Great prices on MP3 players - 2GB Ipod Nano rip-off for only ~$45

[Archaea]

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/streamPortal.php?stream=mp3

Ripped from www.gotapex.com

Shipping is a flat $5.00. Take 10% off anything on the site using coupon code: KZATZP78CG

A 2GB player with fm radio, all mpeg format abilities, rechargable battery, microphone, nice screen etc, for less than 50 bucks when Ipod nano costs 150 is pretty tempting...


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EDIT

I ended up buying the Glacier instead from the same site.......It uses a replaceable nokia cell phone battery and has an external speaker - review on page 2...
pics here

http://www.putfile.com/archaea/images/83471


This is a SWEET unit for 50 bucks...if you are in the market for an mp3 player/fm radio/video player --- DO NOT HESITATE...you will be happy with this unit!

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Coupon Code updated through end of March - KZATZP78CG

[PorkyBubs]

Looks pretty nice to me. I would buy some and sell them ;). But no $

[sabrewolf732]

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0blk1024mp047

lulz, I'd buy that if anyone knew if the company was decent or not :p

[sabrewolf732]

http://www.bizrate.com/ratings_guide/cust_reviews__mid--145052.html

seems mediocre, expect no support if your stuff comes busted.

[i_am_mustang_man]

the full metal platinum looks sick, but i just wouldn't trust it

my favorite part is
360degree view angle
lolz

but might be worth it! if i need one that i don't want to worry about, this might be it. cool site op

[fuelvolts]

Here's a review on the FM Plat (http://www.mympxplayer.org/review-of-full-metal-pla-vp21599.html)

[PorkyBubs]

So are those Nano type mp3 players good?

[Archaea]

Bump for more input...I'm thinking of buying the glacier.

[GJSNeptune]

Prices are crazy low. I'm going to remind you of 'buyer beware' and leave it at that.

Are they confused about mp3/mp4 or are they really mp4 players?

[FLECOM]

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0blk1024mp047

it plays nes games! i think i might have to risk it, that is just too cool

[-iLLuZioN-B18C1]

interesting....in for more info

[c.d.e]

Prices are crazy low. I'm going to remind you of 'buyer beware' and leave it at that.

Are they confused about mp3/mp4 or are they really mp4 players?

No, the are mtv players, some weird halfassed asian video format that no convertor converts to or fro, atleast on mac and linux.

If you want a mp4 player, you're going to have to spend about 100 atleast. Or get one of those harddrive enclosure + tv output cases.

[Archaea]

actually it plays amv format and there are tons of different convertors...a link a couple pages up to a review site has lots of tips...I'm just about sold on buying the glacier...

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/itemLayout.php?action=listItem&catId=c06111400ux0001&stream=mp3

Link to a forum for this site

http://www.mympxplayer.org/general-discussion-vf16.html

For the price it seems pretty much unbeatable. ~50 bucks shipped.

external speaker, 2" screen, movies, mp3s, pictures, fm radio, voice recorder, and uses a standard nokia cell phone battery that is replacable so you don't have to just dispose of the unit or buy a new unique battery when it dies due to recharge cycles.

[Deutch420]

wow.. the glacier can be had for 30 buxx BIN on ebay.. WTF, why are these things so cheap?!:confused:

[tpfaff]

I read that the nanoish ones have terrible charging problems, might be true for the glacier to, but I think that one uses a nokia battery which would make it fine

[Deutch420]

i bit and bought the i-Platinum Junior for the gym... 33 buxx and it should be small enough that i won't feel it in my pocket...

[TeamStrykerCore]

Looks like they dont come with the battery

?

[PorkyBubs]

i bit and bought the i-Platinum Junior for the gym... 33 buxx and it should be small enough that i won't feel it in my pocket...

I would like the order one for my friend. Tell me details when you get it.

[SJetski71]

wow.. the glacier can be had for 30 buxx BIN on ebay.. WTF, why are these things so cheap?!:confused:mass produced in china probably

Some interesting products though, had seen the site before but i finally bookmarked it.

Thanks OP

[Deutch420]

Looks like they dont come with the battery

?

thanks for making my heart drop for 30 seconds...

** Built-In rechargeable Li-ion Battery ( up to 4 hours Continue MP3 playback)


I would like the order one for my friend. Tell me details when you get it.

Will do! I hope it doesn't get damaged in the mail..

[TeamStrykerCore]

Crazy! I'll have to watch this thread and see how they go. If it works Im in for two

[sabrewolf732]

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0blk1024mp047

it plays nes games! i think i might have to risk it, that is just too cool

Seriously dude, I want it too. 10% off it comes to $90, nb for a cheap do it all multi media device.

[hottnucks]

somebody hurry and buy something and tell us how it goes.....im liking the i-Platinum Junior

[Seufari]

subscribed... Let us know how they turn out...

[DanNeely]

4hrs for a flash player???

That's really bad.

[Archaea]

wow.. the glacier can be had for 30 buxx BIN on ebay.. WTF, why are these things so cheap?!:confused:

30 bucks on ebay with 20 shipping -- you'd be better off going from this store with an 80% postive lifetime rating. --- you gotta figure that the numbers on the buis review sites are ALWAYS lower than reality because most people will only post if they get ripped. So an 80% lifetime score is probably really quite good for these type of device sales.

[Starfox]

.foldered

[Jasonx82]

had one worked for a week or two, then just stopped working, build quality feels crappy I guess, you get what you paid for.. :)

[Archaea]

alright....after reading quite a bit of good stuff on the glacier and seeing a review of it on utube I bit.

You've sent a secure payment of $56.49 USD to Dragonmarts Company Limited through PayPal. The payment will appear on your card statement as "PAYPAL *DRAGONMARTS". You'll receive an email receipt shortly.

It's $5.30 off with the coupon code, cost $5 to ship, and I paid an extra $3.50 for insurance in shipping from Hong Kong. Total = $56.49

I paid through pay-pal securely - and they had 2750ish feedback through paypal ---so it's not some run in the night company (i hope).....

I'll let you know what I find out. Shipping was said to take 7-14 business days...so it will be a bit before I get back with you. But this could be a really cool little device for the money.

[J Macker]

I guess the only major caveat is when the Li-battery goes dead and you have to open it up and solder a new battery in. unless the thing completely dies after only a couple weeks

[Archaea]

Alright - so I bought the glacier


THUMBS UP


it came in tonight and it's an AWESOME toy for 50 bucks.

BIG huge screen in comparison to the device. The thing is TINY....I'll take some pictures...

It is about as long as my pinky and about as tall as four or five stacked quarters.

The screen is super clear! The build quality seems great! I think I could probably resell these at work for a profit :)....The interface takes about 3 minutes to get used to before you are a pro!....

Sound is great, radio plays very well,

The headphones it comes with look cool but sound really crappy - when i first plugged it up I thought -- well it's cool, but the sound quality is not soo great...but when I plugged in a pair of cheap ear buds from wal-mart the sound got 100x's better. I think i need to buy a quality pair of ear buds now.

This thing is REALLY truly worth the 50 bucks! I can't speak for the 1.5 platinum unit - but thumbs WAY up for the Glacier!

[hottnucks]

Alright - so I bought the glacier


THUMBS UP


it came in tonight and it's an AWESOME toy for 50 bucks.

BIG huge screen in comparison to the device. The thing is TINY....I'll take some pictures...

It is about as long as my pinky and about as tall as four or five stacked quarters.

The screen is super clear! The build quality seems great! I think I could probably resell these at work for a profit :)....The interface takes about 3 minutes to get used to before you are a pro!....

Sound is great, radio plays very well,

The headphones it comes with look cool but sound really crappy - when i first plugged it up I thought -- well it's cool, but the sound quality is not soo great...but when I plugged in a pair of cheap ear buds from wal-mart the sound got 100x's better. I think i need to buy a quality pair of ear buds now.

This thing is REALLY truly worth the 50 bucks! I can't speak for the 1.5 platinum unit - but thumbs WAY up for the Glacier!

Sounds promising! Post some pics ASAP!

I also found a coupon code that's a little better than the one from OP. I don't think his 10% coupon works anymore.

Use coupon code MU0FS0RDEV to get 13% off the entire order.

[khanable]

WE NEED PICS

[GJSNeptune]

Screw pics, I want video.

[khanable]

Screw your video, I want thoughts telepathically sent to my brain

:D

[Deutch420]

still haven't gotten mine :( . Did you use UPS or Hong Kong mail?

[TeamStrykerCore]

I'll bite as soon as i know how to handle the battery issue.

[hottnucks]

I'll bite as soon as i know how to handle the battery issue.

The glacier accepts Nokia cell phone batteries.

[Archaea]

The glacier accepts Nokia cell phone batteries.

QFT...That's why I picked the glacier - of all the units on that website the glacier was the only one that used a battery that would be easy to purchase (Nokia cell phone battery)

I also liked the external speaker option on the unit so I could play some music on my desk and show people my videos with sound (no headphones) The external speaker sounds pretty small, but considering the overall size of the unit it's still really good. I just used the cheapest shipping option and got today...I posted the day I purchased it in here as well...I'd guess two weekish transit time. I did just get it today. It came packaged well in a UXCELL brand box. Came with a USB cord for PC use, and a USB adapter for wall outlet charging. A crappy english translated instruction manual, and a driver CD.

