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TechHead
09-22-2006, 12:44 PM
Bump. Planning on picking one of these up. How are the viewing angles on this? Backlight bleeding?

Noni
09-22-2006, 01:15 PM
Viewing angles are alright!

There is some backlight bleed but only on the windows thingy. The blacks on this panel are great.

sethk
09-22-2006, 03:39 PM
Viewing angles are good (compared to TNs or the 22" panels) but there is still some color shift off-angle while brightness is maintained.

TechHead
09-23-2006, 03:55 AM
Cheers for the replies, guys.

Jarrett
10-09-2006, 06:23 PM
Bump =p

I have a BFG 6600 GT OC AGP.......I was thinking of getting this monitor also. Can I run a game at 1280x1024 or 1024x768 using its native resolution? Like black bars on the sides so it still displays optimal quality. No stretching...you guys know what I mean. ;)

Jarrett
10-10-2006, 03:24 PM
Woo I got mine today!!!! :D :)

Something I find interesting on mine is that it is spec'd at TCO'03 on the box whilst the ViewSonic website states TCO'99 :eek:

I haven't hooked it up yet. I had to carry the bloody thing 2km because I took the train to get to the nearest GO station then walk. My arms feel like noodles.

Jarrett
10-12-2006, 05:28 PM
Is there a vx2025wm haters thread I am missing :P

I miss the discussion of this lovely monitor I got only two days. :)

A13X
10-14-2006, 08:52 PM
Can someone post some pics of an xbox 360 running on this monitor? I really want to see how it looks, because i am still deciding to get one or not.

Jarrett
10-15-2006, 03:32 AM
I better share my settings. This was a bugger as many have mentioned to get it looking its best.

On the monitor itself:

Brightness 50
Contrast: 66

NVIDIA Color Correction:

Digital Vibrance: 9% (in the control panel)
Brightness 100%
Contrast 100%
Gamma 0.86

Eizo has an excellent test package. It's free and thorough!

http://prad.de/en/monitore/testprogramme.html

click the eizo test

dR.Jester
10-15-2006, 11:03 AM
Can someone post some pics of an xbox 360 running on this monitor? I really want to see how it looks, because i am still deciding to get one or not.

You should get your account banned for using caps like that.

Why don't you try the first few pages of this thread as I recall someone had posted them already.

A13X
10-16-2006, 06:51 AM
sorry, but i viewed the whole thread and there no pics.

also i have never heard of a "font size rule" so sorry :(

heres a pic of mine :D
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4117/random023ar2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cannydog
10-16-2006, 10:22 AM
For some reason, when you use this display with an xBox 360 it drops the contrast and washes out the colors. I don't have one to even try it, or provide pictures. But I think you can search threads here and find it, maybe... :) (Well I tried it and the result was messy! Sorry)

alpha0ne
10-16-2006, 11:34 AM
sorry, but i viewed the whole thread and there no pics.

also i have never heard of a "font size rule" so i would keep quiet... :rolleyes:

heres a pic of mine :D
[URL=http://imageshack.us]

Very Nice ;)

Silmatharien
10-16-2006, 02:41 PM
looks like a great monitor. only thing I am not sure of is for gaming ... I have an X1900XT but am not sure if it'll be able to handle everything at this monitor's native res.

I've been using CRT monitors for the past 5 years and don't know how running a game at below the native res. will affect its appearance.

Jarrett
10-16-2006, 04:02 PM
sweet A13X :p

A13X
10-16-2006, 04:39 PM
thanks! :D

A13X
10-16-2006, 06:06 PM
Xbox 360 connected via the MS Xbox 360 VGA HD cables at 1360x768.
Pictures taken with Panasonic DMC-L50

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000753.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000752.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000747.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000746.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000742.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/drkmike/P1000740.jpg

whew that took a LOT of searching but i found it! sorry i guess i skimmed through that page before the images loaded

well anyway this pretty much settles it, those pics look great! im definately getting a 360 for halo 3 after my complete dx10 rig is built and the price goes down a little on the 360

and a note to silmatharien, this monitor is amazing for game, its definately the monitor's strongest aspect (besides the cheap price). There is absolutely no ghosting at all, less than my old vx924, which has a 3 ms response time!

my only real complaints are
the backlight bleeding on black screens
the lack of monitor scaling and hd inputs in the back
"rainbow sparkles" on white areas ( this can be very hard on the eyes when typing a word doc)
washed out screen on defauly settings (this is really a non issue as this can be fixed either in the monitor controll pannel, or better in the nvidia controll pannel. All you have to do is reduce the gamma a little, and put 5-10% digital vibrancy depending on your prepherences, and the colors are fantastic (amazing contrast!)

keep in mind that ALL OF THE ISSUES GO AWAY while playing games. There is NO bleeding (even in f.e.a.r.), the sparkly rainbow effect is GONE, and nothing is left but 1680x1050 widescreen goodness!

I HIGHLY recomend this monitor.

MrFace
10-17-2006, 08:37 AM
I ordered one yesterday. My coworker got the 19" and I was incredibly impressed.

Jarrett
10-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Would any of the owners like to post their settings? Just curious :o

Monitor:
Brightness 50, Contrast 67

NVIDIA Color Correction:
I kept brightness and contrast at 100% like default and tweaked it on my monitor instead. One step in brightness or contrast feels like 3-4 on the monitor OSD control.

Digital Vibrance 7%, Gamma 0.86

I could only find a handful of people's settings...that Gateway review/comparison thread really helped me realize how low the gamma was to begin.

TyroneShoelaces
10-20-2006, 12:56 PM
Bump =p

I have a BFG 6600 GT OC AGP.......I was thinking of getting this monitor also. Can I run a game at 1280x1024 or 1024x768 using its native resolution? Like black bars on the sides so it still displays optimal quality. No stretching...you guys know what I mean. ;)


This monitor will NOT do scaling, BUT with your Nvidia card you can activate "fixed aspect ratio" scaling or "centered" scaling in the nVidia control panel.

Keep this in mind, although this might have only been for my monitor... when I activated the scaling, the monitor would say "Out of Range" and it wouldn't work. I am connected via DVI cable. I switched from output #1 on the card, to output #2, and it worked fine.

I'm running on two eVGA 7800GTs COs in SLI.

-TyShoe

DeathCloud
10-20-2006, 06:16 PM
So I bit the bullet and picked this bad boy today up at comp usa for around $350. I couldnt be happier right now. It blows my old 19 inch CRT out of the water. Cant really comment on the blacklight bleed until after dark but so far so good. Thanks to all in the forum for this info. :D

Dan_D
10-20-2006, 06:18 PM
So I bit the bullet and picked this bad boy today up at comp usa for around $350. I couldnt be happier right now. It blows my old 19 inch CRT out of the water. Cant really comment on the blacklight bleed until after dark but so far so good. Thanks to all in the forum for this info. :D

I've got one too, and it's pretty good, especially for the price point. I was really pleased with it.

Originally I just bought it because it was on sale and I needed something to tide me over until my Dell 3007 arrived. I was VERY surprised by it. Especially since I didn't think it would be able to match my old Viewsonic VP201s. Color reproduction wise, it didn't, but in all the other categories it did.

It's true what they say about widescreen as well. Once you go widescreen you never go back.

littlejohn1959
10-20-2006, 06:25 PM
12 days ago i purchased this monitor . last evening ,it acted up . it fell asleep ,and hasent woke up since . after reading this thread , it seems im not alone here . the dvi thing is a pain in the butt , for sure . i did call viewsonic for some support , the lady on the other end told me that i really should be useing a screensaver for that lcd monitor .
like a gentleman , i told her thanks for her time ,laughed to myself , and hung up the phone .
with any luck , the computer shop that i got this monitor from , will at least , give me a credit check for it . i paid $482.00 for a few hours of amazement .
in my opinion , its a great monitor , for some . but not so great , for others .
GOOD LUCK , to the people who buys this monitor .
dont forget to load a SCREENSAVER on it . it might make some kind of difference that no one may be aware of yet .
ive read the manuel , such as it was ,
no mention of a screensaver there .
nor no mention of dvi problems either .
god help me i hope , because im quite sure now , VIEWSONIC WONT .
thanks for reading my 2 cents worth on the viewsonic vx2025wm ..
cheers .
a very dissappointed viewsonic owner .

DeathCloud
10-20-2006, 06:29 PM
Screensaver..thats pretty good. Well I have a screensaver so fingers crossed I wont have any problems. :cool:

UncleDavid218
10-20-2006, 06:34 PM
12 days ago i purchased this monitor . last evening ,it acted up . it fell asleep ,and hasent woke up since . after reading this thread , it seems im not alone here . the dvi thing is a pain in the butt , for sure . i did call viewsonic for some support , the lady on the other end told me that i really should be useing a screensaver for that lcd monitor .
like a gentleman , i told her thanks for her time ,laughed to myself , and hung up the phone .
with any luck , the computer shop that i got this monitor from , will at least , give me a credit check for it . i paid $482.00 for a few hours of amazement .
in my opinion , its a great monitor , for some . but not so great , for others .
GOOD LUCK , to the people who buys this monitor .
dont forget to load a SCREENSAVER on it . it might make some kind of difference that no one may be aware of yet .
ive read the manuel , such as it was ,
no mention of a screensaver there .
nor no mention of dvi problems either .
god help me i hope , because im quite sure now , VIEWSONIC WONT .
thanks for reading my 2 cents worth on the viewsonic vx2025wm ..
cheers .
a very dissappointed viewsonic owner .You got RIPPED off if you're in the States

littlejohn1959
10-20-2006, 06:38 PM
i wouldnt wish the way im feeling about viewsonic , on my worst enemy ..
ive been dissapointed a few times in this lifetime . but this one is well up, in the top 10 .
it took me the best part of this summer , to save enough for this upgrade . its a downgrade to me now .
SCREENSAVER ,, my foot .
i wonder does any member of the viewsonic team , read these forums .. it would be so good to hear a positive awnser from someone at the top .
good luck .
cheers .

littlejohn1959
10-20-2006, 06:39 PM
You got RIPPED off if you're in the States
cheers mate . im from canada . maybe its to cold here for that monitor to work .. ha ha .
good luck .

Silmatharien
10-22-2006, 11:22 PM
cheers mate . im from canada . maybe its to cold here for that monitor to work .. ha ha .
good luck .

you still paid a lot. I bought this today for $400 from Canada Computers. just waiting for it to get here now :D

Jarrett
10-23-2006, 12:15 AM
I got mine at PCCanada ;) for $390 + tax. I knew Canada Computers and Infonec were selling for around $360 at the time, but I like the staff at PCCanada: they always give me excellent support and their knowledge is above average. Oh right, and you can collect points to use against a larger purchase later.

littlejohn1959
10-23-2006, 07:05 AM
i hope you have better luck than i did . there is a dvi tool that i can try , but im not going to try it . ill suggest it to the computer guy that i got the monitor from . if he wants to try the dvi tool , thats the best kind by me .
when it was working , it was a great monitor .
im disappointed in the support from viewsonic . service is important too , when you make a purchase . anyways , i will be returning my monitor on wensday . ill see what happens then .
the very best of luck , with your monitors there .
cheers .

