HDMI DVI Cable 28AWG - 6ft w/Ferrite Cores (Gold Plated) *$2.93 +s/h*

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Monoprice link (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2)
I doubt there's anything even close to this price anywhere else.

[Gilthanis]

$3.29 shipping for one still isn't bad even though it is more then the cost of the cable. Unfortunately it jumps to $7 for 2-3 and then sky rockets from there.

[HardTech]

I will never understand gold plated on HDMI/Optical stuff but oh well. Nice price none the less.

[Ockie]

I will never understand gold plated on HDMI/Optical stuff but oh well. Nice price none the less.

Bling factor.


Just like how buying spiner rims, or even large size show rims for your car does nothing for the car itself... just all about bling.

[johnzm]

haha...


it isint just "bling"


but, nice try:D

[Ockie]

haha...


it isint just "bling"


but, nice try:D


How so? Got facts?

[movax]

Bling factor.


Just like how buying spiner rims, or even large size show rims for your car does nothing for the car itself... just all about bling.

I think gold actually has a lower relative conductivity (on the scale that relates metals to the conductivity of copper, that being 1), but its benefit I *think* is that it's more durable of sorts. Here at work, we use gold plated pins & such on connector that are frequently removed & reconnected (on testers).

[Ockie]

I think gold actually has a lower relative conductivity (on the scale that relates metals to the conductivity of copper, that being 1), but its benefit I *think* is that it's more durable of sorts. Here at work, we use gold plated pins & such on connector that are frequently removed & reconnected (on testers).

Quality I can agree with, but you'd be looking at also buying a much better cable if quality/durability is a concern. As for just tossing on gold plating on the end, it's just bling :D

[johnzm]

Quality I can agree with, but you'd be looking at also buying a much better cable if quality/durability is a concern. As for just tossing on gold plating on the end, it's just bling :D



corrosion resistance.

which concides with cable life, and longterm connection quality.

fretting resistance ect ect. a simple google search yielded tons of information on the good/bad aspects of tin,nickel,copper core and gold plating..


by the way,

monoprice is good stuff, i got one of their "premium" dvi cables its about as thick as a penny. really nice cable that ud expect to spend hundreds on at best buy.
i am about to pickup a 50 ft dvi from them very soon, their prices canot be beat.

[hellomynameis]

could you use this on a PC to HDTV?

I have a 5700LE video card i would like to use.

[Ockie]

corrosion resistance.

which concides with cable life, and longterm connection quality.

fretting resistance ect ect. a simple google search yielded tons of information on the good/bad aspects of tin,nickel,copper core and gold plating..



LOL, connection quality... you mean with analog devices right? Not digital?

Digital it either works or it doesn't.


Oh and btw, if you are talking about plating in general, I'd agree with you, especially with analog connections. With digital and optical connections, I laugh.


could you use this on a PC to HDTV?

I have a 5700LE video card i would like to use.


Yes if you have an HDMI port on your tv.

[johnzm]

yes.

[johnzm]

LOL, connection quality... you mean with analog devices right? Not digital?

Digital it either works or it doesn't.


Oh and btw, if you are talking about plating in general, I'd agree with you, especially with analog connections.





Yes if you have an HDMI port on your tv.

trust me, ive had bad dvi plugs. a good connection and no connection make a big difference lol.

from what ive read (and seen) is that anything that requires considerable force to put on (a decent pair of rca's a DVI cable) wil benefit from a gold connection. there is less wear on it with repeated removal/insertion. also, when u plug it in and dont touch it for a year, the cable is more likely to maintain a good connection.

[Ockie]

trust me, ive had bad dvi plugs. a good connection and no connection make a big difference lol.

from what ive read (and seen) is that anything that requires considerable force to put on (a decent pair of rca's a DVI cable) wil benefit from a gold connection. there is less wear on it with repeated removal/insertion. also, when u plug it in and dont touch it for a year, the cable is more likely to maintain a good connection.


You are describing a cable that works and one that doesn't work, not the fundamentals of having gold plated connectors on digital cables.


How many times do you plan on removing and re-inserting your cable? If you dont touch any cable it's also very likley it could survive a year. Keep in mind, most of the devices you interface this to wont have gold plating, especially most video cards and most tv's.... so which makes the gold plating also moot.

[pc299]

Monoprice rocks, they have great prices on cables... I don't know how many SATA and IDE cables I've bought from them over the years.

[clickclickw00t]

I have a Samsung HD860 DVD player (upconvert) and I have DVI on my 22inch Westinghouse (although I don't think its HDCP enabled).

Can I use this cable for the DVD player to upconvert to 1080i?