[compslckr]

pretty cool looking devices, if my nano diesi might pick one up

[sonofwang]

I've seen one of the uxcell products, it was one of the nano rip-offs. It wasnt the "full metal" one, it was the kind with a plastic front and a metal back. It had a little bit of twist in it if you know what i mean. As in if you took it in both hands and twisted it a little it would squeak and move slightly. But i imagine the full metal one wouldnt have that problem. Also the play/stop symbols rubbed off after a couple days.

As far as functionality it worked. The UI seemed kinda engrishy - not streamlined and intuitive like other mp3 players ive seen.

The major drawback is that it uses a smaller headphone jack. 2.5mm i think. standard earbuds will not work and the ones that it ships with really really suck. They sound horrible, However they sell a 2.5 to 3.5 (1/8in) adapter cheap.

[Archaea]

http://www.putfile.com/archaea/images/83471

There are the images of the glacier - it uses a standard 3.5 mm ear phones plug I wouldn't touch a unit with a 2.5 mm ear phone plug...the adapter is unwieldy.


This unit sounds QUITE nice for 50 bucks. I don't think given the functionality and asthetics of this device anyone could complain!

Ask me any specific questions and I'll try to answer. The unit has movie playback but it does NOT support AVI and WMV --- at least without converting them to another format...I'm still trying to figure that out...I'll let you know when I do. The picture of the polar bear is the unit playing a movie that came with the device. I put about 1.5 GB of mp3's on it and the interface is pretty intuitive compared to what I expected.

The little speaker rocks...i'm listening to it right now...it's like a little tiny desk radio...plenty loud to hear...Definately taking this to the office tomorrow to show it off!

[Archaea]

might be able to use this?
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1155228

[GJSNeptune]

I'm still trying to let it sink in that these devices are real :D



But from the pics, they seem to have had some quality time and development put into them. Wonder who makes them and why they're so damn cheap.

[TeamStrykerCore]

No one can believe the price because the US market rips off its consumers.
Remember we are a capatilist country. That's one of the reasons why MP4
never took off. Half the storage of MP3 format..

And oh yeah.. all of our MP3 players cost way to much for the market.

[GJSNeptune]

No one can believe the price because the US market rips off its consumers.
Remember we are a capatilist country. That's one of the reasons why MP4
never took off. Half the storage of MP3 format..

And oh yeah.. all of our MP3 players cost way to much for the market.

Oh, I know. I agree. It's still crazy though. They're taking a huge profit hit if they were to have comparable prices. The unfortunate thing is that here in the States, people have gotten used to high prices. So much so that things with a low price actually deter them because they think it has to be expensive if it's quality.

[TeamStrykerCore]

Oh, I know. I agree. It's still crazy though. They're taking a huge profit hit if they were to have comparable prices. The unfortunate thing is that here in the States, people have gotten used to high prices. So much so that things with a low price actually deter them because they think it has to be expensive if it's quality.

My sentiments exactly. And you have a valid point there US used to mean quality.. now when we export US products to other countries they think its complete garbage.

The only thing that we seem to spread to other countries is innovation *new ideas*
although other countries reinvent our ideas and usually embarass us.

Im ready to pull the trigger on one of these. They look pretty sweet.

[Archaea]

mine just survived the drop test....on accident of course....

It's got that real slick glossy cover that shows fingerprints, but looks great when it's clean and I dropped it on the floor from waist high....no damage!

bonus...it was playing MP3's at the time, and it just kept on playing - no skip - no turnoff!!!

[BURNTOIL3372]

I bite on 4 players. I ordered 2 UX-Osmium and 2 UX-Palladium players. I should have them in by Saturday. I will let you all know how they arrive and if they work correctly. Total cost for the players shipped about $230.

[Apallohadas]

I bit on a glacier.

[Archaea]

I just figured out how to make the movies...
I've got an AMV convertor....looks good - works good, will take basically any format and make it into the AMV format the glacier likes.

It's prolly about 20FPS? guessing....

Here is the link to the download


http://www.mympxplayer.org/portal.php

Go down to the bottom of the screen and look for the 4.05 version - that's what I downloaded it's easy - works well makes decent vids.

[dj_2004]

Wow, I'm picking one of these babies up... screw paying 150 for an iPod!

[StaticlyCharged]

That Glacier is totally nuts, I want to buy it.. but I really don't need one, So I just need to find a reason to buy this baby for $36... how can you not buy it? (13% Discount + $15 Paypal Discount) just.. nuts.

Bump for amazing.

[Raptor_007]

Hmm..I was under the impression that the PayPal $15 rebate deal wouldn't work for this offer since the website is based in China. I was looking through that thread and noticed several times that it mentioned U.S. or Canadian websites. Maybe it just meant U.S. or Canadian money? Anyway...

I bit on the Glacier, the Full Metal 1.8 Nano lookalike, and the Black Hawk. I used the coupon code listed above (thanks!) and paid insurance for it. All totaled right at $200. I'm looking forward to it. Maybe we need to setup a permanent thread for these things and get out of the [H]ot Deals section! :p

[sabrewolf732]

let me know how the black hawk turns out :D

[BURNTOIL3372]

I bite on 4 players. I ordered 2 UX-Osmium and 2 UX-Palladium players. I should have them in by Saturday. I will let you all know how they arrive and if they work correctly. Total cost for the players shipped about $230.\

Well i got my players in this morning and all i can say is they ARE Amazing. All of them work without any problems at all. The picture on these units are bright and crisp. Im watching "Ice Age" on mine and it looks great. The built-in speaker also sound nice.
One thing i will say is that i was not impressed with the package of the units when the post man gave me the package. Kids fighting for the players now lol. Looks like I will be ordering 2 more units with the coupon code:D .

[Archaea]

out of both of those two models - which do you like better?

[mercedes-benz]

Ive been looking at cheap mp3 players... I might have to bite on one of these!!!

Anyone tried the fantasia or the black hawk (the blackhawk can do roms/emulators and music correct?)

[Archaea]

fantasia has the 2.5 mm earphone plug I believe...You can buy quality earphones that are the smaller 2.5mm jack, or use the included adapter - but realize that the american standard earphones use 3.5mm jacks.

I liked the fantasia too though - outside of the 2.5mm jack ---- it's a sharp looking unit.

[RangerXML]

I bit, lets see how it goes.

[BURNTOIL3372]

Out of these 2 players UX-Osmium and UX-Palladium i enjoy the UX-Palladuim the best. All buttons r hiden and the screen just rocks and the speaker kicks. The jack on the side is 3.5mm and the usb cord can be bought anywhere if lost. The UX-Osmium needs a special usb cord , so dont lose it if you get it. The Osmium seems to be the same qulaity as the Palladuim. 2 negatives i have with the Osmium r the usb cord and the speaker doesnt sound as good. Im A Happy Camper:D .

[Deutch420]

Ordered mine on Feb 6th. According to my tracking number it didn't ship until two days ago (Feb 14th). Suxxx

[BURNTOIL3372]

I ordered mine on the 2-10-07 , processing took 2 days. Was shipped on the 2-13-07 cleared U.S. customs on 2-15-07 and then received package 2-16-07 morning. Looks like its a 5 day shipping thing. And i agree that bites , im going to have to lose mine to the kids so here i go wanting 5 days again.

[markt435]

any of these expandable?

[Archaea]

there is one with expandable SD slot

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/itemLayout.php?action=listItem&catId=c06090800ux0001&stream=mp3

but from the description it only takes up to a 2gb SD card anway.

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0blk0256mp038

[markt435]

gah thats crap. i was hoping for one with 2gb that would be expandable. meh

[purg3d]

I bit on the glacier simply because it can use a readily available cell phone battery. Should be quite handy at work. Thanks!

[Apallohadas]

I bit on the glacier simply because it can use a readily available cell phone battery. Should be quite handy at work. Thanks!

Same thing here. I wonder how long the phone battery will last.

[Archaea]

I charged mine and people played with it using the external speaker all day at work yesterday - watching movies playing videos...Everybody was impressed at the price.

It didn't even show any battery usage after my day....I had it on speaker play for at least 2 hours...so I think battery life is pretty good and at the uxcell forums they say 8 hours or so and with a higher ma rating battery made by nokia - like an extended life battery you can get 12 hours or so.

[sabrewolf732]

I charged mine and people played with it using the external speaker all day at work yesterday - watching movies playing videos...Everybody was impressed at the price.

It didn't even show any battery usage after my day....I had it on speaker play for at least 2 hours...so I think battery life is pretty good and at the uxcell forums they say 8 hours or so and with a higher ma rating battery made by nokia - like an extended life battery you can get 12 hours or so.



Should have told them $75 so you could make profit :p

[BURNTOIL3372]

On my UX-Palladuim unit i charged for about 4 hours and used the speaker the entire 8 hour shift at work before it needed recharging. The software that comes with the unit works and transfering videos files to it , has been a brezze for me. No problems yet , looking at firmware update if theres 1.

[rayg]

I've seen one of the uxcell products, it was one of the nano rip-offs. It wasnt the "full metal" one, it was the kind with a plastic front and a metal back. It had a little bit of twist in it if you know what i mean. As in if you took it in both hands and twisted it a little it would squeak and move slightly. But i imagine the full metal one wouldnt have that problem. Also the play/stop symbols rubbed off after a couple days.