Wayno-san
10-24-2006, 10:11 PM
I have had this monitor for a few months now. It had no bad pixels and it's very bright however the corner bleeding is annoying. I called Viewsonic tech support and they are willing to do an RMA but I'm hesitant to do so since I have no idea what the probability is that a replacement will be better. I took some photos of the monitor and am hoping you guys that own one can comment on if the light bleed on mine is worse than average. I took these photos with the room dark, the only light source is the monitor.

Anyone know if Viewsonic covers shipping both ways on RMAs? I forgot to ask.

http://www.imagestation.com/7539240/3965520552http://www.imagestation.com/4909592/4221524496Photos are here: http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2100327057
http://www.imagestation.com/7539240/3965520546
(I couldn't figure out how to attach them)
http://www.imagestation.com/7539240/3965520430
http://www.imagestation.com/7539240/3965520423

A13X
10-24-2006, 10:23 PM
yeah that is in every vx2025, but you can greatly reduce it with the nvidia control pannel (even eliminate it, but it makes other colors look worse)

krupted
10-24-2006, 10:45 PM
damn all of this light bleeding on the budget monitors. these screens should be cheaper because of the lower contrast ratios, brightness and resolutions- not because of manufacturing/engineering flaws.

Dan_D
10-24-2006, 11:22 PM
My VX2025wm is no where near as bad as that one. Mine is only about 4 or 5 weeks old though.

Wayno-san
10-25-2006, 08:21 AM
I'm running it through the DVI port so most of the on-monitor settings have been disabled. I do have an nVidia card... what changes to the settings would your recommend A13X? When I played with the settings I wasn't satisfied with what I did to the picture so I re-adjusted it using a color/monitor calibration utility (I forget which one, but it was a free piece of software I downloaded somewhere).

Dan_D: Are you running it through the VGA or DVI port? What is your brightness setting if you don't mind. The bleeding hasn't gotten any worse/better over time as far as I can tell.

Thanks for the feedback guys, looks liike it's about 50/50 so far. Hopefully some more people will chime in.

-Wayno

BLUEFISH44
10-25-2006, 09:16 AM
I've had my 2025 for a few weeks now and i love it, but it hasn't been all paradise. I had a issue a while back were the screen would come on for a second or two then go to standby mode. The speakers would "pop" when the screen turned off. I thought at first the screen had just over heated so i left it for a while. after a few hours i turned the screen back on only to find it did the same thing right from the begining of the boot up of my computer. Now i was worried. I tried unpluging it, trying the analog mode, yelling at it, nothing worked. I started to look for a way to reset the monitor by holding down keys for the trademark 5 seconds. and presto! the screen shut down then came back and stayed on.
Other then that episode the screen has been wonderful and is fantastic as far as i'm concerned.

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/193197.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=193197)

Dan_D
10-25-2006, 11:12 AM
I'm running it through the DVI port so most of the on-monitor settings have been disabled. I do have an nVidia card... what changes to the settings would your recommend A13X? When I played with the settings I wasn't satisfied with what I did to the picture so I re-adjusted it using a color/monitor calibration utility (I forget which one, but it was a free piece of software I downloaded somewhere).

Dan_D: Are you running it through the VGA or DVI port? What is your brightness setting if you don't mind. The bleeding hasn't gotten any worse/better over time as far as I can tell.

Thanks for the feedback guys, looks liike it's about 50/50 so far. Hopefully some more people will chime in.

-Wayno

Currently I am not running it at all. I ran it for about three or four weeks while I waited for my Dell 3007WFP to be ordered, then arrive.

I ran it through DVI only. I won't have an LCD that's analog and I damn sure won't run analog if DVI is an option. In fact, that's why I ended up with the VX2025wm. My VP201s wouldn't work in DVI mode on my X1950XTX's, and but it would on any other video card or computer. I refused to run my VP201s as an analog LCD for any length of time. It just looks aweful.

So I grabbed a VX2025wm, and then I decided that while I really, really liked the widescreen, the monitor wasn't big enough. So I grabbed the Dell 3007WFP.

Kris
10-25-2006, 01:33 PM
I purchased 3 of these monitors about 3 weeks ago. 2 out of 3 worked perfectly. The third, instead of a solid black background (like when you first turn your computer on), it was maroon. No color adjustments or resets would fix it. It worked on my desktop for about 5 minutes and lost its signal. I tried swapping DVI and even ports on my graphics card but the same issue. it was dead.

I setup an RMA to Newegg, Newegg even refunded my shipping to them and now I have a new, 3rd monitor and it looks beautiful like the others. (all running on DVI, btw)

So far I'm loving these babies and I only paid about $329 for them from Newegg :D

FastCorner
10-25-2006, 04:48 PM
I just bought an open box model from CompUSA the other day for around $320 out the door. It's a pretty nice panel, but I'm probably going to return it.

Won't go past 1280x1024 when connected to my GeForce FX 5200 via DVI but works fine on an old Radeon 9500 Pro (despite having the monitor driver installed)


Creates a white "shadow" the pixel before and/or after a black pixel. This is really annoying when viewing unantialiased black text on a white background. Most prominent when connected to my Sony TR. Not so much of a problem (but still noticeable) with the NVIDIA/ATI cards. My experience is that Samsung has better controls for dealing with this.
I think I'll try a Dell 2007WFP or a Samsung 215TW next.

Dave_06
10-27-2006, 10:17 AM
Ordered myself one of these beauties, came today - VERY PLEASED.

HL2 never looked so good, everything seemed so much more immersive with the extra width.

However, there is one main drawback, its a B'day present which means it has to go back in its box until next friday :eek: :( :mad: I was only allowed to give it a quick test...My birthdays a whole week away! :eek:

Its going to be a long week, I just know it....

Seriously though, awesome monitor

Blauman
10-27-2006, 01:30 PM
Ordered myself one of these beauties, came today - VERY PLEASED.

HL2 never looked so good, everything seemed so much more immersive with the extra width.

However, there is one main drawback, its a B'day present which means it has to go back in its box until next friday :eek: :( :mad: I was only allowed to give it a quick test...My birthdays a whole week away! :eek:

Its going to be a long week, I just know it....

Seriously though, awesome monitor

that really sux!! I love mine though, have had it about 4 months or so and cant complain about it all.

d][g][tal
10-27-2006, 09:49 PM
Has anyone discovered the solution for fixed aspect ratio scaling for this monitor yet? particularly with nvidia 7900 series video cards.

paraiso36
11-03-2006, 07:20 PM
[g][tal']Has anyone discovered the solution for fixed aspect ratio scaling for this monitor yet? particularly with nvidia 7900 series video cards.

Good Night,

I currently own a Viewsonic VP171b which I found really good and I am considering on buying this Viewsonic VX2025 which as I have read the reviews is a very good one. My only problem is the same of yours and the same of lot of users...I will use the LCD mainly for playing. I own a 7900GTX card and (only a matter of taste) I always play in 1024x760...And this is the main reason I havent bought the LCD yet (and my dealer have one reserved for me) becuase of the scaling problems.

So I have two questions,

1.- Have anyone tested this problem with the new Forceware recently launched?

2.- I have read the following post:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6586&highlight=viewsonic+scaling

Can anyone confirm this?

As a matter of fact my dealer has exactly the same model (I have just checked it) and the manufacture Date is August 2006... Again, can anyone confirm differences between models of this LCD?

Thanks...

Blue Falcon
11-03-2006, 08:45 PM
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6586&highlight=viewsonic+scaling

Can anyone confirm this?

As a matter of fact my dealer has exactly the same model (I have just checked it) and the manufacture Date is August 2006... Again, can anyone confirm differences between models of this LCD?

Thanks...

They may have a new firmware that's being loaded into these monitors to resolve this issue with new units, but the VS10859 model number is the same as all VX2025WMs. That hasn't changed since the monitor debuted.

Here's hoping that if this is the case, the firmware can be released and loaded onto the older units.

Dan_D
11-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Good Night,

I currently own a Viewsonic VP171b which I found really good and I am considering on buying this Viewsonic VX2025 which as I have read the reviews is a very good one. My only problem is the same of yours and the same of lot of users...I will use the LCD mainly for playing. I own a 7900GTX card and (only a matter of taste) I always play in 1024x760...And this is the main reason I havent bought the LCD yet (and my dealer have one reserved for me) becuase of the scaling problems.

So I have two questions,

1.- Have anyone tested this problem with the new Forceware recently launched?

2.- I have read the following post:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6586&highlight=viewsonic+scaling

Can anyone confirm this?

As a matter of fact my dealer has exactly the same model (I have just checked it) and the manufacture Date is August 2006... Again, can anyone confirm differences between models of this LCD?

Thanks...

Good lord man. You have a 7900GTX and only play at 1024x768? That card is capable of so much more.

Blue Falcon
11-03-2006, 10:06 PM
Good lord man. You have a 7900GTX and only play at 1024x768? That card is capable of so much more.


LOTS of games don't play well with widescreen aspect ratios......

paraiso36
11-03-2006, 11:46 PM
Good lord man. You have a 7900GTX and only play at 1024x768? That card is capable of so much more.

LOL....well yes..you are right..it is a bad habit....Well, I think I will give it a try and tomorrow I will buy this monitor...Then I will post the results...

Booker
11-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Today i was able to play farcry with image scaling.. i donīt know how i did it but i canīt do it again :(

Any tips?

9800Pro here.

paraiso36
11-04-2006, 04:00 PM
Good Day,

Well I have just installed the LCD on my PC... I had a VP171b and I must say that the quality of the image is almost the same than that. But I must state first of all the following points and I think I have to mention it because this isnt a review and I am a practical person,

1.- I have a genetic problem, so I cannot see colors very well. In that case I must say that this new LCD looks extacly like my old one so I am happy with that.

2.- I didnt see any dead pixels but this is a visual inspection...I doubt I will ado ny technical test looking for them. The "psichological illness" of KNOWING there is a DEAD pixel is stronger that the fact that it really exists. I mean, with my old LCD had one dead pixel...Since I found it my sight involuntary looked at it even if I wasnt seeing it.

3.- I read a review that mentioned that since this LCD is Widescreen, it doesnt look so "big" compared with a 17". Well, compared with my VS VP it CERTAINLY looks big and the aesthetic are very good.

