.bin
* bootimg.bin
* ddcw.exe
* port1.txt
* port2.txt

It seem legit to me but it may not be. Nortan Antivirus didn't raise any flags.

Contents of autoexec.bat are:
ddcw -m 0 -p
ddcw -m 1 -p

If this is legit, I assume I attach the DVI cable to my video card and bootup and it'll fix itself - right?

EDIT: I finally did download it from the official site http://www.jeffgeiger.com/Stuff/DVI_Recover.htm

The DVI_Recover.zip file I obtained from the other URL is identical to the one downloaded at the official site so in other words, it is legit.

[MrGuvernment]

Glad i dont own an NVIDIA card.

for now my laptop. mobile 9700 has DVI port, hope it works on there untuk my desktop arrives.

[Jon/xpm]

Just made a purchase at newegg!!!!... Now i have to wait for shipping :mad:

Updated for thous who plan on buying this monitor... The price will decrease in about a week... Everytime i buy something, it always goes down within a week :D

[MrGuvernment]

Just made a purchase at newegg!!!!... Now i have to wait for shipping :mad:

Updated for thous who plan on buying this monitor... The price will decrease in about a week... Everytime i buy something, it always goes down within a week :D


ahaha lower the $344 - i wish! - i mean like considerably....

[Varmint]

Just made a purchase at newegg!!!!... Now i have to wait for shipping :mad:

Updated for thous who plan on buying this monitor... The price will decrease in about a week... Everytime i buy something, it always goes down within a week :D

The NEC is dropping fast too - now $660 shipped from a reputable store (PC Nation). Newegg had it for like $675 shipped for a few hours before they sold out. :)

[cybertron]

What mounts are those you bought and where?


I was about to ask the same question, but I found this post...

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1029281969&postcount=947

It says Neo-Flex by Ergotron.

[bruins004]

I dont know why, but I heard a few months ago that LCDs are going to be dropping a lot over this spring and summer. I wonder why though? Just letting you all know. That is why I am going to hold out for a little while.

[LordBritish]

I'll be trying out this DVI recovery tool this evening - say a prayer for me :(

[m0unds]

good luck dude.

I just pulled the trigger on one of these monitors to replace a Samsung SyncMaster 955DF

[RogerD]

I'll be trying out this DVI recovery tool this evening - say a prayer for me :(

Tried a new DVI-D cable - that didn't work. Recovery tool didn't work. Looks like its the friggin RMA process for me.

[view]

After working a week where when I would restart my computer it would forget about the resolution setting of the monitor, all of a sudden it can't get the DDC information from the monitor, nor has the ability to go to 1680x1050 (only 1600x1200). It's on a thinkpad T40. Does anyone have any idea why? I uninstalled and reinstalled all the latest drivers. I'm using the VGA connector (don't have DVI out).
Thanks.

[LordBritish]

w00t - The DVI Recover tool worked !!

My DVI is back in order !!!

I'm so happy !!!!

:p :D

Now who's to blame for this mess ?!!!

I aged 5 years in the last few days coz of this.

[gfdoto]

I noticed that by default, 1280x800 is not a selectable resolution when I go to display properties. Why is that? I tried installing the drivers as well and still the only widescreen resolution I could select was 1680x1050. I have an Nvidia Geforce 6800 OC, and in the nvidia drivers I am able to add a custom resolution and manually enter 1280x800, but it bothers me that it didn't show up on its own. Anybody have an explanation for this? Thanks for the help.

[m0unds]

w00t - The DVI Recover tool worked !!

My DVI is back in order !!!

I'm so happy !!!!

:p :D

Now who's to blame for this mess ?!!!

I aged 5 years in the last few days coz of this.

badass! glad that worked out for you

[Bruce]

I noticed that by default, 1280x800 is not a selectable resolution when I go to display properties. Why is that? I tried installing the drivers as well and still the only widescreen resolution I could select was 1680x1050. I have an Nvidia Geforce 6800 OC, and in the nvidia drivers I am able to add a custom resolution and manually enter 1280x800, but it bothers me that it didn't show up on its own. Anybody have an explanation for this? Thanks for the help.
I can't answer why, but I can tell you I'm in the same boat.

1680x1050 was the only 16:10 resoltuion listed, so I had to manually add 1440x900 and 1280x800. At least it's easy with nVidia's drivers... the same can't be said for ATi.

[LawGiver]

I can't answer why, but I can tell you I'm in the same boat.

1680x1050 was the only 16:10 resoltuion listed, so I had to manually add 1440x900 and 1280x800. At least it's easy with nVidia's drivers... the same can't be said for ATi.

sure it can. powerstrip.

[Varmint]

I dont know why, but I heard a few months ago that LCDs are going to be dropping a lot over this spring and summer. I wonder why though? Just letting you all know. That is why I am going to hold out for a little while.

Probably means yields are up or new models are coming out. Or both. The NEC is dropping like a stone, maybe cause (1) the Viewsonic is so cheap now and nearly equal overall, and (2) when it shows up at BestBuy, Compusa etc it'll drive prices down, so vendors are offloading them.