As far as functionality it worked. The UI seemed kinda engrishy - not streamlined and intuitive like other mp3 players ive seen.

The major drawback is that it uses a smaller headphone jack. 2.5mm i think. standard earbuds will not work and the ones that it ships with really really suck. They sound horrible, However they sell a 2.5 to 3.5 (1/8in) adapter cheap.

On their website it says the nano clone uses a 3.5mm jack. If it doesn't, then I won't get it, and will likely get the one you got.

[Strmtrper6]

Here's a pretty good forum about these players. I guess uxcell is a sponsor there.

http://www.mympxplayer.org/index.php

Sounds like the glacier has a higher failure rate than the FMP and such. I can't decide between the palladium and the FMP. I kinda want that speaker for at work.

[Archaea]

Remember that in forums, usually people with bad expieriences are much more likely to post.

My glacier player is still working great through the first week! Everybody at work was impressed with the unit!

[Strmtrper6]

Sorry, I did not mean to imply they were crap. Just seems to have more problems than the FMPs are having.

[Old Hippie]

I didn't even want one of these things, but for 50 bucks it's a pretty neat toy. Thanks OP.

[Fleat]

I bit on a full metal platinum and a glacier, we shall see how long they last. I am pretty skeptical about the whole thing.

[Billiam411]

hmm (subscribed)
i'm trying to decide between the 2gb palladium and the 2gb glacier, anyone have any side by side comparisons / reviews of them?
i like the battery compatibility of the glacier, but am wondering what makes the palladium cost $16 more.
hey archaea: in those putfile pics, the one showing the contents of the box, whats that black box with the two leds on it at the top? is that the charger?
and has anyone had any experience with their support? i do realize they are in china, so i wouldnt expect much haha
i very well just may have to bite on this

[Archaea]

Yeah, The black box with the two LEDs is the USB AC charger when you don't want to use a computer. It's similar to the standard Blackberry chargers. The Red LED means charging - green means done.


I think the palladium would be the smaller lenghtwise but thicker - I didn't compare the acutal mm size specs, but the 2" screen that both units use would be the same screen ---- but the screen on the palladium is almost the entire face, whereas the glacier has the controls on the same face as the screen. I know the glacier is really thin and I would think the palladium must be a smidge thicker.

[DeathMan]

these all look amazing, the prices are just unbelievable. Waiting to hear some more reviews from you guys

really interested in the black hawk... NES games???

good luck!

[compslckr]

these are so slick, I have been looking at user images on Flickr and google images and they look great. the NES Games feature sounds pretty sweet too! I might just sell my 2gb nano and get one of these for less than I sell the nano for :D

[Billiam411]

does anyone know about these? (http://en.meizu.com/product_m6.asp)
it looks pretty good (http://www.mympxplayer.org/image-asp92.html), and has a 2.4" inch screen too, plus has a 4gb model

[hottnucks]

does anyone know about these? (http://en.meizu.com/product_m6.asp)
it looks pretty good (http://www.mympxplayer.org/image-asp92.html), and has a 2.4" inch screen too, plus has a 4gb model
hmmm...these are on eBay for ~$80. These things look nice!

It plays Xvid!!

"Synchronized Lyric Display, E-book, Alarm Clock, Calculator, Calendar, Games, etc"

[Apallohadas]

Which ones did you find for 80 bucks? Cause everything I saw was ending above the 100 mark or still had 2-3 days left on the bidding.

[BURNTOIL3372]

hmmm...these are on eBay for ~$80. These things look nice!

It plays Xvid!!

"Synchronized Lyric Display, E-book, Alarm Clock, Calculator, Calendar, Games, etc"

You can find the mini player white or black for about $159.99 if you google the item. I also found a 8gig Version coming out in March for about $195.99. Pre-order payment of $50.00 is needed for 8gig version . If i was shopping for that high in price range. I would pay $249 for the Zune player instead. These little players are under 60 bucks after coupon and there 2gig's.

[Jesus_Faction]

the UX-Osmium looks like a good deal
im still kind worried about the quality though
I saw some posts that said it died after a few days or was DOA and it takes weeks to get into contact with the manufacturer

[Archaea]

i was playing with mine more last night. (glacier) The tempo controller is really cool! It's like an audigy card in that it can speed up or slow down the tempo without changing the key/pitch of the song notes....So it can be really fast or really slow and the singers voices still sound the same (I.E. not chipmunks singing) This is a good feature for working out on the treadmill or something if you like to run to the beat of music.

I'm still impressed with mine. If I compared it side by side with a Zune - I'm sure the Zune would win (I haven't ever played with a Zune) --- But my unit was about ~55$ shipped....and that is 1/5 of the price.

Get real on the GB usage guys. 2GB is enough music to listen for DAYS straight without needing to change the titles. For the price it's a compramise that is worth making. It's USB 2.0 so it transfers fast and why do you need to store your whole 30GB music collection on your handheld mp3 player?

[DeathMan]

Get real on the GB usage guys. 2GB is enough music to listen for DAYS straight without needing to change the titles. For the price it's a compramise that is worth making. It's USB 2.0 so it transfers fast and why do you need to store your whole 30GB music collection on your handheld mp3 player?

QFT

still looking to hear some more about...

all of these players :D

[GJSNeptune]

It's about variety. Obviously I'm not going to put my entire collection on a portable device, but 2GB is about 1/20 of my main collection. That's not much variety, especially if your files have a high bitrate.

[total]

It's about variety. Obviously I'm not going to put my entire collection on a portable device, but 2GB is about 1/20 of my main collection. That's not much variety, especially if your files have a high bitrate.

QFT...

I encode all my CDs at 192 VBR mp3 with lame. I get a great sound but it does take between 75-100Mb depending on the length of the album. I used to work at a used record store so my CD collection is in the couple of thousand CDs range (really easy to do when you are paying $2-4 an album). So with 2GB I am looking at 15-20 albums depending on length. I think last time I took inventory I had something like 2027 albums with roughly 20 albums to be ripped. So with 2GB I can't even put a dent in my collection. The Creative Muvo2 I have (4GB) gets loaded up with a workout playlist every time I go to the gym. So I personally find 4GB to be inadequate, where as I wouldn't even consider a 2GB player. To make a blanket statement like, "Get real on the GB usage guys. 2GB is enough music to listen for DAYS straight without needing to change the titles. For the price it's a compramise that is worth making. It's USB 2.0 so it transfers fast and why do you need to store your whole 30GB music collection on your handheld mp3 player," is just ignorant.

Value is more than something being cheaper than something else. Value is something working for my situation at a price (and quality) I find acceptable. So while 2GB might be great for some, it won't satisfy me, so it holds no value to me (therefore not really a deal at all). At 4GB you are talking more my language, but I would prefer something in the 8GB range to really satisfy me. Note I'm not saying anything on the build quality etc of these players, I'm just saying that a blanket statement like the one above is ignorant. If all anybody needed was 2GB players Apple wouldn't be selling 60-80GB like they are going out of style.

[Archaea]

QFT...

I encode all my CDs at 192 VBR mp3 with lame. I get a great sound but it does take between 75-100Mb depending on the length of the album. I used to work at a used record store so my CD collection is in the couple of thousand CDs range (really easy to do when you are paying $2-4 an album). So with 2GB I am looking at 15-20 albums depending on length. I think last time I took inventory I had something like 2027 albums with roughly 20 albums to be ripped. So with 2GB I can't even put a dent in my collection. The Creative Muvo2 I have (4GB) gets loaded up with a workout playlist every time I go to the gym. So I personally find 4GB to be inadequate, where as I wouldn't even consider a 2GB player. To make a blanket statement like, "Get real on the GB usage guys. 2GB is enough music to listen for DAYS straight without needing to change the titles. For the price it's a compramise that is worth making. It's USB 2.0 so it transfers fast and why do you need to store your whole 30GB music collection on your handheld mp3 player," is just ignorant.

Value is more than something being cheaper than something else. Value is something working for my situation at a price (and quality) I find acceptable. So while 2GB might be great for some, it won't satisfy me, so it holds no value to me (therefore not really a deal at all). At 4GB you are talking more my language, but I would prefer something in the 8GB range to really satisfy me. Note I'm not saying anything on the build quality etc of these players, I'm just saying that a blanket statement like the one above is ignorant. If all anybody needed was 2GB players Apple wouldn't be selling 60-80GB like they are going out of style.


so at your 192KB/Sec bit rate encoding we get 100mb per album.
You'd get 20 albums worth of space.
That's over 20 hours of music???

I don't know about you - but my gym workouts usually are about 45 minutes long ;)

You can't put what you like on there with 20 hours of music using a 2GB setup?

If 2GB doesn't meet your need then it doesn't --- but for the vast majority it does and these players are phenominal price/performance units!

[GJSNeptune]

I wouldn't claim that most people use portable audio players just to work out. And you better be using flash-based player if you are. I bet some people have one player for working out and a hard-drive-based player for other uses. I take my iPod to work every day and have it play on my desk, and I'd probably go crazy if I only had 2GB.

But you're right, if 2GB isn't right for you, it isn't right for you.

[total]

so at your 192KB/Sec bit rate encoding we get 100mb per album.
You'd get 20 albums worth of space.
That's over 20 hours of music???