4.- The scalation problem was my really concern. Well using 75 mhz and res of 1024x760, I tried all options in Nvidia FOrceware LCD Panel Configuration, and NO ONE gave me an error. I must remember you I have a Gigabyte 7900GTX video Card and I am using not the last Forceware (the one that was launched a few days ago) but the one before that.

The following images were taken with my BenQ Digital Cam and I must warn you that the excesive bright spots is due ti I havent taken the protective film from the LCD. The Game is TopSPin,

1024x760 Using NVIDIA SCALING WITH FIXED ASPECT RATIO

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1856/pict0033vk4.jpg


1024x760 Using NVIDIA SCALING (Sorry I am an awful phographer)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7829/pict0034fq9.jpg

1024x760 Using My Display Built In Scale

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6205/pict0035mt4.jpg


1024x760 Using DO NOT SCALE

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/97/pict0037qr0.jpg

Well no errors like "OUT OF..." were displayed and looking at a game like TopSpin only using 1024x760 look very good. I must admit that it is a little "fat" in comparison to 4:3 LCD but I was very satisfied with this game and also considering that it is an old one with no excellent graphics.

As I mentioned before I only need to be able to play about 2 hours with games after spending all the day in my office..so problems with the corners, color banding, etc...really doesnt matter TO ME if they arent extremely noticeable.

Finally, having a SB X-Fi Elite Pro, Logitech 5400 Wireless 5.1 speakers and Sennheiser HD 25 SP I am certainly sure I will never use the LCD speakers so I will no test them.

Please fell free to ask any questions..I am just beginning to check my LCD...

Teto
11-05-2006, 03:09 PM
4.- The scalation problem was my really concern. Well using 75 mhz and res of 1024x760, I tried all options in Nvidia FOrceware LCD Panel Configuration, and NO ONE gave me an error. I must remember you I have a Gigabyte 7900GTX video Card and I am using not the last Forceware (the one that was launched a few days ago) but the one before that.

The following images were taken with my BenQ Digital Cam and I must warn you that the excesive bright spots is due ti I havent taken the protective film from the LCD. The Game is TopSPin,

1024x760 Using NVIDIA SCALING WITH FIXED ASPECT RATIO

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1856/pict0033vk4.jpg



1024x760 Using NVIDIA SCALING (Sorry I am an awful phographer)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7829/pict0034fq9.jpg

1024x760 Using My Display Built In Scale

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6205/pict0035mt4.jpg


1024x760 Using DO NOT SCALE

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/97/pict0037qr0.jpg

Well no errors like "OUT OF..." were displayed and looking at a game like TopSpin only using 1024x760 look very good. I must admit that it is a little "fat" in comparison to 4:3 LCD but I was very satisfied with this game and also considering that it is an old one with no excellent graphics.

As I mentioned before I only need to be able to play about 2 hours with games after spending all the day in my office..so problems with the corners, color banding, etc...really doesnt matter TO ME if they arent extremely noticeable.

Finally, having a SB X-Fi Elite Pro, Logitech 5400 Wireless 5.1 speakers and Sennheiser HD 25 SP I am certainly sure I will never use the LCD speakers so I will no test them.

Please fell free to ask any questions..I am just beginning to check my LCD...



Wooow. :eek: Can anyone else confirm that this is working with other GeForce 79xx cards aswell?

I have a new conroe C2D system with a XFX 7950GT Extreme card incoming and I'm pretty close on gettin me one of these VX2025WM panels for that system. But the aspect ratio issue with 7900 cards made me wait for a solution.

I'm really happy that it worked out for ya Paraiso36:D
Would be sooo great if it worked for others aswell.

BTW! BIIIG thanks to Coldtronius and all the other guys for starting and making this a GREAT thread. /salute :D

Alucard IX
11-05-2006, 06:29 PM
I just got this display and been struggling with the scaling on my ati card for days. I was really happy when I read that you got the scaling to work with the newer monitor.
I just hope it works with ATI cards as well.
I think I'll call viewsonic and ask them to do a firmware upgrade om my monitor (if one is available).

Edit: On the backside of the screen there's a sticker containing some information.
Here's what it says:
TJS1 REV:3A L9V
EBL9V003011
2006.06.13

What rev do you have, or what does your sticker say?

Booker
11-05-2006, 08:24 PM
I have a ATI card and i make it work.. only once..

it was on fear, i set 1280x720 hoping to have a scaling picture, but for some reason the picture was on 1:1 1280x720

Why? iīm not sure yet.. i tried again... and it didnīt work.

paraiso36
11-05-2006, 08:45 PM
I just got this display and been struggling with the scaling on my ati card for days. I was really happy when I read that you got the scaling to work with the newer monitor.
I just hope it works with ATI cards as well.
I think I'll call viewsonic and ask them to do a firmware upgrade om my monitor (if one is available).

Edit: On the backside of the screen there's a sticker containing some information.
Here's what it says:
TJS1 REV:3A L9V
EBL9V003011
2006.06.13

What rev do you have, or what does your sticker say?

Good Night,

Well I have checked the LCD and working with games in 1024x760 and trying different options of Scaling in the Foreceware Driver, there is no ERROR Message at all.

The only one I have had is one related with the configuration of the LCD..I mean every time I adjust the settings, when I play a movie, the colors and settings are all right. Then, I quit the Forceware Panel and all colors and contrast return to an "original" version which look too dark and reddish. I read all posts in this thread and I remember a problem like that, but now I couldnt find it. Anyway, I solved it returning to the classic view of Nvidia Forceware Panel and there setting the LCD. I dont know why but that worked.

Overall I use mainly this LCD for playing (99%) after spending all day in my Office and even though it is a little strange to get customed with a Widescreen view, I am really happy with it.

By the way the info you asked,

1.- Model Number: VS10859
2.- S/N: Q6Y063221439
3.- Manufacturing Date: August 2006

Jarrett
11-05-2006, 11:37 PM
For the record I am using a BFG 6600 GT OC card and all the NVIDIA scaling options work flawlessly. It seems like the 7900 series in general has caused the majority of scaling problems. I'd put off buying anything in the 7900 series for now and wait until the new generation of NVIDIA cards come out next week.

If the colours change when you quit the panel try changing them under colour correction (right click your tray icon).

Leave the sliders at 100%...I corrected the brightness (50) and contrast (67) on the monitor itself because it uses smaller increments. Gamma (0.86) and Digital Vibrance (7%) are good settings...for me ;)

Blue Falcon
11-06-2006, 12:44 AM
People who don't have problems scaling should post their firmware info listed in the service menu on the monitor.

Get to the service menu by holding down the "2" button while powering the monitor on (power light will remain amber). Then going to the "F" item in the menu.

Jarrett
11-06-2006, 01:30 AM
Mine says manufactured Aug 2006 on the back

service menu says....

W0VX V1.00 AUO NVT

Blue Falcon
11-06-2006, 02:10 AM
Interesting, mine says:

W0VX-A 1.02 AUO NVT

Manufactured: May 2006

Alucard IX
11-06-2006, 03:20 AM
Does "use centered timings" work for you Blue Falcon? I saw you had an ATI card.
Cause it doesn't work for me in any other resolutions than 1360x"something". I have a X1900XT 256MB.

Blue Falcon
11-06-2006, 05:28 AM
Does "use centered timings" work for you Blue Falcon? I saw you had an ATI card.
Cause it doesn't work for me in any other resolutions than 1360x"something". I have a X1900XT 256MB.


Nope, it doesn't work for me except for one or two really odd resolutions. All the others just stretch reguardless of the "use centered timings" setting. :(

Teto
11-06-2006, 05:25 PM
Hmm. Ordered my XFX 7950 before I found out about this problem. :(
Either I go for the NEC or I live with this problem until the release of the dx10 series and get me one of those.

Alucard IX
11-06-2006, 05:32 PM
My version is:
WOVX V1.00 AUO NVT
And scaling does not work for me with my x1900xt

MrZodiac
11-06-2006, 06:24 PM
Please could anyone post two ingame screenshots of the same game,one with 1024x768 stretched (no black bars) and the other one just with native 1680x1050 widescreen?

Scaling quality is one of the points that is preventing me to buy this monitor.I have 7800GT and i can't run many recent games at native resolution with an acceptable minimun of 2x aa and 8x af so I'll have to run some games at 1024 or 1280 so this is why I'm concerned about stretching quality.

Thanks.

Booker
11-06-2006, 07:45 PM
Would any of the owners like to post their settings? Just curious :o

Monitor:
Brightness 50, Contrast 67

NVIDIA Color Correction:
I kept brightness and contrast at 100% like default and tweaked it on my monitor instead. One step in brightness or contrast feels like 3-4 on the monitor OSD control.

Digital Vibrance 7%, Gamma 0.86

I could only find a handful of people's settings...that Gateway review/comparison thread really helped me realize how low the gamma was to begin.

Yeap this is a good idea...
right now iīm on 50 brightness and 65 contrat.. i think we are not that off since i saw 2 guys already with a settings very close to this.

paraiso36
11-06-2006, 10:47 PM
Please could anyone post two ingame screenshots of the same game,one with 1024x768 stretched (no black bars) and the other one just with native 1680x1050 widescreen?

Scaling quality is one of the points that is preventing me to buy this monitor.I have 7800GT and i can't run many recent games at native resolution with an acceptable minimun of 2x aa and 8x af so I'll have to run some games at 1024 or 1280 so this is why I'm concerned about stretching quality.

Thanks.

Good Night,

Wel here I will post images of Company Of Heroes. To be sincere, 1024x760 looks very good to me and I was greatly surprised. I used Nvidia scaling option with my 7900GTX

1.- Menu Page 1024x760

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4480/pict0041ts6.jpg

2.- Menu Page 1600x1050

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1987/pict0042pu6.jpg

3.- In Game 1024x760

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3066/pict0043qv9.jpg

4.- In Game 1600x1050

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3969/pict0044px8.jpg

Well hope this will be useful...

MrZodiac
11-06-2006, 11:14 PM
Thank you very much paraiso36 for taking those screenshots.
I think too it looks really nice in 1024x768 stretched,nice and clear image.

Concerning the stretching,Do u get upset of the horizontal lengthening of the image using 1024x768 when you are playing a game with non-native widescreen resolution? or u get uset to it?

Thanks again.

(Hope my english is right)

paraiso36
11-06-2006, 11:22 PM
Thank you very much paraiso36 for taking those screenshots.
I think too it looks really nice in 1024x768 stretched.Do u get upset of the horizontal lengthening of the image using 1024x768 when you are playing a game with non-native widescreen resolution? or u get uset to it?

Thanks again.

(Hope my english is right)

Good Night,

You are welcome...as I mentioned before I am really happy how it looks in 1024x760... Desktop in Windows looks a little washed (anyway there is no problem to increase res there) but games looks very good indeed.