Thanks

[IICCPP]

Great Deal, picked one up.

Thanks OP.

[-=Antimatter=-]

Nabbed one.

[taylorwilsdon]

Ockie, I'm afraid you've been a bit misinformed. If you've got a signal, its perfect - thats how it works with digital. However, when you get to great lengths (usually 15ft+) there begins to have some signal degradation and the extras (gold plating, ferrite cores) improve the signal quality so that you have any sort of picture at all.

If you buy a 50 foot cable out of the same material as the 5 foot $2 cable, you won't get a picture. The signal dies along the way.

[Justintoxicated]

Are these better than the monster cables on ebay? I picked up 2 Monster 500 DVI's 4Meters Length for like $25 shipped. Are these cables comparable? The Monsters are 2-3 times thicker than a regular DVI. I didn't really notice much difference when swapping them but it does look pimp to have some nick thick sleved cables running to 2 huge ass LCD's

[solotech]

Speak it like you mean it... Let the truth be told, to all the unknown!

Ockie, I'm afraid you've been a bit misinformed. If you've got a signal, its perfect - thats how it works with digital. However, when you get to great lengths (usually 15ft+) there begins to have some signal degradation and the extras (gold plating, ferrite cores) improve the signal quality so that you have any sort of picture at all.

If you buy a 50 foot cable out of the same material as the 5 foot $2 cable, you won't get a picture. The signal dies along the way.

[dandrop]

Here's an interesting article at Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually-268788.php). The authors put the Monoprice cables vs. Monster cables head to head.

The results show that for short cable runs, there difference is negligible and both should work just fine. However, for in wall and long cable run installations, Monster cables work better.

[GJSNeptune]

Ockie, I'm afraid you've been a bit misinformed.

This is gonna get ugly.

[CompuDrew]

Monoprice rocks! Thanks!

[pcgeek86]

Hell yeah! I just ordered 2 of these cables! I was waiting until my next paycheck, but HOW in the hell could I wait at that price! $12.86 shipped for TWO 6-foot cables! INSANE! THANKS!

[PanzerBoxb]

I use monoprice cables ranging from a 1.5 foot HDMI (HD-DVD to receiver) up to their least expensive 15 foot HDMI cable (Dell laptop to 47" LCD via HDMI/DVI converter) with absolutely zero problems. I believe many of the users over at AVSForum use their in-wall for all types of signal with few complaints.

[vbrtrmn]

Bling factor.


Just like how buying spiner rims, or even large size show rims for your car does nothing for the car itself... just all about bling.

They don't sell any gold ones .. i think the basic non-gold cable like this at WorstBuy is like $99.99.

[kenji]

Are these better than the monster cables on ebay? I picked up 2 Monster 500 DVI's 4Meters Length for like $25 shipped. Are these cables comparable? The Monsters are 2-3 times thicker than a regular DVI. I didn't really notice much difference when swapping them but it does look pimp to have some nick thick sleved cables running to 2 huge ass LCD's

hahaha

i wonder how many compliments you get on how big your monitor cables are..

:rolleyes:

[The Red]

I bought a Hanns G - HW223D model monitor from NewEgg and it says 1080p ready... except it needs some kind of DVI to YPbPr cable. Is this the right thing? ... and if not, how do I go about playing HD content from DVDs or hard-drive on this monitor then? or even games in HD?

Any help would be greatly appreciated... thank you!

[Atherton213]

what the max lenght for HDMI?? is there one?

[kenji]

I bought a Hanns G - HW223D model monitor from NewEgg and it says 1080p ready... except it needs some kind of DVI to YPbPr cable. Is this the right thing? ... and if not, how do I go about playing HD content from DVDs or hard-drive on this monitor then? or even games in HD?

Any help would be greatly appreciated... thank you!

If you read again, you'll see that the monitor includes the free cable you are talking about. It's also called a "component" cable, or analog HD cable.

Technically the monitor is 1680 x 1050 which is 30 pixels short of 1080p. no fear, you can either resize or crop without a huge loss of image quality.

Manufacturers often claim a resolution of 1080p on 1680 x 1050 monitors, but true 1080p will come at the next highest resolution (1200p) which usually comes on monitors that are 24" or larger (or sometimes 23")

with the free cable you should be able to hook into any of your HD sources without a problem.

[kenji]

what the max lenght for HDMI?? is there one?

In theory, since HDMI is carrying a digital signal (1's and 0's) the maximum length is that which still carries the signal.