I don't know about you - but my gym workouts usually are about 45 minutes long ;)

You can't put what you like on there with 20 hours of music using a 2GB setup?

If 2GB doesn't meet your need then it doesn't --- but for the vast majority it does and these players are phenominal price/performance units!

I have a tendency to just throw whole albums on there and work my way through them as I'm working out. I also put demos/singles on there to check out new or independent artists, which can entail a lot of skipping.

Like I said, I have nothing against these players; I just find that 2GB isn't what everyone on the planet finds acceptable. My Jazz, Classical and House albums will really put these players to shame...especially when you've got a single album that is taking up 300-400Mb on your drive (not to mention I'm sure these players are more like 1.8GB players).

For some 2GB might be great, and for others it will seem plenty inadequate; it is all just dependent on your listening habits.

Oh and this thread has way too much calm thinking/discussion going on. Here: YOU GUyZ R ALLNOOBS AND SO R THESE 2gBS plyers.

Much better.

[Strmtrper6]

Does anyone have a FMP that can verify the wheel is touch sensitive like a normal ipod?

[hottnucks]

Which ones did you find for 80 bucks? Cause everything I saw was ending above the 100 mark or still had 2-3 days left on the bidding.

Here's the 2GB & 4GB White version on eBay for $81.99 + $24.99 shipping (from Hong Kong) & $125.99 + $25.99 shipping, respectively.

2GB Version (http://cgi.ebay.com/Meizu-2GB-MP3-MP4-FM-Player-Birthday-Wedding-GIFT_W0QQitemZ300075330696QQcmdZViewItem)
4GB Version (http://cgi.ebay.com/Meizu-4GB-MP3-MP4-FM-Player-Birthday-Wedding-GIFT_W0QQitemZ300075330725QQcmdZViewItem)

[markt435]

2GB can hold ~500 WMA @ 128kbps which is good enough for me.

[total]

2GB can hold ~500 WMA @ 128kbps which is good enough for me.

Than you have found yourself good value in turn making it a good deal. Personally I won't touch WMA at any kbps, but to each his own (I have heard that WMA can handle low bitrate better than MP3 and/or OGG...so you might be better off at that bitrate).

[Archaea]

with an average handheld player chances are you won't be able to tell the difference between a well encoded 128 kb/sec mp3 and a 192 kb/sec.....It isn't like these units use an audigy 2 ZS platinum pro chipset. :)

[Raptor_007]

Does anyone have a FMP that can verify the wheel is touch sensitive like a normal ipod?

I would love to know that myself, but I have already ordered one. I'll let you guys know what I think whenever it comes in. I am under the assumption that it is not the same as the iPod clickwheel, but if it is, that makes the deal even sweeter.

[c.d.e]

2gigs is great for music. 1 cd holds about 7~10 mp3 cds of mixed constant 128/192 and 256vbr, atleast for me. 2 gigs is alot more then I need with my tastes, since I get bored/download more real quick.

But, I think most people complaining about the size is those who want to use it for video. At standard pirate video, its 600~700 for a 1.5/2 hour movie. How big is it for one of these videos after running it thru the compression.

[sabrewolf732]

2gigs is great for music. 1 cd holds about 7~10 mp3 cds of mixed constant 128/192 and 256vbr, atleast for me. 2 gigs is alot more then I need with my tastes, since I get bored/download more real quick.

But, I think most people complaining about the size is those who want to use it for video. At standard pirate video, its 600~700 for a 1.5/2 hour movie. How big is it for one of these videos after running it thru the compression.


I could get dvd's down to about 200MB on my psp.

[Archaea]

with my glacier I don't think you'd want to watch a real DVD movie.

It only plays back at prolly 15 to 20 FPS...it isn't full feature smoothness. It's not bad for a couple short viral video clips here and there, but i don't think it'd look so great with a divx flick...

[Apallohadas]

Here's the 2GB & 4GB White version on eBay for $81.99 + $24.99 shipping (from Hong Kong) & $125.99 + $25.99 shipping, respectively.

2GB Version (http://cgi.ebay.com/Meizu-2GB-MP3-MP4-FM-Player-Birthday-Wedding-GIFT_W0QQitemZ300075330696QQcmdZViewItem)
4GB Version (http://cgi.ebay.com/Meizu-4GB-MP3-MP4-FM-Player-Birthday-Wedding-GIFT_W0QQitemZ300075330725QQcmdZViewItem)

$25 bucks shipping is not cool.

Just thought I'd add, that for the 4GB one, once it's hitting the $150 mark, why not get something much more local than Hong Kong? A Zune is even a better deal once you're getting that high.

[Zick]

Thanks OP, just ordered my Glacier :)

[laptop]

I have been reading this thread and have to laugh.
I posted this site here in the hot deals section back around Christmas.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1125091
I was looking to get a cheap player. Everything I read said these were the cheapest POS players there were.
I decided to go with a different company based on the what you guys said and what I found out using Google.
I hope those that bit have good luck.

[jdimo125]

Anyone get their hands on one of the full metal platinums yet? How does it compare to the ipod? I'm thinking on going that route because all the nano cases should fit it with little to no modification since they are only +/- a few mm in size different. Although that glacier looks promising as well. Great thread!

[Archaea]

I have been reading this thread and have to laugh.
I posted this site here in the hot deals section back around Christmas.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1125091
I was looking to get a cheap player. Everything I read said these were the cheapest POS players there were.
I decided to go with a different company based on the what you guys said and what I found out using Google.
I hope those that bit have good luck.


I have a friend who has a generation 1 chipod looks like a nano - it is 100% complete crap compared to my glacier unit. I couldn't even figure out how to use the device. He couldn't get folders to work correctly for storing media, the interface is extremely clunky - there is a long pause in switching songs ect. I promise you this glacier unit at least is absolutely nothing like my friend's (and your friend's) crappy gen 1 player. That thing truly is worthy of throwing out the window.

[matrix563]

sweet. i may have to bite on this!!

[Strmtrper6]

Just to let everyone know, the 13% off coupon expires tomorrow. (02/22) Figured I'd mention it for the other people on the edge of getting one like I am. Think I'll bite.

[DooLocsta]

Does the Platinum come with the nokia battery?

[Archaea]

the only unit with the replaceable battery is the glacier.

[aznpxdd]

Anyone have a picture of their glacier? I'd like to see the screen quality and how videos look on it.

[Archaea]

Anyone have a picture of their glacier? I'd like to see the screen quality and how videos look on it.

post #42

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1030645765&postcount=42

[Zick]

Hey Archaea,

I've got a Glacier coming and was curious on how long the battery lasts so far? Also, is that black box in the last picture a charger? Do you have to take the battery out to charge it or does it just plug into the Glacier?

Thanks

[firebyyrd]

wow.. the glacier can be had for 30 buxx BIN on ebay.. WTF, why are these things so cheap?!:confused:

thank the chinese people :o

[Archaea]

Yes,

it is a charger, and my battery after one charge is still going strong after fiddling with it the last week +.

I have read on other forums the battery lasts 8-10 hours of constant use, and with a nokia replacment OEM battery will last 10-14 hours.

I've done a lot of transferring and video watching

[RangerXML]

Can you take videos from (evil) iTunes and convert it to the format for these players?

[Deutch420]

Got my UX Platinum Junior today. Love it. The headphones that came with it were thrown in the trash ASAP; they are worthless. Here are a few pics.

http://i17.tinypic.com/2gy4wzt.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/49lfbeb.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/2njbzt5.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/484j4ht.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/478swtc.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/2eyua0y.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/4711iqg.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/2r5x17m.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/4g3nm9w.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/2nm3vo0.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/2j2f8ed.jpg

The screen is flawless... those lines and smudge marks from my fingers are easily wiped off. For $32 i am more than happy. I think im going to buy 10 of them and sell them for 50 buxx around town.. Should be easy considering these are really nice. The video playback is probally around 20FPS, but it looks cool.. Colors are vibrant. There is a little light leakage on both sides, but once past the installizing screen they are no longer noticable... I've already sold 2 of these in the past hour (from people seeing mine) for 50 buxx.. Time to order a bunch!!

Now lets just see how long the battery lasts ... HAHA

[Raptor_007]

Got my UX Platinum Junior today. Love it. The headphones that came with it were thrown in the trash ASAP; they are worthless.


Looks pretty cool, man. How long did it take you to get your Platinum Junior from order date to arrival date?

[Deutch420]

Looks pretty cool, man. How long did it take you to get your Platinum Junior from order date to arrival date?

Well I ordered it the 7th.. And it got here the 17th. I wasnt home when they delivered it so i just picked it up today... Its really not that slow... I'de say out of those 10 days only 6-7 of them were business days.. So all-in-all Hong Kong mail is pretty efficient.

Im gonna buy a few glaciers and a few more Plat. Jr's. to sell.. Ill put up some pics of the Glacier as soon as i get them!

[purg3d]

any one else order during the chinese new year? ugh.

I'm hoping to get mine in soon so I can prove all the local skeptics wrong.

[anthongy817]

any one else order during the chinese new year? ugh.

I'm hoping to get mine in soon so I can prove all the local skeptics wrong.

I just placed my order for a Glacier and a Full Metal Platinum 1.8. :D

[N H O]

be sure to post pics!