About Horizontal lenghtening I asume you are talking about "getting tired having to turn the head at both sides". Well if that is the case the answer is NO. The LCD is large but not extremely large. And as I read in a review, it is more natural to turn the head left and right with Widescreen LCDs than to turn it upwards and downwards with a 4:3 LCD.

PD: Dont worry about your English...it isnt my native language either... :p

Dan_D
11-06-2006, 11:24 PM
Why the hell is that stupid sticker still on the top of your monitor? Those things were meant to be pulled off..

paraiso36
11-06-2006, 11:29 PM
Why the hell is that stupid sticker still on the top of your monitor? Those things were meant to be pulled off..

Good Night,

Mmmmmmm...you are right...but this is the second time I turn on the LCD....I have had too much work and have traveled the last days so I havent been able even to put the LCD in its correct place...when I do that I will take all the stickers out and I will send you a special screenshot... ;)

Regards

MrZodiac
11-06-2006, 11:35 PM
Good Night,

You are welcome...as I mentioned before I am really happy how it looks in 1024x760... Desktop in Windows looks a little washed (anyway there is no problem to increase res there) but games looks very good indeed.

About Horizontal lenghtening I asume you are talking about "getting tired having to turn the head at both sides". Well if that is the case the answer is NO. The LCD is large but not extremely large. And as I read in a review, it is more natural to turn the head left and right with Widescreen LCDs than to turn it upwards and downwards with a 4:3 LCD.

PD: Dont worry about your English...it isnt my native language either... :p


Sorry,it's my fault,I mean getting "annoyed" of looking at and image that is larger horizontally than vertically ("flattening effect") only when it is being stretched by the monitor using 1024x768 res or u forget about ir when u are immerse playing a game?

paraiso36
11-06-2006, 11:45 PM
Sorry,it's my fault,I mean getting "annoyed" of looking at and image that is larger horizontally than vertically ("flattening effect") only when it is being stretched by the monitor using 1024x768 res or u forget about ir when u are immerse playing a game?

Good Night,

Man...I was very fond of my VP171b LCD but this new LCD is huge compared with it and you really feel that you are "in the game"..For me its wonderful...But it is a taste matter...

MrZodiac
11-07-2006, 12:15 AM
With a picture i can explain myself better.I mean exactly this effect:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/screenshots/maxpayne2.php

paraiso36
11-07-2006, 12:36 AM
With a picture i can explain myself better.I mean exactly this effect:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/screenshots/maxpayne2.php

Good Night,

I will not lie to you..At first I notice the effect but after testing two games its almost natural..For me it doesnt matter really...I am absolutely happy woth this LCD and games are much more inmersive than using my 17" LCD...

XBOA2000
11-07-2006, 02:04 AM
With a picture i can explain myself better.I mean exactly this effect:

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/screenshots/maxpayne2.php

That's pretty funny. Max Payne 2 is the first game I played stretched on this monitor where the stretching actually annoyed me.

parsona
11-07-2006, 02:39 AM
I just got my VX2025WM 5 days back, loving every inch of it.

I have a 7900GS with 92.91 forceware, and honestly I expected scaling to be broken based on the comments here (not the more recent ones), but I was pleasantly surprised. Centred scaling and Locked fixed aspect ratio works as intended, with black bars at the sides/top when dropping to lower resolutions. I can post up pics of the scaling, if any of you want confirmation in addition to paraiso's pics.

Will check my firmware when I get back home.

My opinion on this monitor..

Backlight bleeding is quite apparent on the four corners only when I switch off the lights and put on a totally black background. However, when doing anything remotely normal, like gaming, general desktop usage, movies, I personally cannot notice the bleed.

Coming direct from a 17" CRT, I do not observe any ghosting in FPS games. I think I just do not have really sensitive eyes. Playing NFS Carbon on this is SWEET in WS format.

Blacks are quite OK on this monitor... I suppose its one of the best among all panel types, but somehow, I feel that in movies it could still be better! My brightness is set to a lowly 35, contrast 50 as I can't stand it being too bright. Watching DVD and DIVX movies on this is exceptional when viewed from about 3-4 feet away, but if viewed too close, the inadequecy of the DVD format is easily noticed in the forms of blocky graphics. Colours are impressive, not much difference between this and my CRT. There is little to none colour banding.

One complaint I have is that text is damn bloody small on this monitor. When playing Black&White 2 at native ws reso, I often cant make out what the heck my creature is thinking because his thoughts are sometimes shown in green coloured small text. I think a 22" version would make me happier :)

Overall, I would say this monitor is a steal, coz in my country, the other 20" ws monitors are around the same price but they only have a TN panel. A Dell 2007wp costs 30% more than this.

Has anyone tested input lag on this monitor yet? Can anyone recommend a good monitor calibration tool?

Edit: Mine is a WOVX-A v1.02 AUO NVT, manufacture date Aug 2006

MrZodiac
11-07-2006, 12:31 PM
Good Night,

I will not lie to you..At first I notice the effect but after testing two games its almost natural..For me it doesnt matter really...I am absolutely happy woth this LCD and games are much more inmersive than using my 17" LCD...

Indeed the Company of heroes screens u posted looked amazing in 1024x768 even in the menu,where letters and soldat are wider dosen't seem a problem to me.
Don't know if u played Max Payne 2 (1024x768 stretched with no black bars) with VX2025WM and if it looked just like the screenshot i posted before.


That's pretty funny. Max Payne 2 is the first game I played stretched on this monitor where the stretching actually annoyed me.

That's why I haven't bought a VX2025WM yet cos I play many older games plus emulators and if they are gonna look like this when scaling to 1024x768...it's like trying to see a 4:3 movie in a 16:9 tv without aspect ratio.

I just got my VX2025WM 5 days back, loving every inch of it.

I have a 7900GS with 92.91 forceware, and honestly I expected scaling to be broken based on the comments here (not the more recent ones), but I was pleasantly surprised. Centred scaling and Locked fixed aspect ratio works as intended, with black bars at the sides/top when dropping to lower resolutions. I can post up pics of the scaling, if any of you want confirmation in addition to paraiso's pics.

Will check my firmware when I get back home.

My opinion on this monitor..

Backlight bleeding is quite apparent on the four corners only when I switch off the lights and put on a totally black background. However, when doing anything remotely normal, like gaming, general desktop usage, movies, I personally cannot notice the bleed.

Coming direct from a 17" CRT, I do not observe any ghosting in FPS games. I think I just do not have really sensitive eyes. Playing NFS Carbon on this is SWEET in WS format.

Blacks are quite OK on this monitor... I suppose its one of the best among all panel types, but somehow, I feel that in movies it could still be better! My brightness is set to a lowly 35, contrast 50 as I can't stand it being too bright. Watching DVD and DIVX movies on this is exceptional when viewed from about 3-4 feet away, but if viewed too close, the inadequecy of the DVD format is easily noticed in the forms of blocky graphics. Colours are impressive, not much difference between this and my CRT. There is little to none colour banding.

One complaint I have is that text is damn bloody small on this monitor. When playing Black&White 2 at native ws reso, I often cant make out what the heck my creature is thinking because his thoughts are sometimes shown in green coloured small text. I think a 22" version would make me happier :)

Overall, I would say this monitor is a steal, coz in my country, the other 20" ws monitors are around the same price but they only have a TN panel. A Dell 2007wp costs 30% more than this.

Has anyone tested input lag on this monitor yet? Can anyone recommend a good monitor calibration tool?

Edit: Mine is a WOVX-A v1.02 AUO NVT, manufacture date Aug 2006


About scaling pics if you could include a 1024x768 stretched with no black bars screenshot (just capture with Fraps or whatever capture program u use) would be appreciated.

Thank you for your review.

parsona
11-09-2006, 12:51 PM
Desktop @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/9342/desktop1024centrelargerm6.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop1024centrelargerm6.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7118/hl1024centrelargelm3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024centrelargelm3.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Streched
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8861/hl1024scaledlargemd9.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024scaledlargemd9.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1680x1050 full sweet res
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/48/hl1680fulllargeah5.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1680fulllargeah5.jpg)

BTW Mr Zodiac, a screencap using fraps or printscreen wont work in showing you the scaling quality coz you will just see a normal 1024x768 screenshot, not a streched one.

Blue Falcon
11-09-2006, 01:14 PM
OK now I'm uber jealous!

I want 1:1 scaling on my VX2025WM toooooo! :p

Booker
11-09-2006, 03:25 PM
For some reason y can do pixel 1:1 on Widescreen resolutions but not on 4:3 resolutions. :confused:

Booker
11-10-2006, 10:09 AM
My only complain is the backlight bleeding... the X is very noticible on dark screen with light off... not that bad when the lights are on.

MrZodiac
11-10-2006, 08:24 PM
Big Thanks Parsona!! Half-Life in 1024 stretched looks really really good.

I have ordered it a few of days ago.Hope to receive it before saturday or the beginning next week.Can't wait!

ur right about taking screens with fraps,i didn't notice that;one thing i have done (a guy told me in a spanish forum) was take a 1024x768 screen of a gme and expand it to 1680x1050 using Paint just to see how full screen stretching would work approximately in VX2025WM playing older games like Mafia.

Teto
11-11-2006, 10:18 AM
That's it! Parsonas pics convinced me to try one of these out.
Thanks Parsona for the sweeeeet looking pics. :D

Alucard IX
11-11-2006, 11:09 AM
I can agree that the pictures look good and it's hard to tell them apart from the untstretched ones besides the different aspect ratio. But in reality the stretched picture won't be near as sharp as the native resoluiton. So I wouldn't make up my mind just from seeing them. They really don't say anything about how it will look in real life.

Edit: Spelling.

clockworks
11-11-2006, 01:12 PM
I wish my VX2025's DVI hadn't died out within a few weeks of use. This is the second Viewsonic product that screwed me over within the past year. Poopy.

Booker
11-11-2006, 03:46 PM
wow that sucks!!!

clockworks
11-11-2006, 10:32 PM
wow that sucks!!!

That it does. Unfortunately, it happened to many people so far, search online for VX2025 DVI and you will several people complaining about it. This forum also has some people that were hit by it.

FiZ
11-11-2006, 11:14 PM
If there is one thing I don't like about my 2025 is mine will only scale, there is no way to make it display at the resolution I select with black bars or for it to maintain the aspect ratio. I wish there was a way to update the firmware on my model to enable it to do this :mad: .

Booker
11-12-2006, 03:26 AM
If there is one thing I don't like about my 2025 is mine will only scale, there is no way to make it display at the resolution I select with black bars or for it to maintain the aspect ratio. I wish there was a way to update the firmware on my model to enable it to do this :mad: .

I know some people were able to do this.
On my case i was able to do 1280x720 1:1 scaling
But when i tried any 4:3 resolution it stretch the whole image.

