View Full Version : HOT!!! CC March 2, 2008 Ad - wii's in stock
letsmod
03-01-2008, 03:42 AM
Just saw the ad and called my local store to confirm
15 min per store
Circuity City sunday add
Adionik
03-01-2008, 03:48 AM
Wii's are still wanted/frenzied? I thought that was so last year.
domoMKIV
03-01-2008, 03:49 AM
Wii's are still wanted/frenzied? I thought that was so last year.
i didnt know there was still huge hype over them, i STILL have an unopened one left over from christmas that i didnt sell and almost forgot I still had it.
the one I bought when they launched, i hardly ever use it, just sits next to the tv collecting dust.
letsmod
03-01-2008, 03:56 AM
they sell out as fast as stores get them, ebay that bad boy, they are going for $320 to $380
[V]ad[H]atte(r)
03-01-2008, 05:34 AM
They're in stock everywhere locally, finding them is not an issue (mall, walmart, CC, BestBuy, EB, etc.). Must be larger cities having problems.
Direfox
03-01-2008, 09:51 AM
ad[H]atte(r);1032144199']They're in stock everywhere locally, finding them is not an issue (mall, walmart, CC, BestBuy, EB, etc.). Must be larger cities having problems.
Finding them IS an issue many places. After 5 weeks trying finally got one for the kids. No stores within 70 miles of us had them for more than an hour. People are still calling when the store opens on freight days to rush in to buy them (which made a couple wasted trips for me). We finally got one when Fred Meyers decided to 'raffle' off the right to buy on 11 of them. About 25 people where there but we drew one of the tickets.
Kids love it, and I am actually enjoying it more than any console I have bought. I started out with Pong (im old) and bought every nintendo, first two playstations, one sega system, and something else, cant remember the name.
firebyyrd
03-01-2008, 09:55 AM
wow. still in high demand?
or just never in stock :rolleyes:
B2BigAl
03-01-2008, 10:46 AM
Still almost impossible to find here too. A lot of stores still have the old "No Wii's, don't ask" signs up in the windows. I can't believe the demand is still so high...crazy.
WildMonkey
03-01-2008, 10:59 AM
Wii's? Might as well just buy a brick attached to another smaller brick as the controller and swing it around like a monkey trying to knock some bananas of a tree.
Konrad
03-01-2008, 11:25 AM
ad[H]atte(r);1032144199']They're in stock everywhere locally, finding them is not an issue (mall, walmart, CC, BestBuy, EB, etc.). Must be larger cities having problems.
I live in a town with less than 40K near smaller metropolitan areas... none of them have any Wiis.
bpizzle1
03-01-2008, 11:33 AM
the high demand is partially nintendo's fault imo (at this point i think they are doing it on purpose). even over a year after its release, nintendo seems to still always have manufacturing issues with wiis. i work at my local target part time in electronics, and we only actually get a shipment of wiis like once a month. when we do get a shipment its generally around 20-30 units...of course they last maybe an hour after we open. actually, until the shipment we received last week, my store hadnt received a shipment since about 1.5 weeks BEFORE CHRISTMAS, nor had any BB, CC, walmart, gamestop, etc. you would think after this amount of time, nintendo would have ramped up production and/or fixed any issues with the manufacturing process like sony did when the ps2 was in crazy demand. bottom line is that wiis are still in such demand because nintendo simply doesnt supply the consoles at a reasonable pace....stores getting 10 wiis in a month is a bit ridiculous imo.
id bet that if stores received wiis at a staggered pace, instead of one large shipment a month demand would also go down a bit since people would believe they could just drop by and pick one up rather than having to camp outside and beat everyone else to the store.
Obi_Kwiet
03-01-2008, 12:13 PM
Wii's? Might as well just buy a brick attached to another smaller brick as the controller and swing it around like a monkey trying to knock some bananas of a tree.
Hey, that might be fun! *rounds up bricks*
Blaineikans
03-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Sheesh, I may end up selling mine, I've had it for about a year and hardly ever play it.