[Bruce]

sure it can. powerstrip.I meant without any extra programs. :p

[boardsportsrule]

just got my vx2025wm... i went from a 17" CRT, to this and DAMNNNNNNNN im stoked :) thanks guys, great thread to convince me right here...

[Buzz76]

Great thread :)

Thinkin of either this Viewsonic or the NEC one... here in norway the NEC is roughly 33% more expensive.
A bit hard to decide though... some like the NEC better and some the Viewsonic :confused:

[ScYcS]

Great thread :)

Thinkin of either this Viewsonic or the NEC one... here in norway the NEC is roughly 33% more expensive.
A bit hard to decide though... some like the NEC better and some the Viewsonic :confused:

By any means, if you can afford it, get the NEC. It's a whole class higher than the Viewsonic.

[[CaM]Spoon]

For the money this is really the best 21" widescreen monitor out there.
But to be honest... Ihad mine for a week and after thinking over. I rather return it and hook my computer to my 46" inch HDTV. At least i save 500 dollers and get to play on huge screen and dont even have to spend crazy money on hardware becuase HDTV doesnt go as high in resalution..... At least this will extend the life of my computer for another 2 years then ill upgrade again and if monitors are holograms then im all in!. LOL

Anyone want logitech z5300 speakers? Great 5.1 speakers : )

Enjoy the monitor guys its great.

[MrGuvernment]

dam you all who got it already! i cant wait a week!! i want it nowwwwwwwwwwww

[SynVisions]

Has anyone found a surefire way to overcome that bug where attempting to use the display adapter scaling and such with the 7800GT or similar cards causes the sync out of range?

Can anyone help me with this...

[wheels2040]

Can anyone help me with this...

I havent seen a fix for this yet. We are all in the same boat right now.

[boardsportsrule]

mine can scale just fine, i can play CSS at 1680X1050, or 1024X768.i am running a 6600GT, using some modded 78.11 drivers. it displays black lines on the side, no out of range thing..

[LordBritish]

I had two video cards I used with the vx2025wm.

6800 Ultra - no problems with scaling - fixed aspect or centered.

But an evga 7900 GTX with the SAME monitor produced "Out of Range" with anything other than "Monitor Scaling" - go figure.

[Mh0user]

those pictures made me orgasm :)

i was wondering if anyone has everquest 2? hows does it look on this moniter? pictures?

<3

lol no one i guess

[Quasimodox]

Hi everyone, I have recently purchased a VX2025WM after reading the posts here. It is also my first LCD. I have a question hopefully someone can enlighten me.

Luckily, there is no dead pixel on my display, but when I play video and games, the color seems like it's 16 bit instead of 32 bit full color, I can see blocks of colors especaially at dark areas. I have double checked the color setting in my control panel is shown as 32 bit. Is it normal for this LCD panel?

The disply is hooked up via DVI with 7800GTX (Foreceware 84.21), Could my problem has to do with the graphic card or the firmware? or does it have to do DVI? or perhaps duel display? Any suggestion is appreciated, thank you.

[kidstechno]

I'm still trying to get around to taking some pictures of the Xbox 360 running on the VX2025wm. Using the Microsoft VGA HD cables, I put it at 1360x768 and you definately have to sit back a couple feet for it to really look good. Give me some time, I keep forgetting :(

[m0unds]

But an evga 7900 GTX with the SAME monitor produced "Out of Range" with anything other than "Monitor Scaling" - go figure.

that's weird-- i've been hearing a lot about LCD's experiencing this trouble with the 7x00 nv cards via DVI. I hope they get it fixed soon, too many users have those cards driving high-end LCD's to go by unnoticed.

[kidstechno]

Xbox 360 connected via the MS Xbox 360 VGA HD cables at 1360x768.
Pictures taken with Panasonic DMC-L50

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000753.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000752.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000747.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000746.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000742.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000740.jpg

[Mh0user]

jack black ftw!

nice 360 screens what would really make this moniter the shit is if it had a tv tuner i know the NEC has one

[kidstechno]

Yes, Jack Black is my hero. Had to make that my 360 background :D

[Mh0user]

anyone play guildwars on this moniter yet...that game is beautiful at 1600x1200

:)

[noobtech]

anyone play guildwars on this moniter yet...that game is beautiful at 1600x1200

:)

It's even Better at 1680X1050.. I think the best it's ever been was on a FW900. :eek:

[Shark-MegaByte]

I visited the Dallas Fry's today in search of a Viewsonic, because it seems well and consistently liked here and by Cnet. Turns out they sold their demo unit just as I walked up and asked. :rolleyes:

I gave them my info to contact me when they get them back in stock. Then I decided to see what else they could show me that might be good. I came home with a NEC MultiSync 90gx2.. lower native res but still looked great. It'll be coming on duty with the rest of my new system later this week, and I'll post my results here... if I'm not satisfied, it'll be returned in favor of the Viewsonic.