Booker
11-12-2006, 03:26 AM
That it does. Unfortunately, it happened to many people so far, search online for VX2025 DVI and you will several people complaining about it. This forum also has some people that were hit by it.

Lucky we have 3 years warranty by viewsonic :)

clockworks
11-12-2006, 08:27 AM
Lucky we have 3 years warranty by viewsonic :)

I'm going to see how good they are about it. I'll send my monitor in at the end of the month and see if they will fix it. I hope I don't have to pay for shipping.

Booker
11-12-2006, 04:37 PM
I'm going to see how good they are about it. I'll send my monitor in at the end of the month and see if they will fix it. I hope I don't have to pay for shipping.

ok.. let us know :)

by the way, i was playing around with the image scaling.. and i found my monitor does 1:1 pixel only on widescreen resolutions.

1280x720
1280x768
1440x900

but when i try any 4:3 aspec ratio... it strech the image to fullscreen.

Any idea why i can do 1:1 only with widescreen while on 4:3 donīt work?

Is useless as this, since i only want to do 1:1 on 4:3 aspect ratio...

Booker
11-14-2006, 09:15 AM
ok.. let us know :)

by the way, i was playing around with the image scaling.. and i found my monitor does 1:1 pixel only on widescreen resolutions.

1280x720
1280x768
1440x900

but when i try any 4:3 aspec ratio... it strech the image to fullscreen.

Any idea why i can do 1:1 only with widescreen while on 4:3 donīt work?

Is useless as this, since i only want to do 1:1 on 4:3 aspect ratio...

Any theory why widescreen resolutions are 1:1 image scaling while 4:3 are streched?

Alucard IX
11-14-2006, 01:38 PM
ok.. let us know :)

by the way, i was playing around with the image scaling.. and i found my monitor does 1:1 pixel only on widescreen resolutions.

1280x720
1280x768
1440x900...

On these resolutions I get black borders under and on top but not on the sides :(

What firmware does your screen have?

Booker
11-14-2006, 09:31 PM
On these resolutions I get black borders under and on top but not on the sides :(

What firmware does your screen have?
Weird.... how do i find my firmware?

let me know and iīll post it.

parsona
11-15-2006, 02:35 AM
Look a few pages back, someone described how. What version of forceware are you using?

Alucard IX
11-15-2006, 07:52 AM
Weird.... how do i find my firmware?

let me know and iīll post it.
Power up the monitor while holding button 2. Then go to the "F" option in the screen menu.
Mine is v1.0.

Note: I have an ATI x1900. So it may handle the scaling differently than an Nvidia card.
I think ATI has the most problems with this monitor actually. :(
If someone can run 1:1 on their ati, please report it and which firmware version you have.
I hope they've fixed the scaling in the more recent versions, or that they will in the future.

Booker
11-15-2006, 10:30 PM
Does anyone try the 6.11 dirvers to see if the image scaling is fixed on the ATI videocards?

Alucard IX
11-16-2006, 06:26 AM
Does anyone try the 6.11 dirvers to see if the image scaling is fixed on the ATI videocards?
I highly doubt that :(, but I'll give it a shot.

Alucard IX
11-16-2006, 06:51 AM
I highly doubt that :(, but I'll give it a shot.
Nope, it doesn't work.

Teto
11-16-2006, 09:05 AM
I can agree that the pictures look good and it's hard to tell them apart from the untstretched ones besides the different aspect ratio. But in reality the stretched picture won't be near as sharp as the native resoluiton. So I wouldn't make up my mind just from seeing them. They really don't say anything about how it will look in real life.

Edit: Spelling.

I'm not making my decision just after looking at the previous screens ofcourse. I've been reading this whole post from start so I am pretty aware of all the issues with this LCD.
The thing I got so happy about is that there finally is a way to use 4:3aspect ratio with black bars on the side on this screen for 79xx users.

But if you know a widescreen which can use 4:3 ratio with black bars that will look charper then the VX2025wm in that mode and at the same time have all the other qualitys of this screen then please tell me. I've been looking for a good allround screen for months now. :)

I don't want to have the picture streched. It just looks uggly. What I want is to be able to have a nonstreched 4:3 resolution with black bars on the side when I'm playing older games. And a nonstreched 16:10 wide resolution when using new games and programs that can use 16:10 aspect ratio. When using 16:10 I'm always gonna use the native resolution ofcourse. And those pictures show that it works right? Even for a GeForce 79xx user. I know that the low resolution 4:3 picture probably will not be as charp as the native 16:10 resolution but it is far better to have the picture scaled right than have it streched out even if will looks less charp.

Another thing I would like to know is if VX2025wm users with newer production dates also have encountered the "dead DVI connection" problem?

Cheers! :D

Teto
11-16-2006, 09:28 AM
Just my thoughts about these screens.
These screens are taken by Parsona who found out a way to make the 4:3 scaling work. I hope you don't mind me using them again. :)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7118/hl1024centrelargelm3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024centrelargelm3.jpg)
GREAT! It workes for 79xx users!

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Streched
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8861/hl1024scaledlargemd9.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024scaledlargemd9.jpg)
This is just uggly! Chubby girl! This I don't want for my older games.

Episode 1 @ 1680x1050 full sweet res
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/48/hl1680fulllargeah5.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1680fulllargeah5.jpg)
Why don't all games support 16:10 res! *cry* This is so sweet looking.

Was this problem solved with just using the right forceware or did it have to be a VX2025wm with a newer productiondate to make this work?

Cheers! :D

Booker
11-16-2006, 10:25 AM
Just my thoughts about these screens.
These screens are taken by Parsona who found out a way to make the 4:3 scaling work. I hope you don't mind me using them again. :)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7118/hl1024centrelargelm3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024centrelargelm3.jpg)
GREAT! It workes for 79xx users!

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Streched
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8861/hl1024scaledlargemd9.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024scaledlargemd9.jpg)
This is just uggly! Chubby girl! This I don't want for my older games.

Episode 1 @ 1680x1050 full sweet res
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/48/hl1680fulllargeah5.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1680fulllargeah5.jpg)
Why don't all games support 16:10 res! *cry* This is so sweet looking.

Was this problem solved with just using the right forceware or did it have to be a VX2025wm with a newer productiondate to make this work?

Cheers! :D

My bad (i canīt find the delete button on the edit menu)

Booker
11-16-2006, 10:28 AM
Desktop @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/9342/desktop1024centrelargerm6.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop1024centrelargerm6.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7118/hl1024centrelargelm3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024centrelargelm3.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Streched
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8861/hl1024scaledlargemd9.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024scaledlargemd9.jpg)

Episode 1 @ 1680x1050 full sweet res
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/48/hl1680fulllargeah5.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1680fulllargeah5.jpg)

BTW Mr Zodiac, a screencap using fraps or printscreen wont work in showing you the scaling quality coz you will just see a normal 1024x768 screenshot, not a streched one.

How did you do this?.... did you use any special software or what?

Ohh.... nevermind... those screens shows he have an NVidia card.. not ATI :(

Alucard IX
11-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Another thing I would like to know is if VX2025wm users with newer production dates also have encountered the "dead DVI connection" problem?
The DVI issue is easily fixed, I got it once myself. Just unplug the power cord and press the power button to drain the remaining electricity out of your screen. Put the cord back in and it will work. It did for me anyway.

shijtin
11-23-2006, 12:55 PM
Same scaling problem here, it works with a GeForce 6200 but not with a GeForce 7600 GS.

I tried scaling with the 7600 under linux (nvidia driver 9629) and it worked like a charm.

LostHere
11-23-2006, 05:05 PM
Just my thoughts about these screens.
These screens are taken by Parsona who found out a way to make the 4:3 scaling work. I hope you don't mind me using them again. :)

Episode 1 @ 1024x768 Centred
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7118/hl1024centrelargelm3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl1024centrelargelm3.jpg)
GREAT! It workes for 79xx users!


I think Parsona uses 7900GS right? I think that's different from 7900GT. I heard 7900GS can scale a couple months back, and haven't heard much improvement for 7900GT... :(

Blue Falcon
11-23-2006, 07:41 PM
I think Parsona uses 7900GS right? I think that's different from 7900GT. I heard 7900GS can scale a couple months back, and haven't heard much improvement for 7900GT... :(


Every card I've tried sofar doesn't work... 7600GT, 7900GT, 7900GS, X1950XTX, and even my new 8800GTS... none of the driver scaling options work properly.

FrankBlack
11-24-2006, 12:54 PM
Hi, I've been using this monitor since the summer and have been very pleased with it's performance.
However I am thinking of getting an Xbox 360 and wondered whether it would be worth hooking up to the Viewsonic with a vga cable ?
I would also like to know what settings to use and if it can run in full screen ? I was checking out the spec sheet that came with the monitor and there is a 720p mode listed on there so I assume it would run in full screen.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9335/specsni6.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=specsni6.jpg)

I knoew this may have been asked before but at 81 pages this thread is a lot to take in.
Thanks for any help/advice guys.

Alucard IX
11-25-2006, 02:57 PM
The problem we are having is that whatever signal we feed the screen with it always stretches the picture to fill the whole screen, no option to output an 1:1 signal properly.
So yea, full-screen won't be a problem as it's the only mode this screen seem to be good at outputting (as no other option is available). :/

themulf
11-26-2006, 02:39 AM
Yes, it works fine with the XBOX 360 and the VGA cable kit. I'll post pictures when i get a chance.

Blue Falcon
11-27-2006, 02:54 AM
Well after going on almost 6 months with no issues whatsoever I finally got my first taste of the infamous DVI bug I think. I had to disconnect the monitor from my PC to move it and when I reconnected it and powered everything up the VX2025WM stayed in a sleep state with orange LED. No amount of switching outputs on my video card would work.

Only after I unplugged the power to the VX2025WM for 10 seconds or so did it return to operating normally.


Let's hope that's only a 'glitch' and not a symptom of impending failure. :eek:

Booker
11-27-2006, 08:22 AM
Well after going on almost 6 months with no issues whatsoever I finally got my first taste of the infamous DVI bug I think. I had to disconnect the monitor from my PC to move it and when I reconnected it and powered everything up the VX2025WM stayed in a sleep state with orange LED. No amount of switching outputs on my video card would work.

Only after I unplugged the power to the VX2025WM for 10 seconds or so did it return to operating normally.


Let's hope that's only a 'glitch' and not a symptom of impending failure. :eek:

Ouch!...

FrankBlack
12-04-2006, 01:52 PM
When I set the 360's resolution to 1280x720 it chops off a bit of the right hand side of the screen, I don't know why.
I set it to 1280x768 it fits the screen just about right.

Dan_D
12-04-2006, 02:04 PM
I can tell you from experience that the DVI bug sucks.

Blue Falcon
12-04-2006, 03:26 PM
I can tell you from experience that the DVI bug sucks.