[Apallohadas]

Anyone thinking about buying these to resell, think twice.

Craigslist is littered with these. So unless you have a group of locals that are interested, I'd say don't bother.

[crazjayz]

What's the navigation like on these thing? The "Full Metal Platinum 1.8" looks like the 2nd gen ipod nano, but does it use a clickwheel? (like, is it touch sensitive?) Or is it like a cd player, where you only can go forward and backwards track by track?

[=Leefdawg=]

i just ordered a platinum 1.8 ill let you know if i ever get it... the tracking page wont load for me so i have no idea where my order is, im sure it iwll be here ina few days

[scrogathon]

links dead

[johnnq]

i would never buy anything from a site like that. no resellerratings. they look almost brand new. i guess i just like knowing that i've got some kind of warranty on my product.

[=Leefdawg=]

its up again just down for maintenance is my guess

[Zick]

its up again just down for maintenance is my guess


It's dead again. It was down most of the weekend too, must be having some issues over there.

[Archaea]

i would never buy anything from a site like that. no resellerratings. they look almost brand new. i guess i just like knowing that i've got some kind of warranty on my product.


Yeah, but the good news here is that some others have already verified the company is legit.

I would be the same way but I found a forum full of people who had ordered from UXCELL and had a bunch of discussion going on.

[PGPfan]

I ordered (and recieved :) ) both a Glacier and Platinum and I can verify the company is legit with very fast, cheap shipping. The units themselves are very nice - although they have limited run times on the internal batteries compared to my Clix. Overall, definately worth the money.

The only wierd thing is the shipping: It leaves Uxcell via UPS and comes to the US (west coast), once it arrived in Kent, WA (near Seattle) it gets transferred to USPS (good ol' post office) for delivery (I live in Idaho). The post mark says 'New York' but according to all the tracking info I recieved it never went anywhere near the East Coast. Go figure...

-PGPfan

[Strmtrper6]

Anyone with a platinum able to verify the clickwheel yet?

[Steve_010]

very fast, cheap shipping.

How fast total? I'm going on vacation in a week and a half...enough time to get it before I leave?

[Zick]

How fast total? I'm going on vacation in a week and a half...enough time to get it before I leave?


Probably not likely that you would recieve it in time.

I placed my order on Feb 20th. I just received an email today stating that it was being shipped. It states that on the 4th business day after receipt of this shipping notice that I will be able to start tracking my order.

So it sounds like it's gonna be at least another week before I see it.

[=Leefdawg=]

yah when the site was up i ordered mine on feb 22 and it still said in processing last night so prob. 1-2 weeks which is what it says on the webiste

[PGPfan]

How fast total? I'm going on vacation in a week and a half...enough time to get it before I leave?

I recieved notice that they recieved payment 2/13/2007.
Received tracking number and shipping notification on 2/16/2007.
Package arrived 2/23/2007.

Hope this answers your question.

-PGPfan

[PGPfan]

Anyone with a platinum able to verify the clickwheel yet?

It's not a 'clickwheel'. Imagine 4 membrane switches at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions, covered in a flexible, thick nylon 'decal' that is flush with the body of the player. It feels well made, but it's kind of hard to describe.

-PGPfan

[GJSNeptune]

Please stop signing your posts. It's needless and somewhat against the rules. Put it in your signature section so it's at least a smaller font ;)

No reason to read your name twice, 'eh?

[crispyb]

My Muvo2 4GB just died few days ago.
Bit on the Glacier black.

[Zick]

Please stop signing your posts. It's needless and somewhat against the rules. Put it in your signature section so it's at least a smaller font ;)

No reason to read your name twice, 'eh?


Looks like somebody missed snack time?


-Zick

[Apallohadas]

Lol!!!

[ShepsCrook]

looks like the coupon is invalid now.

[anthongy817]

Still waiting on my order to be shipped. :(

[Raptor_007]

I placed my order on Feb 16, and today when I checked the shipping tracking number, I see that it left Hong Kong today:

Outward Registered Letter

Destination - United States of America
The item left Hong Kong for its destination on 27-Feb-2007

So I guess it shouldn't be too much longer before I get my Glacier, FMP 1.8 and Black Hawk.

[XPL051v3]

Was just browsing the site to see if they have any FM Transmitters for the Glacier or any other MP3 player on the site so you can listen to them in the car while driving. Anyone know if they make them for these players?

-Xzi

[Strmtrper6]

Last I checked 95% of FM transmitters are universal. If it has a headphone jack you are good to go. I've got a couple I use at work and in the car with everything was a cd player to a pda.

[Chowder Head]

Damn, I'm absent from the forums for a few days and deals like this pop up? Serves me right.

Just a quick question. The Black Hawk is the one that can play NES games, correct? Did anyone buy one of those? If so, could you tell me how you like it?

Same goes with the Full Metal one. That seemed pretty slick too but I haven't heard anything about.

I was about to purchase one of those but playing NES games on the Black Hawk is really, really tempting.

[chaz9999]

I was about to purchase one of those but playing NES games on the Black Hawk is really, really tempting.

Me too... Anyone purchased a Black Hawk yet? Review (regarding the NES capabilities) :cool:

[GJSNeptune]

Looks like somebody missed snack time?


-Zick

Props for uselessness.

(25) You are allowed one signature per post. A signature section is supplied for that usage. No one wants to see your name on your posts multiple times as it is annoying.

Pretty sure it's a bannable offense if it becomes a problem.

[Zick]

Props for uselessness.



Pretty sure it's a bannable offense if it becomes a problem.

Geez, cry some more would ya. :rolleyes:

[GJSNeptune]

Geez, cry some more would ya. :rolleyes:

I'm good. Are you?

[hottnucks]

Chill out guys....it's not that big of a deal.

Anyway, my Glacier was shipped out on Monday. I guess I'll get it about 10 business days?

[purg3d]

it'd be a shame to see this thread locked because of drama.

that said, does anyone know how to get ahold of usps tracking numbers? apparently mine shipped from hong kong on the 26th.. thanks.

[XPL051v3]

I finally bit on this and got the 2GB Glacier. I also bought this http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Cable-Transmitter-MBL-FM-XMTR/dp/B0001Y9UEW
FM Transmitter to go along with it so I can listen while traveling. Hopefully I recieve mine in ~ 10 days.

-Xzi

[Apallohadas]

Hate to tell you but that Monster Cable fm transmittor is a flaming piece of shit.

I had it and I tell you, it must have a transmitting range of millimeters.

[firebyyrd]

i bought a glacier,

[XPL051v3]

What FM Transmitter would you recommend for the Glacier MP3?

Hate to tell you but that Monster Cable fm transmittor is a flaming piece of shit.

I had it and I tell you, it must have a transmitting range of millimeters.

[kleptophobiac]

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=FM35BWT

Become a pirate radio station! This'll cover a solid 5 mile radius. :)

[Apallohadas]

My own glacier should arrive tomorrow. I'll let you know.

[c.d.e]

http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=FM35BWT

Become a pirate radio station! This'll cover a solid 5 mile radius. :)

5 miles? Does the fear of the FCC banhammer come included, or do you have to pay extra?

[kleptophobiac]

Hey, I didn't say it was legal!

The banhammer comes free. Getting it to go away costs extra.

[Elstaf]

I bit on the Glacier yesterday. You guys have made it sound like a winner.

[Apallohadas]

Archaea, mine keeps restarting when I try to play mp3s recorded at 192. What are you recording and playing your's at?

[BURNTOIL3372]

Archaea, mine keeps restarting when I try to play mp3s recorded at 192. What are you recording and playing your's at?


I dont have the Glacier , I have the Ux-Palladium and the Ux-Osmium. I can use the manger software that comes with the players , but i just drag and drop 320k files into them and GOOD to go. No problems with players i have. I do use the software to convert video files onto it.

[c.d.e]

Archaea, mine keeps restarting when I try to play mp3s recorded at 192. What are you recording and playing your's at?

Something I have noted in most mp3 players is that they don't like non-standard (22.05k or 44.1k) sample rates.

[Blazestorm]

I've seen one in person, I thought it was garbage... I didn't like anything about it... the navigation/menu system was retarded... and it was SLOOOOWWww

[Archaea]

I have had my player restart on me about 2x's...

I'm not sure what caused it....I have my mp3's recorded at any possible bitrate - I've gotten a few of them at LAN parties and such so there is no standard encoding rate. I've not really payed that much attention to it....If it restarts I just kinda go with it.

You aren't paying Ipod prices so I think it reasonable to encounter a glitch or two here or there.

If it straight up can't play 192kbp mp3s - that's uncool - I'll have to check tonight. But I hadn't noticed that and I would have thought I should have by now.

I think this glacier mp3 player is great for the vast majority of people. If you are a perfectionist it may not be your bag. But for my purposes it's a really cool unit.

[psychoace]

Even when you do pay Ipod prices you do have many comparable glitches. Like trying to play a track but it just wont start. It forces you to restart the player by holding the play button for 5 seconds. This has happened to me more then a few times. Then the Ipod sometimes has problems handling mp3's not encoded with it's own program. I have a few Lame VBR mp3's that will get cut off about 20+ seconds before the end of the actual track. When I watch the player run I see the time is moving at double pace some of the times. So Ipod is definetly not some pinnacle rock solid piece of hardware. Mind you these same Mp3's play perfectly fine in my new Creative Vision: M without a problem. I have also had problems with 1 or two songs skipping (yup like a cd) on my Ipod.