Blue3ffect
03-01-2008, 01:06 PM
the high demand is partially nintendo's fault imo (at this point i think they are doing it on purpose). even over a year after its release, nintendo seems to still always have manufacturing issues with wiis. i work at my local target part time in electronics, and we only actually get a shipment of wiis like once a month. when we do get a shipment its generally around 20-30 units...of course they last maybe an hour after we open. actually, until the shipment we received last week, my store hadnt received a shipment since about 1.5 weeks BEFORE CHRISTMAS, nor had any BB, CC, walmart, gamestop, etc. you would think after this amount of time, nintendo would have ramped up production and/or fixed any issues with the manufacturing process like sony did when the ps2 was in crazy demand. bottom line is that wiis are still in such demand because nintendo simply doesnt supply the consoles at a reasonable pace....stores getting 10 wiis in a month is a bit ridiculous imo.
id bet that if stores received wiis at a staggered pace, instead of one large shipment a month demand would also go down a bit since people would believe they could just drop by and pick one up rather than having to camp outside and beat everyone else to the store.
While I think its annoying (my girlfriend has been trying to get one for quite a while now) I think its a pretty smart marketing tactic for Nintendo. Control the supply and and you keep the demand for the system high. Sure, you might end up with a few annoyed customers, but the payoff is much greater than the very low number of people who might say "screw this" if they cant find one for a while. Not to mention, while stores employee's might get a bit aggravated by everyone asking all the time, the store itself probably loves it when customers come in with the intention of only buying a wii, finding out they don't have any, and then picking up some media or a new keyboard or monitor or TV or whatever. Great economic strategy of Nintendo if it is being done on purpose, which I have believed it is for a very long time now.
That being said, if anyone is looking to sell one my girlfriend is looking still :D
bpizzle1
03-01-2008, 01:18 PM
While I think its annoying (my girlfriend has been trying to get one for quite a while now) I think its a pretty smart marketing tactic for Nintendo. Control the supply and and you keep the demand for the system high. Sure, you might end up with a few annoyed customers, but the payoff is much greater than the very low number of people who might say "screw this" if they cant find one for a while. Not to mention, while stores employee's might get a bit aggravated by everyone asking all the time, the store itself probably loves it when customers come in with the intention of only buying a wii, finding out they don't have any, and then picking up some media or a new keyboard or monitor or TV or whatever. Great economic strategy of Nintendo if it is being done on purpose, which I have believed it is for a very long time now.
That being said, if anyone is looking to sell one my girlfriend is looking still :D
oh theres no doubt if it is indeed being done on purpose, it is definitely a great tactic to keep the demand and hype on their system very high. as far as the consumer goes though, its a pretty large shaft imo.
also, just so you know. as far as target goes, if you ever see a wii pictured in the weekly ad that comes out every sunday morning (or sometimes saturday depending on where you live) the store will definitely have wiis that SUNDAY morning. in fact, it is target policy to have at least one of every item in the ad available when the store opens on sundays. because of this, stores will often hold wiis (or whatever item) in the stockroom until sunday morning due to the item being pictured in the ad...and no, they cannot pull them out of the back before then, in fact, they will just tell you they dont have any. hopefully you and your gf can use that little tidbit of info in your search for a wii.
derek533
03-01-2008, 02:05 PM
Just curious, but has anyone else noticed that the 360 Premium/Pro edition is nowhere to be found? I live in OKC and I seriously have not seen one since before Christmas. Elite's/Arcade's and even H3's are more prevalent than the Premium/Pro. I wonder what gives?
Sorry for the brief hijack.
letsmod
03-01-2008, 02:09 PM
all teh stores here have Arcade and elite, the pro is very limited
bpizzle1
03-01-2008, 02:11 PM
microsoft has admitted to a shortage of 360's
SparksNelec
03-01-2008, 02:27 PM
At this point, I definitely think Nintendo is causing a supply shortage on purpose. I don't see any reason why their supply can't meet up with demand at this point. I've been living in Germany for over 4 months now and frankly I'm surprised that there's still a shortage back in the US. Pretty much all the electronic stores I go to here have Wii's in stock and I even think some of them are still left over from the holiday season. Granted, that's speculation on my part but I see no reason for a surplus here and a shortage in the US. After all, I'm pretty sure all Nintendo has to do is flip a switch for the NTSC/PAL difference and throw in a different power adapter and POW, another Wii for North America. Anyway, I'm not going to be state-side for awhile but I do expect to see plenty of Wii's on the shelf for me to purchase when I do.
matt fury
03-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Actually, it's pretty much accepted by logical people that Nintendo is *not* doing it on purpose. Look at the numbers of Wii's they've produced and sold compared to other consoles. They're putting them out as fast as they can, and the demand has clearly exceeded their expectations.