Luckily I havent seen a trace of it again since I last posted about it. I'm hoping it's just a quirk in my unit and not a sign of worse things to come.

Aside from that experience I friggin' love this monitor. 8 months after purchasing it still impresses me. :)

1:1 scaling would be nice... but whaddaya gonna do? :p

vags
12-05-2006, 04:22 AM
I bought it (VX2025) before 3 months and every day i had the same problem no signal reboot & reboot to communicate the computer with the monitor. I gave it back to the service and immediately give me one other and i had the same problem, are all problematics with the dvi. At last i communicate with the company that i bought and took it back and today i am receiving one eizo s2110 expensive but its sure. Greetings from Athens Greece. Vags

cybertron
12-05-2006, 11:10 PM
I'm not totally sure what bug you guys are talking about as i dont have time right now to read the thread, but I figured i would throw my experience out there.

About a month ago I bought 2 Ergotron Arms for my 2 VX2025wm monitors and mounted them up just fine. After this, 1 of the monitors quick working. It would power on but it would not get a signal from the DVI port no matter what I did. I even swapped video cards thinking that was the problem. Well I called up view sonic to get an RMA setup... I explain I need it to be an advance replacement and that I dont mind putting up my credit card. She says ok and that i need to fax in my receipt etc, etc. Between my initial call and faxing the receipt, I decided to call back and ask if i can just email the receipt, and the (same)lady says no. She then asks me if i'm the one with a DVI issue, and I say yes. She puts me on hold for a few minutes and comes back and says... I think your DVI port is just closed. Closed?!? I say. Yeah, we just need to open it back up, she says.

At this point i'm totally confused cause she could have done all this the first go around, thankfully i called back.

Anyways, she makes me get out both VGA and DVI cable and connect them, then tells me to plug them both into the computer (I just used a DVI-to-VGA converter for the VGA cable, (I have a dual dvi card) and I think she had me unplug the power, wait a minute and then plug it back in and power up the computer. computer boots completely and she says, ok should be fixed. So i disconnect the VGA and reboot... sure as shit, its fixed.

I may have missed a step in there, but at least you guys can ask about this procedure in the future.


Other that this little snafu, I'm EXTREMELY happy with my monitors. My friend came other the other day and was like...ooh my Dell 2005FPW is brighter than that.... but honestly, I dont think you can beat the price of these with a stick. I got mine 6 months ago from J&R when they were $300 AR. I think they are still right around that price?

Cannydog
12-06-2006, 12:23 AM
It's been about 9 months since I got mine. At first I was using an Nvidia card and I had one instance the first night of the DVI input shutting off, and not wanting to work properly. Soon afterward I switched to an ATI graphics card. I've never had a bit of trouble since.

I realize that this thread is difficult to find information in. Clearly, though, this issue is a result of how Nvidia's drivers shuts the monitor down. For the short time I used this display with an Nvidia graphics card I disabled all power saving features; no blank screen, no powering off the monitor via software.

It's sad that Nvidia and Viewsonic haven't figured this out by now. But unfortunately you will have to be the ones to deal with it. So your choices are: disable power management, or buy an ATI graphics card. I personally had other issues that led me to abandon all Nvidia products. The only issue I had with this display that I couldn't resolve was fixed aspect ratio scaling. I finally found a VX922 for a dirt cheap price, and the two displays compliment each other nicely. The bottom line is that this monitor (the VX2025wm) is superb, as long as you don't have an Nvidia video card.

Blue Falcon
12-06-2006, 08:40 AM
That's a hell of a generalization to make. People have had the same issue with ATI cards and the VX2025WM...

Cannydog
12-07-2006, 12:52 PM
That's a hell of a generalization to make. People have had the same issue with ATI cards and the VX2025WM...

Generalization? Those are conclusions drawn from my experience and the experience of others who have posted to this thread. I use this Viewsonic display every day. And if "people" are having the same issue with ATI cards and the VX2025wm, why haven't I had that issue even once? I have had a similar issue with Vista beta drivers, those that came loaded with Vista. But I haven't had ANY issues at all with ATI's WinXP drivers, that are remotely the same. Specifically, the issue I have had (that others are having) is that ATI's drivers don't do a fixed aspect ratio scaling on this monitor.

My guess is that you might be.... No I'll just withhold my comments and let others draw their own conclusions. Have a Good Day!

Lawdog
12-07-2006, 01:48 PM
Clearly, though, this issue is a result of how Nvidia's drivers shuts the monitor down. For the short time I used this display with an Nvidia graphics card I disabled all power saving features; no blank screen, no powering off the monitor via software.

I've been running this monitor with an Nvidia 7800GS trouble-free for a few months. Recently, however, I've been experiencing random crashes or refusal to wake up the monitor from standby. I wonder if this is a similar driver issue.

Can you explain how you disabled the power saving features? I've had them off within the XP control panel already. Is there a separate setting within the Nvidia control panel that I should also be checking? Thanks.

Occidio
12-07-2006, 04:21 PM
Wierd, I have a 7800GTX and have both my VX2025 and my VX924 both dvi plugged in and I have never had one issue with either monitor. Granted I dont use things like safemode, hibernation and ussually I just turn my monitors off when I go to bed. If I do use a screen save it has been blank or my pictures slideshow. I dont have any power settings to turn monitors off.

Cannydog
12-08-2006, 01:36 PM
...<snip>... I just turn my monitors off when I go to bed. If I do use a screen save it has been blank or my pictures slideshow. I dont have any power settings to turn monitors off.

That's exactly what I did until I chose to switch video cards (but that decision was not directly related).

FrankBlack
12-09-2006, 12:37 PM
I sorted out my problem mentiond earlier by setting the 360's output to 1280x720 and then using the monitors auto image adjust feature. It now fits the screen perfectly and looks great.

Gamefreak99
12-10-2006, 01:41 PM
The Egg seems to be sold out of these... but they do have the VG2030WM in stock. Is the VG comparable to the VX? Any real differences for the better or worse?


Cheers!
/happy vp171b owner looking to upgrade

Edit: Oh and would it be worth another $50 on top to grab the 22" version instead?

Gatecrasher3
12-10-2006, 05:24 PM
has anyone connected a ps3 or a wii to this screen yet?
i want to get a ps3 or wii and hook it up to this monitor (i own one), but i would like to have an idea of what it would look like before i do. has anyone tried it yet?

tpfaff
12-11-2006, 01:34 AM
is their an updated version of this soon or would it be safe to buy this after christmas :D

TechHead
12-11-2006, 08:22 AM
The Egg seems to be sold out of these... but they do have the VG2030WM in stock. Is the VG comparable to the VX? Any real differences for the better or worse?


Cheers!
/happy vp171b owner looking to upgrade

Edit: Oh and would it be worth another $50 on top to grab the 22" version instead?Differences for the worse, I'm afraid. The newer monitors all use TN panels, which aren't as good as the S-PVA on the VX2025wm.

tpfaff
12-12-2006, 02:13 AM
bump

TechHead
12-12-2006, 10:00 AM
[QUOTE=tpfaff]bump[/QUOTE
Buy it ASAP.. it's getting phased out in favour of TN-based panels..

HeyYoWL
12-12-2006, 09:52 PM
@Gatecrasher3

Yeah I tried connecting with my it using component cables, and a component to VGA adapter for the monitor, since the VGA port wasn't being used. And damn do I regret it. It plugged in fine, but 1st of all, everything looks green, I think it has to do with the Sync on Green thing on the monitor. But worst of all, at first at least the monitor worked properly, but now my DVI input on the monitor doesn't even work! It's ridiculous and now I have to send it in to Viewsonic to get it fixed! Until someone finds a way to prevent this from happening I don't think I can recommend it for Wii at least. PS2 at least has HDMI out and you can get a HDMI to DVI converter easily.

Alucard IX
12-13-2006, 03:21 AM
@Gatecrasher3

Yeah I tried connecting with my it using component cables, and a component to VGA adapter for the monitor, since the VGA port wasn't being used. And damn do I regret it. It plugged in fine, but 1st of all, everything looks green, I think it has to do with the Sync on Green thing on the monitor. But worst of all, at first at least the monitor worked properly, but now my DVI input on the monitor doesn't even work! It's ridiculous and now I have to send it in to Viewsonic to get it fixed! Until someone finds a way to prevent this from happening I don't think I can recommend it for Wii at least. PS2 at least has HDMI out and you can get a HDMI to DVI converter easily.
Try to unplug the power cord, and than press the power button to drain the remaining electricity from the screen. That will usually solve the dvi bug. It did for me anyway.

Jolly
12-15-2006, 01:18 PM
xxx

j3ffry
01-22-2007, 12:35 AM
After using this LCD for 3 hrs it will just turn off and on repeatedly... What could be the cause? Is my LCD beginning to die?

Help please?

Blue Falcon
01-22-2007, 12:54 AM
After using this LCD for 3 hrs it will just turn off and on repeatedly... What could be the cause? Is my LCD beginning to die?

Help please?


Tried using it on a different PC?

If so, and it still does it, then the answer to your question is "yes".

j3ffry
01-22-2007, 02:53 AM
I hope not.. I dont have any PC to try it.. But I hope. big time that wont happen!

zilverhawk
01-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Hello.

I just bought this monitor :) (my first lcd ever:eek: ) and i would like to know if the red tint issue that someone experienced a few pages back is when looking directly at the screen or at an angle?
I'm asking because when i look at the screen at an angle, at a white background; i believe i can see a little bit of red (just a little) on the entire screen but that happens only when looking at an angle otherwise the image quality is amazing.

I would appreciate if someone could provide any information.

Thanks.

zilverhawk
01-24-2007, 04:02 PM
Hello.

I just bought this monitor :) (my first lcd ever:eek: ) and i would like to know if the red tint issue that someone experienced a few pages back is when looking directly at the screen or at an angle?
I'm asking because when i look at the screen at an angle, at a white background; i believe i can see a little bit of red (just a little) on the entire screen but that happens only when looking at an angle otherwise the image quality is amazing.

I would appreciate if someone could provide any information.

Thanks.

bump.

Anyone?

Thanks.

HRP
01-24-2007, 08:13 PM
Dang.

I was thinking of ordering one of these for my new desktop, but it's looking like a lot of people are having problems with them!

Anybody care to make a suggestion for another 20-20.1" widescreen LCD monitor?

|Tch0rT|
01-24-2007, 09:08 PM
I've had mine for about a week or so. No problems at all. It's awsome. =D

Ryan

Blue Falcon
01-24-2007, 11:10 PM
Dang.

I was thinking of ordering one of these for my new desktop, but it's looking like a lot of people are having problems with them!

Anybody care to make a suggestion for another 20-20.1" widescreen LCD monitor?