[GJSNeptune]

I have an iPod Video 60GB with tons of mp3s and none of them were encoded by iTunes. Most are ripped using CDex. I've had zero problems playing them on my iPod. Actually, I've had zero problems with my iPod as well.

YMMV, as always with electronics.

I'm willing to bet your playback problems stem from the encoding and not your iPod.

[Apallohadas]

Yup, it was the rate. It doesn't like music encoded at 192. I burn a few at 44.1 and they work.

[psychoace]

I have an iPod Video 60GB with tons of mp3s and none of them were encoded by iTunes. Most are ripped using CDex. I've had zero problems playing them on my iPod. Actually, I've had zero problems with my iPod as well.

YMMV, as always with electronics.

I'm willing to bet your playback problems stem from the encoding and not your iPod.

As I said the mp3's work perfectly with my Creative Vision: M and actually worked great with my RCA Lyra 40gig mp3 player and RCA Lyra 512mb mp3 player. It just seems Ipod is having a problem. Maybe with the multiple versions of L.A.M.E I was using with that might of had some flags that the Ipod didn't like. But if the song is playing perfectly without a hitch then the timer shouldn't be skipping ahead at random intervals. I am also not the only person who had this problem it has been discussed in Apples forum.

[Apallohadas]

I've seen one in person, I thought it was garbage... I didn't like anything about it... the navigation/menu system was retarded... and it was SLOOOOWWww

Slow yes, garbage no.

It's only slow on start up. Navigation is a little wierd and non-intuitive, but what are you expecting for 50 bucks? I like that the back is non-scratching plastic however.

[GJSNeptune]

Yup, it was the rate. It doesn't like music encoded at 192. I burn a few at 44.1 and they work.

VBR 192 or flat? Most of mine are ripped at 192.

[Apallohadas]

I'll have to check. I let Itunes do the encoding.

[purg3d]

just got my glacier today... the ear buds are crap, but otherwise it's a great piece of hardware. they weren't lying about the size of this thing. I'll have to be careful not to run it in the laundry.:eek:

[c.d.e]

Sorry, I meant that 22.05 and 44.1 are the standard sample ratings. I've had mp3 just balk at 18k and 35k, but I don't know why they were encoded like that in the first place...

[CyberDeus-RagDoll]

wow.. the glacier can be had for 30 buxx BIN on ebay.. WTF, why are these things so cheap?!:confused:

Because, much like apple's own product, they only cost about $5 to build them in the first place.

[Apallohadas]

Ok I checked, I had recorded them at 192 flat.

In any case, I understood that you meant 22 and 44 as standard. I'll just use Nero to convert my existing mp3s to the more standard format.

[Siren40]

My 2 GB Glacier broke after about four hours. No drops, hard shaking, or anything.

[RangerXML]

This fixed my Restarting:

http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-removing-memory-hack-vt2400.html?highlight=low+level+format

Already have first half of season 1 of Avatar The Last Air Bender uploaded, some chapters from a book I'm reading (little disapointted it dosn't do .doc) and Pirates (gotta love Jack).

[Zick]

Got my Glacier yesterday, so it took about 9 business days.

This is one nice "little" unit. Have to be careful to not lose it, it's so small. :eek:

First thing I did was download the firmware for a backup copy and then did a low level format to fix any possible problems that I've been reading people having (restarting, hung hour-glass, memory hack).
This took all of 5-10 minutes including downloading and installing the software.

After that I copied my pre-loaded library in WMA format to the Glacier. Turned it on and worked like a charm.

Sorry no pics yet and I haven't had a chance to test the video yet either.


Lots of good info about these units here: http://mympxplayer.org/general-discussion-vf16.html
Although you'll find a lot of people having problems but I think thats mostly because the people who don't have problems don't even know that website exists.

[Zick]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/Glacier011.jpg

[TeamStrykerCore]

Wow..

The only thing holding me back is i've been to lazy to research which one is the best.
I can't decide. Anyone care to help me?

As far as batteries, bang for the buck etc.

[vlotn7]

plz post info about the video quality if possible

[Zick]

Image quality is ok, but on the test video I was using I keep getting some slight stuttering in the audio. Some said turning down the quality fixed that, but it didn't seem to do much for me.
Some also said that the AMV converter tool isn't very good. Maybe there's a better one out there somewhere.

Here is a short clip I downloaded off the Internet (AVI format), used their AMV converter tool to convert to AMV format (of course).
My camera didn't capture the quality very well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/th_MOV00810.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Glacier/?action=view&current=MOV00810.flv)

[jamesbong]

wow nice pics. wish mine was like that :( , mine is stuck on the hour glass ....

[DuyNgn]

My 2 GB Glacier broke after about four hours. No drops, hard shaking, or anything.

First casualty. Care to elaborate? (it's current condition... turns on? display? music? brick?)

[Zick]

wow nice pics. wish mine was like that :( , mine is stuck on the hour glass ....


Have you tried formatting it w/ the MP3 utilites or w/ Windows? Does the pc see it when you connect it via USB?
Another user had a similar problem and he fixed his by replacing the battery. Maybe try remove and reinstall the battery or find another Nokia battery to use.

If all else fails, just contact Uxcell and they will replace it.

[Siren40]

It gets stuck on the hourglass icon(no animation) from the start. From other posts I've read this has happened to alot of people and the fix is either buy a new battery which MIGHT work, or send it back at your expense. Either way, $$ outta my pocket.

[anthongy817]

It gets stuck on the hourglass icon(no animation) from the start. From other posts I've read this has happened to alot of people and the fix is either buy a new battery which MIGHT work, or send it back at your expense. Either way, $$ outta my pocket.

Not true. If you're in the USA then the majority if the time Uxcell just ships out a replacement without you having to ship the defective one back to them. I'm not sure what type of procedure they go through to insure that your item is actually defective and that you're not just simply lying. Get in contact with them, they're known to have great customer service.

[droctogon187]

I don't know about their customer service...

I ordered a Full Metal Platinum 1.8 2GB and a Glacier at 2GB. I followed these instructions (http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-removing-memory-hack-vt2400.html?highlight=low+level+format) as mentioned before to check if you have the correct amount of memory and to aid in crashing, etc. The FMP checked out fine, but my Glacier ended up having 103MB!
So I guess I am one of the few that are having problems, so I e-mailed them saying that I have read others have had memory issues, so I checked and I have a memory problem too; please send me an answer on replacing my unit or refunding my money. Well, they replied, but I don't think they understood my problem, even though I thought I spelled it out. Here is my e-mail, and Uxcell's response:

Hello,
I have recently purchased item # mv0blk2048mp039 the, "Glacier - MP4
Player 2 inch TFT LCD 2GB Black (using Nokia Battery)"
I formated the drive with the included software like it was recommended to me
from a friend to make sure that I had the correct amount of memory that I paid
for. Well I followed a format procedure and found that I DO NOT have the
correct amount of memory that I paid for! More specifically, the unit says it has 102M.
I would like a replacement sent or a refund immediately as I have read that
this is not an isolated incident and many other people are finding out they
have "hacked" players. Please get back to me ASAP on how you are going to fix
this problem. Thank you.


RESPONSE:

Dear customer,

Each folder can only save 99 files even there is memory left, so please check
whether you have saved more than 99 music files in one folder or not, if yes,
please try to separate those files into different folders, the problem should
be solved. Besides, all the folder should be created under the root
directly and no sub folder should be created. Please kindly have a try and advise.

Regards
uxcell customer service


Well, judging by the manual, their English is not the best (Random quote from manual, "...Go with the following steps to have intercept to have sequence Input intercept in intercept speed..."
I guess I will have to try again and use different wording? At least the FMP 1.8 is sweet. Its feels a lot more solid then the Glacier, but I guess that is because its metal shell. I guess I am off to reword my e-mail...

[crispyb]

Just received my glacier yesterday. All in all I say it's worth $50. The FM transmitter works good. Sound quality is not bad either, but DO NOT use the headphones that come with it. There's so much sound leak that my wife could hear it across the room.

One major thing I do not like is menu navigation speed. It takes 2 seconds or so to select something or move around in the menus.

[Zick]

I don't know about their customer service...

I ordered a Full Metal Platinum 1.8 2GB and a Glacier at 2GB. I followed these instructions (http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-removing-memory-hack-vt2400.html?highlight=low+level+format) as mentioned before to check if you have the correct amount of memory and to aid in crashing, etc. The FMP checked out fine, but my Glacier ended up having 103MB!
So I guess I am one of the few that are having problems, so I e-mailed them saying that I have read others have had memory issues, so I checked and I have a memory problem too; please send me an answer on replacing my unit or refunding my money. Well, they replied, but I don't think they understood my problem, even though I thought I spelled it out. Here is my e-mail, and Uxcell's response:

Hello,
I have recently purchased item # mv0blk2048mp039 the, "Glacier - MP4
Player 2 inch TFT LCD 2GB Black (using Nokia Battery)"
I formated the drive with the included software like it was recommended to me
from a friend to make sure that I had the correct amount of memory that I paid
for. Well I followed a format procedure and found that I DO NOT have the
correct amount of memory that I paid for! More specifically, the unit says it has 102M.
I would like a replacement sent or a refund immediately as I have read that
this is not an isolated incident and many other people are finding out they
have "hacked" players. Please get back to me ASAP on how you are going to fix
this problem. Thank you.