[animasaki]

anyone play guildwars on this moniter yet...that game is beautiful at 1600x1200

:)

I just got Factions yesterday, and fear not! As with everything I've seen on this beaut, it's gorgeous. I'm playing World of Warcraft and that right now, and I'm in heaven. Widescreen gives so much more viewing room, and clarity and colors keep surprising me compared to my Samsung CRT (which, I might add, is no slouch.)

Also, if you have an nVidia card, don't be afraid to add just a small bit of Digital Vibrance. In moderation (not enough to alter the colors!), it makes this thing all the better. :D

[Mh0user]

lol i'm debating on what gfx card to get to go with this panel. i have my eyes set on eVGA 7900 GTX but have been hearing about alot of problems. i want to run things on a fear level in WS format. someone told me about eVGA's 7900 GT KO SUPERCLOCKED performing quite well in widescreen gaming? is their any truth that or are these bugs on all 7900 series cards? lol sry im a bit of a eVGA whore :)

[Buzz76]

By any means, if you can afford it, get the NEC. It's a whole class higher than the Viewsonic.

Thanx i bet i will... can't settle for less now :rolleyes:

Haven't tried LCD too much myself when it comes to gaming... how bad does the graphics get if u don't play in native resolution with the NEC?

[dR.Jester]

lol i'm debating on what gfx card to get to go with this panel. i have my eyes set on eVGA 7900 GTX but have been hearing about alot of problems. i want to run things on a fear level in WS format. someone told me about eVGA's 7900 GT KO SUPERCLOCKED performing quite well in widescreen gaming? is their any truth that or are these bugs on all 7900 series cards? lol sry im a bit of a eVGA whore :)

Head over to the Video Cards section and visit the nVidia sub-forum. Lots of threads there with plenty of info.

Btw, Im currently using an eVGA 7900GTX acquired via Step-Up. It has been running great with the exception of a few minor glitches in Battlefield 2.

On another note, my VX2025WM arrives on Wednesday! :)

[m0unds]

if you get the sync out of range issue with no display on DVI, refer back to this thread for the DVI reset tool. it appears the 7x00 cards have some trouble with permanently setting DVI displays to permanent power saving mode. it doesn't happen to everyone, but it does happen.

[LordBritish]

This one is mine:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f152/LordBritish/monitor.jpg

[[CaM]Spoon]

LOL you put those guinness beers there to cover up those girly things?
Cute bear and cute keyboard! AHAHAH
and that videogame keyboard screams NERD!

sorry i had to.

[bruins004]

Just out of curiousity when is the price falling again for this? I figure the NEC will be soon to follow

[Hartlove]

Spoon']LOL you put those guinness beers there to cover up those girly things?
Cute bear and cute keyboard! AHAHAH
and that videogame keyboard screams NERD!

sorry i had to.That keyboard is an ergodex, not just for games...

I guess pointing that out makes me a nerd though...

[WarlordOne]

Xbox 360 connected via the MS Xbox 360 VGA HD cables at 1360x768.
Pictures taken with Panasonic DMC-L50

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000753.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000740.jpg

Are you able to run it at 1280x720 (or similar) resolution with black bars so you're not clipping the right side of the screen off?

I can't wait for that movie, Jack Black ROCKS!

[animasaki]

I'm pretty sure that posting on these forums makes you a nerd.

I'm not entirely sure where Mr. [CaM]Spoon is going with that. Why go to tech forums to make fun of people using tech? Seems a bit silly.

With that said, what's wrong with small white teddy bears!? :p

[RogerD]

In case anyone else is having issues with DVI this worked for me...

The problem was I could not get a DVI signal to the LCD though the DVI to DSUB was fine.

I figured out it wasn't the LCD that was the problem because I hooked it up to a 6800GT on my sons computer and it popped right on digital. Took it back to the 7800GT - No Signal

I hooked both the DSUB and the DVI up between the card and the monitor and with the latest Nvidia driver I went into the dual monitor settings and there was monitor 1 VX2025 analog and monitor 2 was VX2025 digital. Picked monitor 2 and poof it switched to digital. Removed the DSUB cable and its 100% digital now from post.

Until I did this no amount of powering up in any order or hitting button 2 or 1 or switching inputs from analog to digital on the monitor setup worked.

Maybe this will help someone.

Playing Far Cry all over again, damn beautiful on widescreen. I'm in love with this monitor now, though it took a couple of days to get used to that anit-glare glare.

[wheels2040]

Regarding the problem with the "out of range" message when trying to use aspect ratio settings on the 7900 series of cards. Is anyone using a Dual Link DVI Cable?

[LordBritish]

I have the "Out of Range" aspect ratio issue with my evga 7900 GTX.

I'm using the DVI cable that came with the monitor.

The other issue with the DVI failing has to do with a stupid power save feature bug - it's not the same problem. I think some people are confusing the two issues.

[wheels2040]

The DVI cable that comes with my eVGA 7900GT CO Superclock is a single link.