Javvis
03-01-2008, 04:15 PM
I too am puzzled by the Wii frenzy ...the majority of games are crap ...yet the system sells like crazy. I did have a couple friends and two family members that bought them ...but, after the controller novelty wore off & they discovered how bad the games were ... they sold them. However ...I will buy one myself sometime in the future for Gamecube backwards compatibilty & the rare A+ Wii game that gets released.
njc311
03-01-2008, 04:29 PM
Wii's? Might as well just buy a brick attached to another smaller brick as the controller and swing it around like a monkey trying to knock some bananas of a tree.
LOL!!! :p
nissanztt90
03-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Nintendo would be simply retarded to limit supply, and they wouldnt do it for the retail chains in hope someone would come in for a Wii and get something else...what does Nintendo care about that for? The unit itself is pretty old...its a GameCube with the Wii-mote, theres no way they arent making a ton of money per unit, so cranking out as many as they can would be in their best interest. Another thing, the large chains tend to horde them in there warehouses so they can send them out every couple a weeks and gaurantee the store has at least n Wii's.
Direfox
03-01-2008, 04:55 PM
We may be getting pretty far off track for a Hotdeals thread, but one of the reasons Wii's are in such demand is the age range of the player base. In our town they actually have groups of seniors at the the local retirement home playing Wii. Its a great form of low inpact/range of motion exercise, and the people who run the place encourge it.
My mom and dad (who are NOT in a rest home :cool: )have played it and they are 69 and 63. There may be some old codgers playing xboxes and playstations, but nowhere near the amount playing Wii's. From 3 year olds to 90 year olds.... that a pretty impressive market share.
nissanztt90
03-01-2008, 05:05 PM
My brother bought one, and my parents play it all the time. (mid 50's)
DaRat
03-01-2008, 07:05 PM
With Smash brothers out next week, you're really gunna have fun finding wii's. Get them now because that game is going to kick ass
fatlazyhomer
03-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Any CC coupons out right now that can mark the price down? 40$ off? 10%?
franke3c
03-01-2008, 08:30 PM
i had my wii since 2nd week after launch... don't play it much but when i do its always fun..
i still can't believe 1yr+5mnths later this thing is still OOS almost everywhere
Specialist[X]
03-01-2008, 08:39 PM
did you see it on their website ad or what? because i cant find it anywhere on the weekly ad on their website.
domoMKIV
03-01-2008, 09:49 PM
I too am puzzled by the Wii frenzy ...the majority of games are crap ...yet the system sells like crazy. I did have a couple friends and two family members that bought them ...but, after the controller novelty wore off & they discovered how bad the games were ... they sold them. However ...I will buy one myself sometime in the future for Gamecube backwards compatibilty & the rare A+ Wii game that gets released.
amen, the only games im looking forward to are smash bros and mario kart.
letsmod
03-01-2008, 10:17 PM
;1032146596']did you see it on their website ad or what? because i cant find it anywhere on the weekly ad on their website.
it is in TOMORROW's ad!! A friend of mine works there and lets me peek at the ads
wishbone
03-01-2008, 11:58 PM
The Circuit City in Keizer Oregon had about 10 of these left on a table up front at 3:30 this afternoon.
rgratto2
03-02-2008, 01:57 AM
So in response to every dumbass saying there are no games, I just counted and I have 10 (or 9 depending on how you count wii sports):
Wii Sports
Zelda
Madden 07
Monkey Ball
Paper Mario
Metroid
No More Heroes
Guitar Hero 3
Mario Galaxy
Mario Strikers
Given that, and the upcoming Smash Brothers and Mario Kart, all the naysayers can just STFU already.
fatlazyhomer
03-02-2008, 02:05 AM
Do I detect Wii-rage?
Mav451
03-02-2008, 02:11 AM
ad[H]atte(r);1032144199']They're in stock everywhere locally, finding them is not an issue (mall, walmart, CC, BestBuy, EB, etc.). Must be larger cities having problems.