In practice, the higher quality and thicker the gauge, the better chance of longer length without signal loss.

from wikipedia:

Cable length
The HDMI specification does not define a maximum cable length. As with all cables, signal attenuation becomes too high at a certain length. Instead, HDMI specifies a minimum performance standard. Any cable meeting that specification is compliant. Different construction quality and materials will enable cables of different lengths. In addition, higher performance requirements must be met to support video formats with higher resolutions and/or frame rates than the standard HDTV formats.

The signal attenuation and intersymbol interference caused by the cables can be compensated by using Adaptive Equalization.

HDMI 1.3 defined two categories of cables: Category 1 (standard or HDTV) and Category 2 (high-speed or greater than HDTV) to reduce the confusion about which cables support which video formats. Using 28 AWG, a cable of about 5 metres (~16 ft) can be manufactured easily and inexpensively to Category 1 specifications. Higher-quality construction (24 AWG, tighter construction tolerances, etc.) can reach lengths of 12 to 15 metres (~39 to 49 ft). In addition, active cables (fiber optic or dual Cat-5 cables instead of standard copper) can be used to extend HDMI to 100 metres or more. Some companies also offer amplifiers, equalizers and repeaters that can string several standard (non-active) HDMI cables together.

[Atherton213]

In theory, since HDMI is carrying a digital signal (1's and 0's) the maximum length is that which still carries the signal.

In practice, the higher quality and thicker the gauge, the better chance of longer length without signal loss.

from wikipedia:

Cable length
The HDMI specification does not define a maximum cable length. As with all cables, signal attenuation becomes too high at a certain length. Instead, HDMI specifies a minimum performance standard. Any cable meeting that specification is compliant. Different construction quality and materials will enable cables of different lengths. In addition, higher performance requirements must be met to support video formats with higher resolutions and/or frame rates than the standard HDTV formats.

The signal attenuation and intersymbol interference caused by the cables can be compensated by using Adaptive Equalization.

HDMI 1.3 defined two categories of cables: Category 1 (standard or HDTV) and Category 2 (high-speed or greater than HDTV) to reduce the confusion about which cables support which video formats. Using 28 AWG, a cable of about 5 metres (~16 ft) can be manufactured easily and inexpensively to Category 1 specifications. Higher-quality construction (24 AWG, tighter construction tolerances, etc.) can reach lengths of 12 to 15 metres (~39 to 49 ft). In addition, active cables (fiber optic or dual Cat-5 cables instead of standard copper) can be used to extend HDMI to 100 metres or more. Some companies also offer amplifiers, equalizers and repeaters that can string several standard (non-active) HDMI cables together.

thanks :) so i guess 10-15 feet across my room wont be an issue for the cheaper cables... although ill probly go with the thicker anyway.... just to be safe

[sonicDivx]

I wouldn't rely on Gizmodo as a great source. yeah the test is reasonably valid. I would suggest looking to avsforum. You'll find some great links.

I by the way ran 25/30 Monoprice Component and VGA cables and have no issues even at 1080p resolution.

[Bellz]

DL.tv episode 174 has some interesting and enlightening comments about this subject. They agree with the gizmodo results. Shorter cable runs apparently work fine with lower cost cables and quality is negligible. Longer cable runs over 6' require high quality cable to hold the signal strength.

[Tormond]

I use monoprice cabling exclusively in my home theatre and elsewhere. I have never gotten a bad cable or had any issues (read sparklies) with any of their HDMI product. I use a 50' run in my theatre room with no issues and 15' runs all the time. Their HDMI switchers are also one heck of a deal (and work very well) and I use a TON of their patch cables for networking. All in all just great quality stuff at insanely good prices. Their "cheap" shipping isn't bad as I have yet to EVER have them take longer than a day to get my product out the door and then it is all about the shipper.

[Obi_Kwiet]

Ockie, I'm afraid you've been a bit misinformed. If you've got a signal, its perfect - thats how it works with digital. However, when you get to great lengths (usually 15ft+) there begins to have some signal degradation and the extras (gold plating, ferrite cores) improve the signal quality so that you have any sort of picture at all.

If you buy a 50 foot cable out of the same material as the 5 foot $2 cable, you won't get a picture. The signal dies along the way.

That's bottlenecked by the gauge of the cable and the transmitting power not so much the quality of the cable it self. Generally, when you see Monster stuff doing better it's because they are using a higher gauge, not because they warrant their price tags. Generic stuff at 1/30th of the cost should perform just as well as long as you have a good gauge, which isn't always the case. Obviously cable quality could matter if you get something that's REALY bad or the connections start pulling aways from the wire, but avoiding that should bump up the price too much. Monster makes sick profit margins on all of it's stuff.