[LordBritish]

My evga 7900 GTX came with no DVI cable.

I'm using the DVI cable that came with my vx2025wm monitor.

I wasn't aware that any video card came with a DVI cable.

[wheels2040]

yeah, sorry. I meant with the monitor.

[LordBritish]

So you're implying that using a dual link DVI *might* solve our aspect ratio problems with the nvidia 7x00 serious cards?

What exactly is the difference between single and double link DVI cables.

[Coldtronius]

So you're implying that using a dual link DVI *might* solve our aspect ratio problems with the nvidia 7x00 serious cards?

What exactly is the difference between single and double link DVI cables.

Instead of the video signal being sent out via 1 DVI port, it is sent out through 2 DVI ports, allowing for higher resolution as 1920x1200 at 60hertz maxes out the bandwith of a single DVI cable, hence why the Dell 3007 needs dual DVI to work.

[I3eyond]

if speed for gaming is the biggest concern, is the vx922 or this monitor the way to go?

vx922 is a lot cheaper on newegg, too..

[Coldtronius]

if speed for gaming is the biggest concern, is the vx922 or this monitor the way to go?

vx922 is a lot cheaper on newegg, too..

If your absolutely pissy about ghosting, then yes, the VX922 has a faster response rate then then the 2025wm.

[Lord Rahl]

Hey Kidstechno, if you wouldn't mind, could you post some more pics of different games. I would like to see if they colors are as washed out as some people say on the 360 with VGA. Could you please post some from Oblivion and PGR3 if you have those. And, I know this is stupid, lol, but could you post some screens of the dark levels in halo 2...I play halo 2 as much as my 360 games so if it looks bad on halo 2, well than that's just not good :(

[RogerD]

So you're implying that using a dual link DVI *might* solve our aspect ratio problems with the nvidia 7x00 serious cards?

What exactly is the difference between single and double link DVI cables.



I found this on my search for solutions to my issues - its an excellent guide on DVI.


http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html

[elvn]

I wanted to post this reply yesterday but the forum was down a long time.

I had trouble with eyestrain on text beneath the frost anti-glare layer of the screen. Using default windows xp fonts and font sizes with cleartype turned on helped. I also used cleartype tuner. It still bothered my eyes. When I installed this same monitor at my mother's house I found that her screen was much easier to read. I at first attributed this soley to her room lighting vs the dark area my computer is in. I now realize that the default display parameters of our two very different video cards were much of the reason. I have a nvidia 6600 GT.

A few days ago I went into the nvidia driver panel to bump the vibrance up a notch, and came across the Image Sharpening slider bar. I hadn't really noticed it before. I bumped the sharpness up a bit and the text looked MUCH BETTER. It still blurry on some really tiny text that show up on a few menus, such as the main nView display settings menu where below it says "Make this the primary display" with a checkbox. The text there is very tiny and still looks "smudged". However all the other text at more common font sizes has improved greatly. My eyes can focus on nice sharp font edges now. I can't get over how much better it looks.

If I zero the ImageSharpening all text looks very blurry. Sliding too far to the right over sharpens. I moved it up until it was over sharp then backed it down until it was 'just right'.

Here is a screenshot of the Color Corection panel from the nvidia driver settings:

http://www.3dalchemist.com/images/nvidia6600_colorpanel.jpg

My monitor itself was set to Contrast 62 and Brightness 36 before I adjusted the driver panel to Contrast 91% , Brightness 100% , Gamma 0.88 . I could probably adjust the monitor control's contrast so the driver panel's wouldn't need to be below 100% but thats how I have it for now.

I'm really glad I stumbled on that setting. Before this I was considering returning it. Now I think this monitor is very good.

[FS Effects]

i just notice that on the top left of the windows login blue screen where you enter the password inorder to get it windows. theres a backlight leakage on top left, i dont know if that's how it is or not but when i got into windows and check with deadpixel buddy with the same blue screen or anyother screen color i couldn't find any leakage.

is this normal? i have a picture taken but dont know how to upload it.

[Brahmzy]

That's normal - it's the background not leakage.

[FS Effects]

are you sure? i have never notice the welcome screen like that on the top left.

[boardsportsrule]

That's normal - it's the background not leakage.
what he said^^^^^^

the little circle thing? thats normal :)

[dR.Jester]

Only one more day! Damn this wait is killing me! :p

[mtl_hed]

I GOT MINE TODAY!!!

Based on the comments in this thread and the wide screen gaming forum, I bit the bullet and bought one.

Hooked it up before I went to work(there now) and messed around with it a bit. Looks great. :eek:

Will post pictures and a "mini" review after I get home.
Still need to calibrate colors/brightness/contrast/etc.

[Mh0user]

saweeeet!

[FS Effects]

what he said^^^^^^

the little circle thing? thats normal :)


does your welcome screen have that circle thing on the top left too?