RESPONSE:

Dear customer,

Each folder can only save 99 files even there is memory left, so please check
whether you have saved more than 99 music files in one folder or not, if yes,
please try to separate those files into different folders, the problem should
be solved. Besides, all the folder should be created under the root
directly and no sub folder should be created. Please kindly have a try and advise.

Regards
uxcell customer service


Well, judging by the manual, their English is not the best (Random quote from manual, "...Go with the following steps to have intercept to have sequence Input intercept in intercept speed..."
I guess I will have to try again and use different wording? At least the FMP 1.8 is sweet. Its feels a lot more solid then the Glacier, but I guess that is because its metal shell. I guess I am off to reword my e-mail...


I've seen this same response from Uxcell from others who said they emailed them and got a useless reply.
Basically they either had to reply back to them a couple times before they got anything or else go to www.mympxplayer.org (http://www.mympxplayer.org) and send a PM to Keith. I've seen people have good luck after contacting him.
Was the email you sent to Uxcell to info@uxcell.com?

[crispyb]

Just received my glacier yesterday. All in all I say it's worth $50. The FM transmitter works good. Sound quality is not bad either, but DO NOT use the headphones that come with it. There's so much sound leak that my wife could hear it across the room.

One major thing I do not like is menu navigation speed. It takes 2 seconds or so to select something or move around in the menus.

[Zick]

Just received my glacier yesterday. All in all I say it's worth $50. The FM transmitter works good. Sound quality is not bad either, but DO NOT use the headphones that come with it. There's so much sound leak that my wife could hear it across the room.

One major thing I do not like is menu navigation speed. It takes 2 seconds or so to select something or move around in the menus.

lol, look two posts up. :D

[droctogon187]

I've seen this same response from Uxcell from others who said they emailed them and got a useless reply.
Basically they either had to reply back to them a couple times before they got anything or else go to www.mympxplayer.org (http://www.mympxplayer.org) and send a PM to Keith. I've seen people have good luck after contacting him.
Was the email you sent to Uxcell to info@uxcell.com?


Yeah, the e-mail I sent was to the info@uxcell.com I think I will have to PM Keith; I read somewhere that he would be good to contact directly. Thanks.

[smileyscout]

Anyone purchased one of the Black Hawk players yet? If it plays videos at a decent frame rate and actually plays NES games I think I might buy one.

EDIT: Found a new coupon code KZATZP78CG The site I got it from says it expires on the 31 of March.

EDIT: Found a great site with some info on generic players and a comparison of the players offered by UXcell http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/media_players/media_players.xhtml

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/7948.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=7948)

[Zick]

Anyone purchased one of the Black Hawk players yet? If it plays videos at a decent frame rate and actually plays NES games I think I might buy one.

EDIT: Found a new coupon code KZATZP78CG The site I got it from says it expires on the 31 of March.

EDIT: Found a great site with some info on generic players and a comparison of the players offered by UXcell http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/media_players/media_players.xhtml (http://www.freelabs.com/%7Ewhitis/media_players/media_players.xhtml)

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/7948.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=7948)

Wow, nice find there Smiley. That's a nice comparision page. :cool:

[hstuehmeyer2000]

wow, i am about to buy the full metal plat. 4gb

[anthongy817]

Arg, stupid USPS lady just left the package in front of my door without even knocking on the door (I was sitting in the living room watching TV the whole day). I live in a apartment on the first floor so the postal lady is not very bright. Now I have to go through the damn USPS claims...Pain in the ass...I waited two weeks for both my Glacier and FMP to come in.

[hottnucks]

I just got my Glacier today. Should I do that low-level format procedure before anything else? The paperwork that came with the Glacier says...."Please do not attempt to format the player. It has already been formatted for proper usage."

What do you guys think?

[Zick]

I just got my Glacier today. Should I do that low-level format procedure before anything else? The paperwork that came with the Glacier says...."Please do not attempt to format the player. It has already been formatted for proper usage."

What do you guys think?


Ignore the manual. Do the low level format. It will not hurt anything, plus it can help prevent future problems. I did this to mine and its been working perfect so far.

http://mympxplayer.org/new-the-ultimate-mpx-player-guide-vt4696.html?sid=5be25148adba26c0252f481a8329ecf0

[Hilton]

Damn. Both coupon codes are done.

[Archaea]

why do you want to do a low level format anway?

If you can put more than 1GB of music on it you have a 2GB player. When you format wouldn't you lose codecs???

[RangerXML]

10% off:

Here is the code: KZATZP78CG
(Just "copy" and "paste" the code)



Hope you can all make use of it and save abit of money on your next order.

Remember, this expires at the end of March so hurry!!

Cut and Paste from http://www.mympxplayer.org/portal.php

I just ordered 2 FMP 1.8 and 1 FMP 1.5.

[Hilton]

Thank you. I ordered a white glacier.

I'm going to use it while mowing. I'm HOOKED on audio books.

[XPL051v3]

Anyone know any cases that will fit the Glacier MP3? Just received mine yesterday and it's so tiny. I think its even smaller then the Sansa MP3. So far so good, I will post pics soon.

-Xzi

[RangerXML]

Anyone know of a work around for converting video files for these players if you have AC3Filter installed? Right now I either uninstall AC3Filter when converting videos or I get messed up audio.

[crispyb]

lol, look two posts up. :D

I followed the instructions on formatting the Glacier. Let me say one thing. This is smoking!
Everything is working the way its supposed to without delays:) Now, my only negative on the Glacier is the data transfer speed.

[Copyright]

Anyone know if the aftermarket Nano cases will fit the FMB 1.8 ?

[vlotn7]

i just ordered a black 2gb glacier....

[hottnucks]

I followed the instructions on formatting the Glacier. Let me say one thing. This is smoking!
Everything is working the way its supposed to without delays:) Now, my only negative on the Glacier is the data transfer speed.

Yeah, the data transfer speed sucks ass

[Elstaf]

I received my Glacier today. I have to say I am inpressed for the money spent. VIdeo is a little jumpy but I didn't buy it for the video anyway. I turned around and ordered one of the new 4GB Full Metal Platinum models.

The wife liked the Glacier too, so I guess its hers now... Can't beat those prices.

and yeah... the included headphones suck.

[Mohonri]

You all are really tempting me with this. I just can't decide whether to get a Glacier or a Full Metal Platinum. I like the replaceable battery of the Glacier, but I also like the higher capacity of the FMP. Has anyone taken apart their FMP to see how difficult it would be to replace the battery?

[orvil01]

Chalk up another glacier stuck at the hour glass, gonna see if i can locate a battery even if i have to pay a few bucks on ebay also going to look into restoring the firmware, Cant do anything just yet will post with any updates if abel to format etc.

[dj_2004]

Hmm, think I'll go for a Glacier.

[Archaea]

do not buy a 4GB player with this chipset...All sources reveal that this chipset included on ALL this chinese players only supports 2GBs maximum...and that the players stating 4GB memory are actually hacked firmware and don't truly have 4GB.

That info is about a month old and I've not researched recently - but it seems to found on several different sites, from several different sources.

[RangerXML]

UXCell has a good reputation and this is suppose to be the first true 4GB (hence the name).

[dj_2004]

Any opinions on the i-Platinum Junior (Link (http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=mv0wht2048mp021))? Has a 3.5mm jack, only 4 hours of battery life (but most seem to be rated at 4 hours), very small in size.

Seems the battery life is actually less than the four they say (one guy said it was under two hours!).

Think I'll go with the little bit bigger regular i-Platinum as many people say it is great and the battery life is at least four hours. Too bad it has a 2.5mm jack but I suppose I can live with that.

[Ryle]

These are kickass

[Fleat]

Well I received the Glacier and Full Metal Platinum today.

Glacier:
The Glacier was working okay out of the box albeit extremely extremely slow. I had planned to low level format it anyways as advised in the thread. I went ahead with this procedure without any issues and it ended up at the right capacity 2gbs. Fast forward 5 minutes when I tried to transfer a song to it and it randomly shut itself down.

I plug in the Glacier to the wall adapter to get it to charge, the cord on this is maybe 1.5ft! With the switch turned to off I get a red led on the charger and with the switch turned to ON on the player the charger has a read and green led. After trying various things for a few hours, I get frustrated and yank the battery and plug the player back in to the charger. Now after turning the player on I get (in broken english) basically plug a battery in to charge.

I am assuming that the battery that came with it is just completely shot and I won't be able to try a replacement nokia battery until I get back to the states in the end of March. Anyone else had the same problem.

And now onto the other player.


Full Metal Platinum:
This was for my lady and was the valentines edition. This was also operating unbelievably slow out of the box for a flash player as well so I went ahead and did the low level format on it. This went great and the player finished at the right size 2gb.

I transferred some wma's onto it and it works great. The lady also wants you to know for a chipod she gives it two thumbs up :-P My only complaint about this is the stiff, almost stick buttons and the headphone port is extremely tight to plug things into. The sound output and quality is actually fairly impressive to be honest.