Heh, I say Nintendo should divert shipments from all the smaller cities to just the major metropolitan areas. Then, IFF (if and only if) smaller cities need more do you send additional shipments. Kinda like sending 30 units into Idaho, and only 5 of them get bought whereas the 20 shipped into NYC or DC are gone almost instantly. Just a stupid decision from Nintendo in that respect.
rgratto2
03-02-2008, 02:15 AM
Do I detect Wii-rage?
Nah just sick of bullshit.
Heh, I say Nintendo should divert shipments from all the smaller cities to just the major metropolitan areas. Then, IFF (if and only if) smaller cities need more do you send additional shipments. Kinda like sending 30 units into Idaho, and only 5 of them get bought whereas the 20 shipped into NYC or DC are gone almost instantly. Just a stupid decision from Nintendo in that respect.
Bravo on the IFF, that needs to circulate more. Isn't the shipping/distribution reliant more on the stores than on nintendo though? Doesn't each retailer order and ship out from their warehouses?
Diashto
03-02-2008, 01:07 PM
At this point, I definitely think Nintendo is causing a supply shortage on purpose. I don't see any reason why their supply can't meet up with demand at this point. I've been living in Germany for over 4 months now and frankly I'm surprised that there's still a shortage back in the US. Pretty much all the electronic stores I go to here have Wii's in stock and I even think some of them are still left over from the holiday season. Granted, that's speculation on my part but I see no reason for a surplus here and a shortage in the US. After all, I'm pretty sure all Nintendo has to do is flip a switch for the NTSC/PAL difference and throw in a different power adapter and POW, another Wii for North America. Anyway, I'm not going to be state-side for awhile but I do expect to see plenty of Wii's on the shelf for me to purchase when I do.
http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1373950.php
They've flat out said that the demand never went down after the initial holiday season. They were planning on stocking up over the summertime to deal with last years holiday season, and they were never able to. It surprised everyone, and they even doubled production to try and keep up.
Blue3ffect
03-02-2008, 01:16 PM
Nintendo would be simply retarded to limit supply, and they wouldnt do it for the retail chains in hope someone would come in for a Wii and get something else...what does Nintendo care about that for? The unit itself is pretty old...its a GameCube with the Wii-mote, theres no way they arent making a ton of money per unit, so cranking out as many as they can would be in their best interest. Another thing, the large chains tend to horde them in there warehouses so they can send them out every couple a weeks and gaurantee the store has at least n Wii's.
I didn't say that Nintendo would limit the supply for retail chains so that people would go in for the Wii and buy something else when it wasn't there. I simply said that retail chains probably like that that happens even though I am sure that the employees are sick of everyone asking whether there are any Wii's in the back, when they are getting more Wii's, if they could hold one for them, blah blah blah.
As for it being "simply retarded" for Nintendo to limit supply, I very highly disagree. Here it is over a year later and the hype and demand for the system is still high. It makes for good publicity for the system to constantly be in states of shortage as the only bad publicity for things like this (really for any electronics, for that matter) would be a significant number of units failing shortly out of the box. Your average Joe equates high demand, shortages, and a decent resale value to a very good product.
It does have its drawbacks to intentionally limiting supply as many have pointed out. Consumers may feel a bit shafted by the company when they try for weeks or even months to get a product and they just cant seem acquire one, some people might get too aggravated and just say "Screw this" and abandon buying one altogether or at least postpone it until the systems are outdated and then just buy it used from someone else, etc. So it has its drawbacks as well as its positive points. Whether it is what Nintendo is doing or if they really just are having manufacturing issues that they can't work out for some reason, I can't say that I personally know as I don't work for them :cool:
Specialist[X]
03-02-2008, 02:39 PM
all of them ran out of vouchers when i tried at opening hour.
matt fury
03-02-2008, 03:15 PM
I fucking totally forgot to get up this morning to profiteer.
SolidBladez
03-02-2008, 03:20 PM
;1032149371']all of them ran out of vouchers when i tried at opening hour.
You have to get there 3-4 hours before the store opens. I had to get to my Circuit City around 6AM and I was 9th in line at the time.