[m0unds]

yes. it's normal
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8251/whitelol3ek.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitelol3ek.jpg)

[dR.Jester]

I just got mine in, this thing is AWESOME. However when I change to 1680x1050, it says out of range? Possible that my DVI cable is to blame? Currently using a DVI-D cable I bought, about to try the factory supplied one.


*update*
Problem solved, switched over to the other DVI slot on my 7900.

[Eagle156]

yes. it's normal
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8251/whitelol3ek.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitelol3ek.jpg)
The line down the middle isn't, though :D

[blu3_scr33n]

heh, seems like everyone has this LCD. I ordered mine from the egg last night. Getting it as a graduation present so I can use it as a TV/Comp next year at Wentworth Tech. Best of all, it was only $350 and no shipping cost. :eek:

I'll post a video next week when I get my hands on it.

[Jon/xpm]

I just got mine today
I am not sure if i like it or not...
Can someone post or pm me your settings for your video card and the monitor

I have 7900 GTX if that helps
Jon

[DrDoug]

Well, the transaction is finally complete. I got my $100.00 rebate yesterday! I know the monitor is going for less now, but at the time the price was still good ($378.00). So I am happy with the deal.

After using this display for the last month and a half, my opinion stands. I like it, it works for us and I do not regret the purchase a bit. Video editing is great, games look & run good, and the screen is crisp and clear to use. I have not turned on ClearType either. I am running the same settings I had on my Sony CPD-G500 CRT (other than resolution) and it works for us. My wife loves the display, and she says her eyes can look at it for longer periods of time without feeling burned out than on the CRT.

It is a bit smaller than the 21" Sony, but I am running the ATI 9800XT 256Mb card, so this resolution and the performance I get is perfect for what I do.

[FS Effects]

yes. it's normal
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8251/whitelol3ek.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitelol3ek.jpg)


cool! thanks for the confirmation. i wonder why anyone would design something that stupid and looks so shitty. what a relief.

[Commander0Zero]

The below comment was posted by someone on the EVGA message board about the scaling issue with 7 series Nvidia cards has anyone tried this? I just ordered my display so I don't have it yet and couldn't give this fix a shot.


"I have the 7800GT CO and when I bought my Viewsonic 2025 I could only set it for monitor scaling. I changed my Nvidia display driver to the XtremeG 84.37v.2 available from TweaksRus.com and was then able to change to display adapter scaling."

[LordBritish]

The below comment was posted by someone on the EVGA message board about the scaling issue with 7 series Nvidia cards has anyone tried this? I just ordered my display so I don't have it yet and couldn't give this fix a shot.


"I have the 7800GT CO and when I bought my Viewsonic 2025 I could only set it for monitor scaling. I changed my Nvidia display driver to the XtremeG 84.37v.2 available from TweaksRus.com and was then able to change to display adapter scaling."

So the solution is to use a hacked driver from some foreign website - i don't think so
:rolleyes:

[MrGuvernment]

I should have 2025wm today, or tomorrow, i will be taking alot of hi res pics of it to hopefully get details of any good, or bad;s of this monitor (own a Canon 20D)

:D

i cant wait!

[wheels2040]

So the solution is to use a hacked driver from some foreign website - i don't think so
:rolleyes:

And why do you think this is a foreign website? Tweaks R US kinda like Toys R US. The domain registrant is in New Jersey.

[sceevey]

And why do you think this is a foreign website? Tweaks R US kinda like Toys R US. The domain registrant is in New Jersey.

I don't think he meant outside the country, just outside from Viewsonics site.

[bruins004]

Did this screen hit lower than $340 yet or is it going to take another couple of weeks?

[Bruce]

It was already <$300 at J&R a few weeks ago... guess you missed out on that. $340 is still a good price though.

[bruins004]

It was below $300 w/o shipping and tax. With that it woulda been over $340 for me. Plus I dont do rebates anymore (except with OCZ and the egg) since most are unreliable. Where is it cheapest these days bc I need a monitor for my new computer within 2 weeks. Thanks again.

[Bruce]

Buy.com is still the cheapest right now. $340 shipped with the $15 coupon for new customers.

If you can't use the coupon, Newegg and ZZF both have it for $345 shipped.

[Spiff1333]

I guess the deal I posted required a notebook or pc purchase on the invoice. Can't believe I didn't see that. Sorry.

[bruins004]

Nice find Spiff...It looks like I am going to have to hit this one since its doesnt look like it will be getting much lower than this anytime soon.

[m0unds]

I got mine. I like it so far, tiny bit of ghosting, no dead pixels. ATI drivers don't seem like they're going to appropriately scale the image.

[noobtech]

I don't know why, but all of a sudden with the newest drivers on a 5500 AGP using analog, it seems super small fonts and stuff.

[Apple]

The below comment was posted by someone on the EVGA message board about the scaling issue with 7 series Nvidia cards has anyone tried this? I just ordered my display so I don't have it yet and couldn't give this fix a shot.


"I have the 7800GT CO and when I bought my Viewsonic 2025 I could only set it for monitor scaling. I changed my Nvidia display driver to the XtremeG 84.37v.2 available from TweaksRus.com and was then able to change to display adapter scaling."