-

This is my experience thus far and I hope the new battery will eventually get the Glacier working properly as it seems like it would be a fun beat on mp3 player for a while.

Any questions, feel free to ask.

edit: just another update, now the glacier won't even turn on at all with the battery out and plugged in... doh really really don't want to ship this back.

[Zick]

I plug in the Glacier to the wall adapter to get it to charge, the cord on this is maybe 1.5ft! With the switch turned to off I get a red led on the charger and with the switch turned to ON on the player the charger has a read and green led. After trying various things for a few hours, I get frustrated and yank the battery and plug the player back in to the charger. Now after turning the player on I get (in broken english) basically plug a battery in to charge.


You say you got a red and green led light on the charger when plugged it into the glacier correct?
Does the Glacier display anything when it's plugged in like this?
The green led means that it's charging.
Also, you have to have the Glacier switched on when using the wall charger.

[MajorDomo]

If you are having problems, take it to the proper forum, this is [H]otDeals, not Diagnostics 101....

[NIVO]

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=pc0sil0256mp001

this looks to be a nice little player with OLED display, but does anyone see one of the same that INCLUDES FM tuner playback? i cant seem to find one here to fit that need.

[Billiam411]

anyone purchasing the glacier and palladium, feel free to do a side-by-side comparison review :D
i'm thinking i might go with the palladium, simply because it has a higher res screen, its relatively smaller (buttons on side) and a longer battery life. any reasons why i shouldnt?

[Apallohadas]

Sorry MajorDomo, I think so many people are talking about their issues here, because others may still be interested in the HotDeal.

http://www.uxcell.com/uxcell/retail/item/showItemLayout.php?action=showItem&id=ph0blk0000mp001

Anyway! Here's a TOUCHSCREEN mp4 player phone that just got added to their inventory. Someone buy it and lemme know how it goes :p

As for my player, I've now tried 8 different format and it kept restarting anyway. So I took it apart (After trying a low level format and everything.)

That's when I noticed that the connectors on the battery were not aligned. To be exact, all 3 connectors had a different bend. So then I wanted to see if it was these that were the issue, so I held the player, and shook it when it was playing.

Lo and behold it restarted. Put it in my pocket while playing, it restarted. So then I cut 2 very thin pieces of plastic and slid them under the bottom of the battery (I'll take pics if anyone REALLY needs them), and it's on it's third song without skipping.

[compslckr]

if that phone supported the 850mhz band i would buy it and give it a try. I am sure I could sell it for more than their asking price on ebay or something
-zac

[Apallohadas]

Someone on ebay was selling it as a fake iphone for 500. After more digging, it's only a dual bad phone. Great for europe and asia, but not so great for the states. Most US carriers use 850/1900 and this is 900/1800.

[droctogon187]

I've seen this same response from Uxcell from others who said they emailed them and got a useless reply.
Basically they either had to reply back to them a couple times before they got anything or else go to www.mympxplayer.org (http://www.mympxplayer.org) and send a PM to Keith. I've seen people have good luck after contacting him.
Was the email you sent to Uxcell to info@uxcell.com?

Ok, so I sent a reply back to info@uxcell.com saying that I have no files loaded on the player and only have 103MB of total storage. Their reply was still telling me to not have over 99 files per directory. Nice.
I also registered at mympxplayer.org in search of Keith to PM, but can not find anyone with that screen name. Did I miss him? I would like to have that 95% or so of memory I paid for back...

[dj_2004]

Ok, so I sent a reply back to info@uxcell.com saying that I have no files loaded on the player and only have 103MB of total storage. Their reply was still telling me to not have over 99 files per directory. Nice.
I also registered at mympxplayer.org in search of Keith to PM, but can not find anyone with that screen name. Did I miss him? I would like to have that 95% or so of memory I paid for back...

He goes by uxcell on the forum iirc.

[Zick]

Ok, so I sent a reply back to info@uxcell.com saying that I have no files loaded on the player and only have 103MB of total storage. Their reply was still telling me to not have over 99 files per directory. Nice.
I also registered at mympxplayer.org in search of Keith to PM, but can not find anyone with that screen name. Did I miss him? I would like to have that 95% or so of memory I paid for back...

He goes by uxcell on the forum iirc.

Yup, sorry. His screen name is Uxcell. I just assumed it was Keith because that's what everyone was saying.

[droctogon187]

Yup, sorry. His screen name is Uxcell. I just assumed it was Keith because that's what everyone was saying.

OK. I found Uxcell and sent him a PM. Thanks guys.

[smileyscout]

MajorDomo

You should move the majority of this thread to the Computers and Gadgets forum. Then it won't gummy up [H]ot|DEALS anymore.

Great looking little players though. I'm thinking about snagging one of the Black Hawk players or a PSP. :D But the PSP doesn't have video out, or an SD slot, or built in Nintendo ROM playing, or... :p

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/7948.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=7948)

[Apallohadas]

Good idea moving it to the gadget forum.

I also picked up a PSP, and I have to say that I love the screen on it.

Though I'm curious as to why I see so many for sale on craigslist.

[dj_2004]

MajorDomo

You should move the majority of this thread to the Computers and Gadgets forum. Then it won't gummy up [H]ot|DEALS anymore.

Great looking little players though. I'm thinking about snagging one of the Black Hawk players or a PSP. :D But the PSP doesn't have video out, or an SD slot, or built in Nintendo ROM playing, or... :p

http://www.hardfolding.com/ftag1.php/mem/7948.png (http://www.hardfolding.com?go=38&tm=33&id=7948)

The PSP can play NES (along with just about every other system). :p But lets not get off-topic here.

[Archaea]

My glacier started acting up a bit while charging...I read on another forum that if you put a couple pieces of paper under the battery to raise the battery a bit it might fix it.

True tail in my case. The unit works fine again. I was having issues where it would turn off sorta randomly.

All I did was put a post-it note double over under the battery and turned it back on. Also one of my battery pins was bent a bit and I straigtened it out. I still like the unit for the price. Just take note on your glacier the QC might be a little less than desirable in the battery pin department.

[Apallohadas]

Yeah, I cut a sliver from the lid from a Pringles can and put that at the bottom of the battery. Fixed mine.

[Troz]

Looks like Apple paid them, a visit, all of the ipod/shuffle clones are *gone* from their website. Not sold out, all traces removed.

[Apallohadas]

Ha! You're right :D

Hilarious!

[dj_2004]

Wow, guess I won't be ordering one. That's pretty pathetic of Apple if that is indeed what happened.

[c.d.e]

Wow, guess I won't be ordering one. That's pretty pathetic of Apple if that is indeed what happened.

Yea, thats pretty pathetic of a company to protect its interests....


On a better note, anyone order the fantasia? Looks alot better then the paladin imho.

[TeamStrykerCore]

I was going to order a glacier today, but now im weary because of the recent "site takedowns" :(

[Loki008]

I was going to order a glacier today, but now im weary because of the recent "site takedowns" :(

Why? the take downs were for blatant design copies of the ipod, all their other products are still on the site. I am surprised apple was able to exert this pressure on a Chinese site, but that was the cause most likely

[BURNTOIL3372]

So if they cant sell ipod knock-offs then the 4gig versions r gone also Y or N? I havnt been able to find a link.

[TeamStrykerCore]

One question ? Would the glacier work well for running.
It's a serious question I want an MP3 Player bad.
But one thats great and doesnt hurt the pocketbook.
Mainly though, i want to use it for long walks w/ the woman
and early morning runs.

[dj_2004]

So if they cant sell ipod knock-offs then the 4gig versions r gone also Y or N? I havnt been able to find a link.

If it looks like an ipod it is gone.

Sounds like the fake ipods weren't the greatest anyways. How is the menu speed on the Glacier?

[BURNTOIL3372]

That i couldnt answer for you. I have 2 UX-Pal and 4 UX-Os models and they rock. Only thing i hate about the UX-Os model is the headphone jack its 2.5 mm. The Speaker on the UX-Pal can be heard 20 feet down the hallway at my work (i work at a hospital):eek: . Im always jamming some techno / Rap / Hard Rock. Its funny to see people look wheres the music coming from:p .

[2k2_zx2]

I got one of the 2GB silver "Chipod" 1.8" screen ones a few weeks ago and I love this thing.

I customized a $1 Store silicone Nano case to fit (display is larger and the controls are lower) and slid it in a $1 Store leather case for an Ipod Mini and it works perfect.

Takes about 1 hour for a full charge, lasts about 5 hours constant use when playing mp3's or radio.

The fact that it can recored the FM radio is great when I want to listen to the morning shows and have meetings to go to. Recording does use up the batter quite fast, get about 1.5 hours recorded and the battery is low. The USB cord it comes with my be short but its the same type that my Logitech remote uses and that cord is about 4 feet long.

I did notice if you plug the player in to the USB port or into the wall adapter, you can use it like its on direct power, wont drain the battery, charges up while you use it, great when using the recording function.

The menu may be slow, but for all the extra's it has I really like it.

[Apallohadas]

Glacier should be fine for running since it's flash memory.

If it reboots, then you have one with a loose battery compartment and you need to shim it with a thin piece of plastic like I did. (Pringles can lid. Cut a thin piece and 'viola' you have it.)