People rarely hop on a message board to talk about how well their product is working, rather most of what you see will be complaints. The vast majority of people who own this monitor are perfectly happy.

I know I am. I have had this thing for close to 8 months now and it's quite simply awesome. :)

HRP
01-24-2007, 11:38 PM
Well that's good to hear.

I'm surprised the monitor doesn't just add a couple black bars to the sides of the screen when running in 4:3. It's quite annoying that it stretches it...

Mysticode
01-24-2007, 11:42 PM
It's a midrange monitor, they don't usually come with 1:1 pixel mapping (most usually saved for high-end monitors).

HRP
01-24-2007, 11:46 PM
Kinda sad that $370 is midrange :/

alexheinz
01-25-2007, 01:25 AM
Does anyone have the ViewSonic VX2035WM? I'm thinking of picking one up but I really haven't heard much about it.

Blue Falcon
01-25-2007, 01:37 AM
Does anyone have the ViewSonic VX2035WM? I'm thinking of picking one up but I really haven't heard much about it.

From what I've read the VX2035WM is actually inferior to the VX2025WM, it uses a TN panel which has poorer viewing angles.

lackofcheese
01-25-2007, 02:18 AM
Here's an interesting issue with this monitor I hadn't seen elsewhere, but there were a few people in this thread who had it:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=667210&p=1

Jarrett
01-28-2007, 12:22 PM
Yea, you better grab the 2025 while you still can. The 2035 just has some Vista nonsense, but it is 6-bit and TN panel (at the same price?!).

FlyingPJ
01-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Yea, you better grab the 2025 while you still can. The 2035 just has some Vista nonsense, but it is 6-bit and TN panel (at the same price?!).

I concur, this is an excellent monitor. Sad that the 2025 is going to be phased out in favor of the 2035.

reins
01-29-2007, 12:41 AM
Hmm was going to wait until I up graded to a new video card but you guy's are making me feel as though I should jump on this now.

Even after a year though, would you still say that this is the best widescreen monitor in the 200-300 range? Are there better buy's out there or soon to come out?

Derfman
01-29-2007, 02:45 AM
I have had this monitor for over 6 months now... Soon to be getting a second monitor of a larger size / resolution... But regardless, I made my decision to buy this monitor then, based off of the information in this thread... I don't regret my decision, it has allowed me to enjoy things in such a vibrant light... I use a TN Panel monitor at work, for me it is noticeable difference in quality.. (I bring my comp to work for down time its a M-ATX so its portable).. So its the same computer I am using for comparison's sake... TN Panels aren't horrid, but much dimmer in color vibrance, it doesn't feel like anything is reaching out to me when I game on it... Where this Viewsonic 2025 makes me feel like I am being washed in heaven's rays of glory and quality...

Worth every penny!

AlphexHunter
01-29-2007, 04:48 PM
I have had this monitor for over 6 months now... Soon to be getting a second monitor of a larger size / resolution... But regardless, I made my decision to buy this monitor then, based off of the information in this thread... I don't regret my decision, it has allowed me to enjoy things in such a vibrant light... I use a TN Panel monitor at work, for me it is noticeable difference in quality.. (I bring my comp to work for down time its a M-ATX so its portable).. So its the same computer I am using for comparison's sake... TN Panels aren't horrid, but much dimmer in color vibrance, it doesn't feel like anything is reaching out to me when I game on it... Where this Viewsonic 2025 makes me feel like I am being washed in heaven's rays of glory and quality...

Worth every penny!


Exacltly like me! I love this monitor and I will too upgrade to a bigger monitor Dell 2407. But I do not regret one thing about this monitor it does everything it says and more. I will be using my monitor as a TV beside my 24" and for mayby for my xbox 360 too.

CptStern
01-30-2007, 11:30 PM
From what I've read the VX2035WM is actually inferior to the VX2025WM, it uses a TN panel which has poorer viewing angles.

I've heard that as well but cant confirm it ..viewsonic says both the VX2025WM and the VX2035 have the same panel type:

LCD Panel Type 20.1" Wide Color TFT Active Matrix LCD

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx2035wm/
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx2025wm/

can someone confirm this? cant find the VX2025 anywhere so my decision to buy the VX2035 hinges on the panel type

lackofcheese
01-31-2007, 07:18 AM
On the 2035, from ViewSonic's specs:-
Viewing Angle 160° horizontal, 160° vertical @ contrast ratio > 10:1

C'mon, since when is that anything but TN?

|Tch0rT|
01-31-2007, 07:54 AM
cant find the VX2025 anywhere so my decision to buy the VX2035 hinges on the panel type

Here's where you can order a VX2025WM:

http://www.legendmicro.com/store/more_info.asp?OpenTreeBranches=&Product_ID=4217&Category_ID=63

I bought mine from there and got it in 2 days. Works great, no dead pixels. I love this monitor. =D

reins
01-31-2007, 04:18 PM
nice deal, I'll check it out. This deal may be the one..

kmrivers
02-02-2007, 01:52 PM
I got a better deal. Mwave had it for $185 + shipping. I think I bought the last one. But keep checking back. It was just a hair over $200 with shipping! :D :cool:

Alucard IX
02-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Wow that's a bargain. This screen is much more expensive in Europe. I bought my from the cheapest place I could find, a store in France (I live in Sweden) for around 4000kr (sek) + shipping, I think. That's equal to $570.
And I'm very happy with mine even for that price.

ItsSoLARGE
02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
I know this isn't the right place for this, but I was just wondering if anyone is looking to pick up one of these. I'm looking to sell mine because I really really am missing HDCP support.

I got a PS3 but no HDCP, so I'm stuck with my SDTV. Anyways send me a PM.

MrSuge
03-01-2007, 03:03 AM
my local circuit city is selling the 2025 for $299 in nothern virginia.

if you live around here check it out. only one of two circuit citys selling them in VA (dude checked the database :confused: )

spincut
03-01-2007, 06:01 AM
so, why did they discontinue (it's discontinued right?) the 2025 and then replace it with a TN model as an upgrade?

you'd think they'd just upgrade the MVA panel to a better one if they were upgrading the model.

and now that you mention it you dont see alot of MVA paneled monitors out there (not even sure exactly of its pros and cons), wonder why they chose that one, it does seem like a more premium technology.

a friend of my owns one, it looks good and is probably the one 20" widescreen that seems to have almost zero "controversy" and unlike the NEC is actually affordable, so the fact that it's discontinued is...well....it's as if fate is conspiring against me in every way on this issue.

HappyPlato
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Yesterday, I started playing Titan Quest. The colour look a bit off, the white wash out other colors.

Did anyone did a colour calibration? Care to share your calibrated custom colour settings?

Thanks.

HighTest
03-02-2007, 01:28 PM
The VX2025wm also DOES NOT have HDCP complance. No big deal for me since I don't care about HD or Blue ray playing on my PC but your demands may vary.

Here's a list of what monitors from ViewSonic are HDCP.

http://www.viewsonic.com/newsletter0307/whatsnew.htm

mitchepa12
03-02-2007, 07:01 PM
Yesterday, I started playing Titan Quest. The colour look a bit off, the white wash out other colors.

Did anyone did a colour calibration? Care to share your calibrated custom colour settings?

Thanks.

Hey all, I just had my friend come over who has an eye-one xt calibrator, we tinkered around for about half an hour and I think we managed to get the colors close to perfect so here are the settings.

Red 95
Green 95
Blue 97

Contrast 74
Brightness 54

You will also need to download and use this icc color profile, then you colors should look pretty close to perfect, of course every monitor is different so your mileage may vary.

Heres the link to the file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/19104636/Monitor_3-1-07_pro.icc.html
Btw this profile was made for a mac, so im not sure how to use it on a windows box
The gamma is also set at 2.2 the pc standard and where it should be for color accurate photo editing.

Hope this helps

--Paul

Zucharn
03-03-2007, 10:48 AM
I just got this monitor, it was $200 off of ubid. It's awesome in comparison to my budget CRT, the only downside is that I found out it was factory refurbished by looking at the packing slip. It's more of a complaint about ubid though, that they didn't mention it was a refurbished monitor. Very nice monitor.

HappyPlato
03-04-2007, 02:26 AM
Hi Paul,

Thanks for the settings. I'll give it a go.

HappyPlato
03-04-2007, 08:09 PM
Yep, the following settings did a great job with Titan Quest, at least for me. I can a difference, for the better. I am happy now, so I don't need to bring out my 19" CRT. Once again, thank you!

Hey all, I just had my friend come over who has an eye-one xt calibrator, we tinkered around for about half an hour and I think we managed to get the colors close to perfect so here are the settings.

Red 95
Green 95
Blue 97

Contrast 74
Brightness 54

You will also need to download and use this icc color profile, then you colors should look pretty close to perfect, of course every monitor is different so your mileage may vary.

Heres the link to the file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/19104636/Monitor_3-1-07_pro.icc.html
Btw this profile was made for a mac, so im not sure how to use it on a windows box
The gamma is also set at 2.2 the pc standard and where it should be for color accurate photo editing.

Hope this helps

--Paul

mitchepa12
03-05-2007, 02:35 AM
Glad I could help,

Out of interest were you using a mac or pc with the icc color profile? If you were using a pc was it difficult to set up?

Cdawg9999
03-05-2007, 03:55 AM
Here's a list of what monitors from ViewSonic are HDCP.

http://www.viewsonic.com/newsletter0307/whatsnew.htm

im looking for HDCP support with anything better then TN panel! can anyone find me a good panel with HDCP plz

HappyPlato
03-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I'm using it on a PC. Since I had Adobe stuff installed, there is an Adobe Gamma icon in the Control Panel, where I load up the color profile. It maybe a problem if you don't have Adobe stuff?

Glad I could help,

Out of interest were you using a mac or pc with the icc color profile? If you were using a pc was it difficult to set up?

Cdawg9999
03-09-2007, 10:01 AM
Did any one hooked this monitor with PS3, if yes hows the display and graphics! im going to buy this monitor so plz answer my question.

ItsSoLARGE
03-09-2007, 10:38 AM
I tried hooking mine up with a HDMI > DVI but I just get a black screen. I guess the PS3 needs HDCP for the XMB and games too.

Cdawg9999
03-09-2007, 03:04 PM
how abt Xbox360 and PS2 do they display on Viewsonic vx2025wm ?

HappyPlato
03-09-2007, 05:56 PM
I tried hooking mine up with a HDMI > DVI but I just get a black screen. I guess the PS3 needs HDCP for the XMB and games too.

HDCP is only required for playing blue-ray, in 1080p. This lcd can't display 1080p.

1) Did you set PS3 to 720p?
2) Is the lcd on the right source? DVI, not BNC?

Alucard IX
03-15-2007, 07:52 PM
I tried hooking mine up with a HDMI > DVI but I just get a black screen. I guess the PS3 needs HDCP for the XMB and games too.
Have you tried to hold down the power button until the unit beeps two times? This will make the unit search for compatible video modes.