Mine should be arriving tomorrow, I'll be sure to try this out. I ordered it before I found this thread, and therefore before I there would be some problems with this monitor and my 7800GT. I've been kinda of sweating the purchase ever since, so this is really good news for me. I hope it works.

[okn]

I just bought this monitor today.
Overall it's good but why DVD's look too grainy ? Anyway to solve this problem ?
and this monitor really hurts my eyes....

[Spiff1333]

N/m

[elvn]

Look up my replies in this thread about the monitor bothering my eyes initially. I almost returned the monitor over it. I solved my problem though.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've since adjusted brightness, contrast, gamma so that the monitor isn't like looking into a lightbulb anymore. I turned on cleartype fonts and used the cleartype font tuner powertoy from MS. This helped but these adjustments by themselves were not enough.

The biggest difference to the quality of this monitor to me was discovering and increasing the image sharpening in the nvidia driver menu a few days ago. "Eureeka!" very sharp easy to read fonts now (except *extremely* small fonts appearing 'smudged' in some cases). Everything including images and icons, etc are incredibly crisp. Now that the sharpening has been adjusted my eyes are not bothered anymore and I consider this a very good monitor especially at the price.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


There is still a frost layer effect of the anti-glare coating which is evident on some solid fields of color (skies, skin, etc), but its not bad after you get used to it. The colors look great and I'm happy with the blacks on per-pixel resolutions.

DVD's stretched larger than their original rez, especially without using any upconverting software like FFDshow to increase the pixel density, will look slightly washed out the more they are stretched. You can use FFDshow to upconvert, and the FFDshow plugin as well as most dvd player applications allow you to add custom settings to your player so that you have different brightness, contrast, gamma etc. settings when you play dvd's (you might want them darker than your desktop's settings). The graininess on DVD's might be the monitor's anti-glare coating becoming more obvious when the dvd playback is stretched. If you sit back slightly during dvd playback you shouldn't notice it.

[MrGuvernment]

Got mikne today!! am dam happy with it

Right now running off my Insprion 9100 laptop DVI port, plugged it in - worked perfectly! using Omega 6.3 cat's for the 9700 mobile radeon 9700.

Game scale and center in the screen, didnt have to install any drivers for it!


i love this lcd! i can see a 2nd on in my future once my desktop arrives.

[abeflow]

newegg now has it for $334

[dR.Jester]

http://myweb.cableone.net/wdavis/lcd.jpg

:D

[okn]

I've got white marks on the screen..looks like a problem with the backlight.
At work i'm using Apple Cinema 23" and Philips 200w..there are no problems with those..forexample, in booting screen of winxp, on black, there are several white areas in the screen..is this normal ? if it is normal, can someone explain me why ?

[james111]

I've got white marks on the screen..looks like a problem with the backlight.
At work i'm using Apple Cinema 23" and Philips 200w..there are no problems with those..forexample, in booting screen of winxp, on black, there are several white areas in the screen..is this normal ? if it is normal, can someone explain me why ?
Can you take a pic?

[noobtech]

Dude where did you get that awsome desktop pic?

[MrGuvernment]

Quakecon - i assume thei web site


As for the White, this viewsonix does seem to have what "appears" as backlighting - but move your head left and right, up and down, and it changes, so it does not seem to really bea backlighting issue - but something else, since it is not a "fixed" bleeding like it is on dells.

i will take pics, once i get photoshop installed.

[GIGANTOID]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but a few retailers online and off have $50 rebates making it roughly $350. Watchout cause some palces are requiring you to buy a laptop or desktop but Tiger Direct and Micro Center don't.

Not too shabby.

[bruins004]

That is incorrect...On the rebate form it says you must purchase it with a system.

[ScYcS]

That is incorrect...On the rebate form it says you must purchase it with a system.


Why would anyone pay over $350 even with rebate when it's widely available for under $345 without rebate and with free shipping??????!?!?!?!

(the egg and zzf both have them for this price).

[GIGANTOID]

I was mistaken on Tiger Direct i had seen it at another online store but must have forgotten.

Links to the PDF rebates...
http://www.microcenter.com/rebates/rebate_show.phtml?id=24443

[Commander0Zero]

So the solution is to use a hacked driver from some foreign website - i don't think so
:rolleyes:

Just trying to throw as much info out there and help the many people that have the scaling problem with the nividia 7 series cards. I'm not claiming this to be the best solution but maybe it will help, you know add something positive to our community. That is what these forums are for aren't they? It would seem you have better information on this issue if so please share.

[blu3_scr33n]

Why would anyone pay over $350 even with rebate when it's widely available for under $345 without rebate and with free shipping??????!?!?!?!

(the egg and zzf both have them for this price).

Mine arrived to day.. $345 with free shipping. :D


Dude where did you get that awsome desktop pic?


http://www.deviantart.com/view/22206267/

Deviant art has eeverything. Best wallpaper imo.