LeviathanZERO
03-02-2008, 04:12 PM
So in response to every dumbass saying there are no games, I just counted and I have 10 (or 9 depending on how you count wii sports):
Wii Sports
Zelda
Madden 07
Monkey Ball
Paper Mario
Metroid
No More Heroes
Guitar Hero 3
Mario Galaxy
Mario Strikers
Given that, and the upcoming Smash Brothers and Mario Kart, all the naysayers can just STFU already.
I have 12.
People just dont know how to buy the good games.....
nissanztt90
03-02-2008, 04:31 PM
I have 12.
People just dont know how to buy the good games.....
Not to mention all the downloadable content to bring back all those memories...
fatlazyhomer
03-02-2008, 04:41 PM
Thats sorta the thing I dont like about the Wii, its using "revolutionary" technology to play yesterday's games. Anyways, I nabbed one this morning. Now i just need a good deal on Brawl and maybe the ethernet adapter.
unterhausen
03-02-2008, 08:25 PM
if you do buy one for yourself, definitely register it online and get the extra warranty. My son's console is one month out of warranty, and the drive went kabloooie. One minute it would read, then it's totally dead.
Adionik
03-02-2008, 09:25 PM
I feel like i've turned Anti-Wii or something. Yes, I have one. Recently played RE: UC but wasn't overly impressed. Graphics are just a huge turn off with the price of the games. I would sell it, but I doubt the re-sale value would be astronomical. Got it for $150 off a friend...*shrug*
Warn3rv3
03-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Then sell it to Ebay sheeple. You'll make some coin and get that console you don't care for off your hands. Hell, you could even make some money on outrageous shipping quotes.
I feel like i've turned Anti-Wii or something. Yes, I have one. Recently played RE: UC but wasn't overly impressed. Graphics are just a huge turn off with the price of the games. I would sell it, but I doubt the re-sale value would be astronomical. Got it for $150 off a friend...*shrug*
junglicious
03-02-2008, 10:57 PM
Then sell it to Ebay sheeple. You'll make some coin and get that console you don't care for off your hands. Hell, you could even make some money on outrageous shipping quotes.
Sheeple...I know someone that uses that same phrase often. Some people charge high s/h fee is so they pay less a fee onces the auction is over because ebay does not charge you on s/h but on final sale price. If your stupid enough to buy something that is worth $10 but to find out the final price with s/h is $30, then who's the "sheeple"? The Wii is a family oriented console, like all Nintendo system are. So if your looking for all out action then you should look into the PS3.
The Wii being out of stock must be due to location only because around here you can find them at your local BB, Walmart, Target, CC, Costco, and even BK. Couldn't you purchase them online from a retailer and return it to the B&M store if something goes wrong?
For the matter that the Wii is not a console for you doesn't mean it will not appeal to the rest. Not everyone has the internet or know what PC gaming has to offer. The average consumer has 3 systems to choose from, 360 is a PC knock off, PS3 is more for "mature" audience, and the Wii which are for younger kids or family oriented. What's going to sale more, a system to people who might not be able to offer it or a parent who have 3 little rascal. Playing Super Smash Bro, Mario cart, and Golden Eye were one of my favorite games to play with friends and family. Also one of my favorite multiplayer experience. Yea the graphics are not the best, but the game play and personal interaction was what made it more fun. I would think the Wii would have the same affect.
Warn3rv3
03-02-2008, 11:07 PM
Umm, they would be the sheeple because they bought a $10 item with $30 S/h. I think i understand what you are trying to say though.
Sheeple...I know someone that uses that same phrase often. Some people charge high s/h fee is so they pay less fee onces the auction is over because ebay does not charge you on s/h but on final sale price. If your stupid enough to buy something that is worth $10 but to find out the final price with s/h is $30, then who's the "sheeple"? They Wii is a family oriented console, like all Nintendo system are. So if your looking for all out action then you should look into the PS3.
The Wii being out of stock must be due to location only because around here you can find them at your local BB, Walmart, Target, CC, Costco, and even BK. Couldn't you purchase them online from a retailer and return it to the B&M store if something goes wrong?
Adionik
03-03-2008, 02:26 AM
Monkey Ball with 5-6 of my friend was fun...but I like the console to atleast provide some entertainment when i'm at home.Ya know, when all your friends have kids. :D PS3/360 is for the more serious gaming though.
fatlazyhomer
03-03-2008, 03:00 AM
Man these controllers and accessories add up in cost.