ItsSoLARGE
03-15-2007, 10:44 PM
Yeah I tried that.

MrSloppy
03-19-2007, 03:31 PM
I've tried every store, online and otherwise, that I know of in the Greater Toronto Area but I haven't found any store that still has stock of this monitor. Does anyone know of any other methods of getting this monitor besides eBay?

HappyPlato
03-20-2007, 01:50 PM
I've tried every store, online and otherwise, that I know of in the Greater Toronto Area but I haven't found any store that still has stock of this monitor. Does anyone know of any other methods of getting this monitor besides eBay?

I got it at www.bcom.ab.ca, $299.

Blue Falcon
03-20-2007, 05:11 PM
I've tried every store, online and otherwise, that I know of in the Greater Toronto Area but I haven't found any store that still has stock of this monitor. Does anyone know of any other methods of getting this monitor besides eBay?

Newegg has some open box monitors for like $210 + $20 shipping, but I would be really hesitant about buying open box LCDs from Newegg. You're sure to get the ones with dead pixels or other problems that people have returned...

ahmadmz
04-24-2007, 10:14 PM
I'm using it on a PC. Since I had Adobe stuff installed, there is an Adobe Gamma icon in the Control Panel, where I load up the color profile. It maybe a problem if you don't have Adobe stuff?

Hi, how did u apply these settings in PC ? When i load the profile, i cant change the brightness/contrast sliders. So the colors are all messed up.

Vashypooh
04-26-2007, 07:19 PM
I have had this monitor for quite awhile and just recently noticed an issue with it.

In my lower right corner there is like a grey spot. It isnt a dead pixel or anything. If you touch the screen to where the pixels react, you can see the spot is actually behind it... Like somehow dust got behind it. How exactly should I fix this, It is under warranty but im scared i would recieve the lower 2035 instead of what I paid for.

Jarrett
04-26-2007, 08:23 PM
Wow mine was pretty close!

Contrast 69
Brightness 50

I'll give that ICC a try.....

Blauman
04-27-2007, 11:50 AM
I have had this monitor for quite awhile and just recently noticed an issue with it.

In my lower right corner there is like a grey spot. It isnt a dead pixel or anything. If you touch the screen to where the pixels react, you can see the spot is actually behind it... Like somehow dust got behind it. How exactly should I fix this, It is under warranty but im scared i would recieve the lower 2035 instead of what I paid for.

If this is what I think you are seeing it kind of looks like a little tear almost. If that is it you may want to try setting an all white background for your wallpaper and leave it that way for a few hours or even over night if possible. Sometime pixels get stuck and can look weird and setting a uniform background color can fix it. Give that a try and see if it fixes it.

Vashypooh
04-27-2007, 03:04 PM
doing that now, however I really dont believe its a pixel issue. I really believe that it is just something behind the screen because of how it moves when you turn to different angels, but maybe you are right. Certainly hope you are. Like if you put the mouse cursor in vista to where it is inside the center of the cursor. and then move your head to the other side, looking at it from left, its outside of the cursor. Its really weird. My room does get very dusty, so thats why I believe that it is just dust behind the screen somehow. you can even tell if you put the mouse next to it on this white background that it is behind the cursor. It is not on the same level.

Jarrett
04-28-2007, 09:31 PM
Yep, the following settings did a great job with Titan Quest, at least for me. I can a difference, for the better. I am happy now, so I don't need to bring out my 19" CRT. Once again, thank you!

Hey I noticed that if I adjust the RGB like you had it it looks noticeably less "true" to white. This could be due to me not using the ICC. I checked a couple scenes in 2001 A Space Odyssey where the spacecraft is obviously supposed to be white.

ochentay4
07-31-2007, 10:49 PM
@Gatecrasher3

Yeah I tried connecting with my it using component cables, and a component to VGA adapter for the monitor, since the VGA port wasn't being used. And damn do I regret it. It plugged in fine, but 1st of all, everything looks green, I think it has to do with the Sync on Green thing on the monitor. But worst of all, at first at least the monitor worked properly, but now my DVI input on the monitor doesn't even work! It's ridiculous and now I have to send it in to Viewsonic to get it fixed! Until someone finds a way to prevent this from happening I don't think I can recommend it for Wii at least. PS2 at least has HDMI out and you can get a HDMI to DVI converter easily.

I confirm that this monitor has SYNC ON GREEN because i connected my xbox1 with a vga cable made by hand hoping that my monitor is SOG and it is.
when set to 480p wide is looks really bad, but when it is in 720p, like mortal kombat armageddon, soul calibur 2 or XMBC it looks awesome but the screen is not centered.
im buying a xbox360elite and i will connect it with a hdmi-dvi cable and will post some pics in 720p. im sure it will kick ass.
on thing more, this monitor, at least IN VISTA, with drivers 162.22 and my 7600gt NO SCALING option in control panel works, but 168.18 in xp DOESNT. so its a driver problem.

Sooo FACTS about Viewsonic VX2025wm:
-It is Sync On Green.
-NO SCALING option in NVIDIA control panel WORKS in VISTA with 162.22 WHQL drivers.
-NO SCALING option in NVIDIA control panel DOESNT in XP with 162.18 WHQL drivers.
-720p in VGA works WONDERFULL (tested with a xbox1).

ochentay4
08-28-2007, 03:09 PM
Hi, I have a XBOX 360 ELITE and i want to post & show some info I discovered about this monitor!
First, it supports every resolution through HDMI-to-DVI except 1920x1080. I found out that the aspect ratio of those resolutions are way too different than this monitor (16:10) so the best resolution for 1680x1050 would be 1280x768. I'm a bit dissapointed with this monitor. It seems to be blurry with games, specially with games plagued with bloom, I think its because this monitor has a protection layer and it's a little slow.
Well, here are the pics!:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/52/1004032editedia2.jpg

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8070/1004034editedmo4.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8519/1004036editedcj2.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2167/1004038editedxi5.jpg

Thanx!

Genem
11-17-2007, 07:49 PM
Has anyone tried using a PS3 on this thing? I've already tried an Xbox 360 on this, but the PS3 is a mystery. Not as much info available on it, and I tried a search to no avail.

AlphexHunter
11-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I hear ya ochentay4! I've had this money for about 2 years now. It's served me very well for everything! But Now that I find 20" veryyy small and much cheaper monitors that are 21"+ coming out these days with less then 8ms. I think its time to upgrade to something a bid more [H]ard (2407) :D!

noobtech
11-18-2007, 12:58 AM
I hear ya ochentay4! I've had this money for about 2 years now. It's served me very well for everything! But Now that I find 20" veryyy small and much cheaper monitors that are 21"+ coming out these days with less then 8ms. I think its time to upgrade to something a bid more [H]ard (2407) :D!

I agree as well... 20" just seems to be really small these days!! Remember when a 13" crt seemed kinda big? Hmmm... I mean 18" haha... but yeah, even a 30" should be pretty good huh?

ochentay4
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
Hell yeah!:), Im trying to sell it to buy a DELL E248WFPW. I know that its not the best LCD, but its the best I can get in Argentina without getting poor:(. It costs U$S 640 !!! and its the cheapest 24".

Anyway, here comes an update it will rock your socks off :D.

I tried to install Ubuntu 7.10 and the Nvidia Driver, and guess what? yeah, thats right, my DVI connection died !!! :mad:.
I didnt want to believe so I installed openSUSE 10.3, and FEDORA 8, only to get 640x480.
Then, I booted VISTA and XP and DVI was obviously gone. I could see DOS and BIOS even 1280x1024 at SAFE MODE but not 1680x1050. Tried EVEY FKING METHOD ON THE NET, disconnecting, connecting 2 cables, factory mode, unplugging the power... recovery cd... the did not work at all.

I read somewhere that Nvidia drivers on linux MODIFY the EDID data on THIS lcd (why please tell me why!!!) and it corrupts it !!! . So, when I went back to Vista or XP, I could not get image, only this beautiful message: OUT OF RANGE.

Well, after more reading found that Phoenix EDID Designer v1.3 can edit EDIDs, so the problem was getting a good one and flashing it to it. Well, every connection has its own EDID, so, booted with VGA, read the edid, chaged it to DIGITAL and FLASHED IT to EEPROM PORT #2 with PowerStrip v3.75, and it worked. Problem solved.

To sum all:

ViewSonic VX2025wm DVI problem ( EDID corrupted = no 1680x1050 ) SOLUTION :

1. Try every other method before (search the internet) because this is RISKY.
2. Download the following:
- POWERSTRIP v3.75 (http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm) (ITS NOT FREE, BUY IT)
- Phoenix EDID Designer v1.3 (http://www.tucows.com/preview/329441) (IT APPEARS TO BE FREE; TELL ME IF IM WRONG)
3. Conenct VGA Cable, disconnect DVI, start Windows.
4. Read your VGA EDID, change it to DIGITAL, then SAVE IT.
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6567/phoenixediddesignerv13eui0.png
5. Open POWERSTRIP v3.75, go to OPTIONS, then to MONITOR INFORMATION, then to OPTIONS, then UPDATE EDID, then SELECT to update EDID, it will say that there is NO CORRECT EDID, then SCAN BUS, and then FLASH the .DAT file I provided to PORT #2.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/659/viewsonicvx2025wmdviedimk6.png
Well, this is it. It worked for me, I swear I will not test any LINUX distro again with DVI.
I don't know who to HATE. I don't know if its VIEWSONIC, NVIDIA or LINUS fault. I only know this is an absolute HORRID bug that affected A LOT OF PEOPLE.

One thing, the XBOX 360 ELITE apparently DOESN'T NEED TO READ the EDID, because it LITERALLY THROWS the IMAGE over HDMI without detecting the display properties. So I could see a perfect image on ANY resolution Except the last one (1920x1080) that this lcd DOES NOT support EVEN my monitor didn't have a valid EDID.

Well, bye bye!!!:cool:

ONE MORE EXTRA THING: It would be AWESOME that people who has a WORKING DVI CONNECTION (not flashed EDID, only ORIGINAL) post a WORKING EDID file to download (remember to ERASE the SERIAL NUMBER OF YOUR LCD) to COMPARE, because I'm not sure that my solution is perfect because I EXTRACTED IT from the VGA port, and they could not be the same.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3722/phoenixediddesignerv13eji1.png

ochentay4
11-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Has anyone tried using a PS3 on this thing? I've already tried an Xbox 360 on this, but the PS3 is a mystery. Not as much info available on it, and I tried a search to no avail.

this monitor DOESN'T SUPPORT HDCP OVER DVI, so PS3 over DVI on VM2025wm is a dead end.

Genem
11-19-2007, 01:29 AM