[curveball692]

http://myweb.cableone.net/wdavis/lcd.jpg

:D

This alone has made my purchasing decision! :D

Seriously though, I was about to buy a Dell 2007WFP, having waited for the supposed banding fix on it, but I really like the looks of this monitor. Plus I currently have a Viewsonic VP171b, so this keeps the same brand on my desk, but hopefully wont have any stuck pixels (mine has 3). Just have to decide now if I want the $355 version from buy.com or take a chance on dead/stuck pixels at newegg for $335 shipped.

Way back in the thread somewhere, the panel type was discussed, someone mentioned it was an MVA panel, and linked to the UK site for Viewsonic. Can I safely assume they use the same panel here in the USA as they do in the UK? USA site doesnt mention MVA panel that I could see, and I really am curious to know what type I will be getting with this LCD.

[Bruce]

It is definitely a P-MVA panel.

Here's the specifics: http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=monitor&func=info&product_id=72&items_id=1

[curveball692]

Guess I coulda looked in the thread stickied at the top of the forum too ;) Thanks for replying though!

[Droban]

Seriously though, I was about to buy a Dell 2007WFP, having waited for the supposed banding fix on it, but I really like the looks of this monitor. Plus I currently have a Viewsonic VP171b, so this keeps the same brand on my desk, but hopefully wont have any stuck pixels (mine has 3). Just have to decide now if I want the $355 version from buy.com or take a chance on dead/stuck pixels at newegg for $335 shipped.
LCD.

So Buy.com allows returning if there are any dead pixels?

[Jon/xpm]

delete

[dR.Jester]

This alone has made my purchasing decision! :D

Seriously though, I was about to buy a Dell 2007WFP, having waited for the supposed banding fix on it, but I really like the looks of this monitor. Plus I currently have a Viewsonic VP171b, so this keeps the same brand on my desk, but hopefully wont have any stuck pixels (mine has 3). Just have to decide now if I want the $355 version from buy.com or take a chance on dead/stuck pixels at newegg for $335 shipped.

Way back in the thread somewhere, the panel type was discussed, someone mentioned it was an MVA panel, and linked to the UK site for Viewsonic. Can I safely assume they use the same panel here in the USA as they do in the UK? USA site doesnt mention MVA panel that I could see, and I really am curious to know what type I will be getting with this LCD.

Check with J&R.

Thats where I bought mine from, even has a $50 MIR. The monitor itself is absolutely beautiful. I'd have to say it looks way better than my old Samsung 930b 19 inch. The Widescreen is a huge plus aswell. Overall, this monitor earns a 10 out 10 in my book. Worth every penny!

*Edit*

Im pretty sure the Viewsonic uses an LG panel.

[sdat1333]

well I just ordered one of these, i was very close to ordering a 2007fpw but opted for this b/c of the banding issues. Lets hope it turns out OK.

[dR.Jester]

I too was going to order the 2007FPW until I started doing my homework (always pays off). After reading non-stop complaints about the Color Banding I changed my mind. I think Dell has lost out on so many sales because of this. :)

Hoorah for Viewsonic!

[AlphexHunter]

Thanks for that walppaper!! :D

Anywhoo, the only thing holding me back from buying this monitor are simply 2 things..

-First its a Widescreen display witch I know that not all games can support but you can "Hack" into the game to make it work ( witch makes the game look amazing ), but I dont want to start editing readme's and having all that trouble I just want it simple put the game install and play no troubles...( questions wondering in my head with no answers is like will I be able to "hack" into UT2007 to make it work nicely and properly what about Spore, BF2142, Quake Wars...:( )

-Seconde is that Dell 2405 are starting to drop prices like crazy last week their was a 200$ rebeate! And am sure that as soon as 2407 come out their is going to be left over 2405 and their going to be for special prices :D! And the dell 2405 is like one of the top monitors to get...

Other then that I dont know what am gonna pick right now, competition is way to hot its driving me crazy. I must of read 100 different reviews about different lcd that came out. End result is one of these's monitors ( the dell 2405 and the ViewsonicVX2025wm ) are the ones for me and my personnal use and needs for them ( nice big resolution, watch tv on it, and game lots!) but I just dont know what to pick right now...

[curveball692]

that 2405 is cool, but its just too big for my desk... :eek:

Maybe I need a new desk....

What was the final price of the 2405 after rebate?

[AlphexHunter]

2 weeks ago it was about 745$ CAN with shipping and tax.
This week its at 815$ with shipping I think the mater is you wont go over 1000$ CAN witch puts a smile on my face :D

And dude bigger is better, dont tell me its too big its amazing if I hade the money I would go iven better and get the best lcd on the market 3007fpw :cool: !!

[igl00jx]

Because of this thread, I went to a local CompUSA and picked up this monitor. Very nice image quality. :D

[Droban]

The only problem with the larger Dells is they won't be a good gaming solution because of such high resolutions. But for everything else...filthy amazing. I sort of hate Dell though, anyone have a good method of getting rid of the Dell logo? Or maybe replacing the D with an H.