Jasonx82
03-03-2008, 12:28 PM
smash bros this sunday!! :D:D Even though i barely touch the wii
JCDenton
03-03-2008, 12:45 PM
So in response to every dumbass saying there are no games, I just counted and I have 10 (or 9 depending on how you count wii sports):
Wii Sports
Zelda
Madden 07
Monkey Ball
Paper Mario
Metroid
No More Heroes
Guitar Hero 3
Mario Galaxy
Mario Strikers
Given that, and the upcoming Smash Brothers and Mario Kart, all the naysayers can just STFU already.
That's terrible for a system that has been out as long as the wii has, and some of those games are mediocre and a huge stretch to be put on any kind of list showing all the "great" games the Wii has.
I have a Wii but it's hard to justify ever buying any games for it. PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation games are worth maybe $5-$10 these days, and Wii games are basically the same. $50 is a ripoff for games developed for 7 year old hardware that cost almost nothing to make. Maybe $20 ($30 for something like Mario) is an OK price for Wii games when considering what they offer compared to current PC/PS3/360 games. The only Wii game I've even seen to make good use of the controller is Trauma Center. I'm a huge fan of Super Monkey Ball, but it's too bad that the Wii version is HORRIBLE compared to the gamecube versions.
It would have been much better for Nintendo to go 3rd party and release the Wiimote as a 360 peripheral. That way it would have only cost $40 to get that functionality instead of $250 and the games would also look current instead of like 7 year old garbage.
cnick79
03-03-2008, 01:01 PM
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It would have been much better for Nintendo to go 3rd party and release the Wiimote as a 360 peripheral. That way it would have only cost $40 to get that functionality instead of $250 and the games would also look current instead of like 7 year old garbage.
You mean it would be much better for Microsoft if Nintendo went 3rd party and released a Wiimote for the 360.
The current selection of Wii games are not the greatest but there are some good ones to own. The Wii is appealing to the masses from ages 2-102 nearly all of whom are not enthusiasts such as ones you will find on forums like this.
JCDenton
03-03-2008, 02:50 PM
You mean it would be much better for Microsoft if Nintendo went 3rd party and released a Wiimote for the 360.
The current selection of Wii games are not the greatest but there are some good ones to own. The Wii is appealing to the masses from ages 2-102 nearly all of whom are not enthusiasts such as ones you will find on forums like this.
Reread plz, I didn't say "Nintendo would be better off going third party", I said "It would have been much better for Nintendo to go third party." I don't care about what's good for Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony, I care about what's good for gamers, and Nintendo's arrogance has damaged us all.
FACT: The Wii costs an extra $210 over what it would cost to buy a 360 Wiimote
FACT: Every single game on the Wii would have benefited from being developed for the 360 instead, even if just from the high def support (LOL @ the wii for only supporting 480p)
Do you have any explanation as to why it would somehow be good for gamers to pay extra money for worse games? Nintendo staying in the console race is an arrogance-driven decision that doesn't serve its customers. It's nice that the theoretical audience of the Wii is people from "2-102" but the reality is that children and old people don't buy many games. This can be seen in the Wii's software tie ratios, which are absolutely miserable. And it can also be seen in the Wii's wretched third party support, which mostly consists of adding Wiimote support to ports of PS2/Xbox/GC games. None of the third parties want to put any money or effort into Wii games because Wii games don't sell.
The end result is that we're left with a $250 console used almost entirely to play crippled first party Nintendo games developed to last-gen spec. Not an efficient outcome at all, it reminds me of the HD-DVD/Blu Ray fiasco where customers were also damaged because the industry couldn't sort out its differences.
cnick79
03-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Reread plz, I didn't say "Nintendo would be better off going third party", I said "It would have been much better for Nintendo to go third party." I don't care about what's good for Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony, I care about what's good for gamers, and Nintendo's arrogance has damaged us all.
FACT: The Wii costs an extra $210 over what it would cost to buy a 360 Wiimote
FACT: Every single game on the Wii would have benefited from being developed for the 360 instead, even if just from the high def support (LOL @ the wii for only supporting 480p)
Do you have any explanation as to why it would somehow be good for gamers to pay extra money for worse games? Nintendo staying in the console race is an arrogance-driven decision that doesn't serve its customers. It's nice that the theoretical audience of the Wii is people from "2-102" but the reality is that children and old people don't buy many games. This can be seen in the Wii's software tie ratios, which are absolutely miserable. And it can also be seen in the Wii's wretched third party support, which mostly consists of adding Wiimote support to ports of PS2/Xbox/GC games. None of the third parties want to put any money or effort into Wii games because Wii games don't sell.
The end result is that we're left with a $250 console used almost entirely to play crippled first party Nintendo games developed to last-gen spec. Not an efficient outcome at all, it reminds me of the HD-DVD/Blu Ray fiasco where customers were also damaged because the industry couldn't sort out its differences.
No, I read you clearly. I was implying Mircosoft would be better off if Nintendo did that because it's one less console for Microsoft to compete with and you have to figure a percentage of Wii owners would now be 360 owners for the sake of the Wii's simplicity.
Mav451
03-03-2008, 09:06 PM
The end result is that we're left with a $250 console used almost entirely to play crippled first party Nintendo games developed to last-gen spec. Not an efficient outcome at all, it reminds me of the HD-DVD/Blu Ray fiasco where customers were also damaged because the industry couldn't sort out its differences.
Your argument had some of the typical 360/PS3 fanboy logic (and did make some sense) until this part - where is Wii even marginally close to either the 360 or PS3? I don't mean to quote the marketeer, Reggie, but he was right in saying it's new gen and not next gen. The HD-DVD / BD bullshit was a fight over the same thing - a high-def storage format. Wii is competing [ ]. There's no direct competitor to what Wii is doing.
Call it underpowered graphics. Call it "waggle". The 360 and PS3 are competing on visuals alone. Other than Rock Band, I can't say any game would tempt me to buy those high def boxes.
kumquat
03-03-2008, 09:07 PM
oh theres no doubt if it is indeed being done on purpose, it is definitely a great tactic to keep the demand and hype on their system very high. as far as the consumer goes though, its a pretty large shaft imo.
They sell 50-100 thousand more per week than the PS3 or XBox 360. Doesn't sound like a demand tactic to me.
fatlazyhomer
03-03-2008, 09:30 PM
There's no direct competitor to what Wii is doing.
Sure there is, its called real sports and activities.
Anyways, I think its safe to say that this deal is dead and this thread is lost.
TheToE!
03-03-2008, 10:17 PM
ad[H]atte(r);1032144199']They're in stock everywhere locally, finding them is not an issue (mall, walmart, CC, BestBuy, EB, etc.). Must be larger cities having problems.
I beg to differ! At least in my area. I have only seen a handfull since launch around here..
junglicious
03-03-2008, 10:58 PM
Sure there is, its called real sports and activities.
Anyways, I think its safe to say that this deal is dead and this thread is lost.
How things are going now, the virtual world is taking over. Haven't you heard the couch potato phrase? Its been around for a long time. Kids were even lacking in sports back then that they decide to do commercials and I'm sure campaigns about it. I remember seeing the commercials at least.
FACT: The Wii costs an extra $210 over what it would cost to buy a 360 Wiimote
FACT: Every single game on the Wii would have benefited from being developed for the 360 instead, even if just from the high def support (LOL @ the wii for only supporting 480p)
Those are not facts because facts are base on things that already exist and those two things you call "facts" do not exist. If people wanted to get a 360 then they would get a 360, but they didn't. Thats the beauty of options, you get to pick what you want. Again, the Wii is a family oriented console so it being tide with the 360 would contradict itself. Kids don't buy a lot of games but their supporters do and those supporters are parents. I know many parents and kids who have a lot of Wii games. They also do not care about the graphic to the extreme like some people would on this forum. Not everyone is expose to this awesome graphics you call PC gaming.
Robstar
03-04-2008, 10:01 PM
Wii's are in stock here as well. I am currently visiting Brazil and saw one at the grocery store for sale this morning. Pricing is 1790 brazillian reis, which according to cnn.com calculator is $1,072 US.
I'm sure you guys can guess why there isn't a shortage here ;) Then again, the xbox 360 ($2490 reais) and ps3 ($2950 reais) are also in stock.
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