I'm also still on edge to jump on this viewsonic.

[standard141]

is the height adjustment really a problem? how high does it go???

[Coldtronius]

is the height adjustment really a problem? how high does it go???

You can't adjust the heigth period with the 2020wm

[LordBritish]

I dropped an air vent grill on my vx2025wm :(

It's ok, there's just a gouge on the top of the monitor - barely visible.

Arghh, sh1t happens.

[TomViolence]

After trawling through this thread and pondering my decision all weekend I've took the plunge.
I just built my new system and had every intention of pairing it up with a top spec 19" tft screen to replace my Samsung 17"crt.
However the price diffence was only around £40 so I figured I may as well go for this one as surely more and more games in the future will have widescreen modes.
I had a look at many other models such as Belinea, Dell, NEC and Philips but I couldn't really stretch to that extra ££.
It's going to be my first tft screen so am eagerly awaiting trying it out.

[TomViolence]

Also, how easy would this be to mount on a wall arm/bracket and could someone recommend any cheapish ones in the UK ?
And how long is the supplied DVI cable ?
The machine I just built is an AMDx2 3800, with 2gb of OCZ Gold XTC Dual channel and an XFX 7900gt all running at stock, will this be able to play games in good detail at this resolution ?
Thanks.

[I3eyond]

After trawling through this thread and pondering my decision all weekend I've took the plunge.
I just built my new system and had every intention of pairing it up with a top spec 19" tft screen to replace my Samsung 17"crt.
However the price diffence was only around £40 so I figured I may as well go for this one as surely more and more games in the future will have widescreen modes.
I had a look at many other models such as Belinea, Dell, NEC and Philips but I couldn't really stretch to that extra ££.
It's going to be my first tft screen so am eagerly awaiting trying it out.

let us know if you notice any ghosting..

[TomViolence]

let us know if you notice any ghosting..

Will do but as it's my first tft I'm not sure what some problems will look like. I figure if I don't know what they are then they don't exist
:D
Seriously though, I can always return it under the distance selling regulations if I'm not impressed, just didn't see the sense in paying £230-£240 on a 19" lower res tft.

[animasaki]

Also, how easy would this be to mount on a wall arm/bracket and could someone recommend any cheapish ones in the UK ?
And how long is the supplied DVI cable ?
The machine I just built is an AMDx2 3800, with 2gb of OCZ Gold XTC Dual channel and an XFX 7900gt all running at stock, will this be able to play games in good detail at this resolution ?
Thanks.

As far as mounting goes, it has standard mounting holes on the back. I've seen a few people have different (and quite impressive) mounts added easily. Now where to find one in the UK, I couldn't tell you. ;)

The supplied DVI cable is about 6' long.

As far as performance goes, you'll be more than fine. Here are my computer specs:

Athlon XP 3000
2GB RAM
BFG GeForce 6800 GS OC

As you can see, my specs are pretty crappy compared to yours, and I have no problem running, say, FEAR or Guild Wars in native resolution with settings near, or at, max. More demanding games like Call of Duty 2 cause me to go down in resolution, but such is life for the poor college student!

You should no problem whatsoever gaming at 1680x1050 on this baby. Heck, if you get the chance, I'd like to hear just how well you run things when you get it all set up.

Here's hoping your DVI port works! :rolleyes:

[Mh0user]

heh this friday im ordering mine :)

[I3eyond]

As far as mounting goes, it has standard mounting holes on the back. I've seen a few people have different (and quite impressive) mounts added easily. Now where to find one in the UK, I couldn't tell you. ;)

The supplied DVI cable is about 6' long.

As far as performance goes, you'll be more than fine. Here are my computer specs:

Athlon XP 3000
2GB RAM
BFG GeForce 6800 GS OC

As you can see, my specs are pretty crappy compared to yours, and I have no problem running, say, FEAR or Guild Wars in native resolution with settings near, or at, max. More demanding games like Call of Duty 2 cause me to go down in resolution, but such is life for the poor college student!

You should no problem whatsoever gaming at 1680x1050 on this baby. Heck, if you get the chance, I'd like to hear just how well you run things when you get it all set up.

Here's hoping your DVI port works! :rolleyes:

do you notice any ghosting?

[dR.Jester]

How would I go about hooking an Xbox 360 up to the VX2025wm?

I picked up a HDMI to DVI cable from Walmart for $20 on clearance, what else would I need?

[animasaki]

I3eyond, I would be dishonest if I said that there was no ghosting. However, I've had great quality CRTs up until this monitor, and honestly, I can't find more than a hint of it. There are plenty of things to think about before buying this monitor (such as the DVI port breaking with nVidia cards), but ghosting, thankfully, isn't one of them.

[DamienThorn]

Ignore

[MrGuvernment]

^^ dido, no ghosting at all here for me, playing most CS:S and DoD 1680x 1050 - all details max no aa or AF - 75mhz refresh and vsync on.