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Zarathustra[H] said:

I wonder if this is what you were dealing with:

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I remember watching that a few months ago. I'm not sure if it's related to what I experienced. Thru all the research I did, 2 things were common: I'm not the only one who experienced very similar problems, and the issue occurred on MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, AsRock boards too from low end to high end. Another consistency I saw was most of the reports of it occurring happened 1-2 years ago during the transition from 400 series chipsets to 500 chipsets, and MSI and Gigabyte got bios out to fix the problem.
Coincidentally, when I went to Microcenter to buy the replacement MSI board... MC had the same Asus Tuf B550 board on sale... but it was marked as "mark II" version. And that version of the board is not mentioned on Asus website when I last looked. I'm betting there was a hardware revision likely to do with the VRM's.

It looks like we have memed something into reality. My wife actually brought this to my attention with the quote "I want the smell of of any intruder to be permanent."

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Lateralus said:

Look at that RGB finally putting in work, son

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Fucking amazing. I actually found a useful feature of RGB RAM sticks that doesn't involve enjoying the aesthetics of Leprechaun bukkake. Basically, if you got 2 Rainbow roads synced, you're good. If you got one stick trailing the other like a noob running Donkey Kong in Mario Kart and hitting every banana launched from the Toad in 1st place... you're fucked.

I'm currently debating whether to sell off this perfectly good set of 32GB GSkill TridentZ 3600mhz 2x16GB and RMA this AMD 5800X then sell off it's replacement too. Part of me says keep them for future issues since I've had so many.

As for the mobo.... well it's ASUS and we all know damn well how they treat RMA's. It's gonna die at the hands of 5.56 FMJ then pissing on it for good measure.

The weirdest part of all... The rig was stable for 1.5 years before all this BS started. I noticed the GSKill TridentZ RAM I purchased was actually running the RGB lights in a weird trailing pattern, one stick slower than the other instead of synced. Issues started, I replaced RAM with new Corsair LPX. Issue didn't go away until I applied a voltage offset of +0.1v to CPU. I then had windows issues so I reinstalled and did a BIOS update too. Then it worked for almost 6 months no problems until all of it started again and even got worse.

Lateralus said:

That's crazy. Don't know if you saw, but I think spammy just replaced his CPU due to the same thing. When I saw your post I was going to (kinda jokingly) suggest the CPU but figured as usual I'd be totally off base and it'd end up being one of those cheap XIAOFU fans you bought on Amazon

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Crazy is a god damned understatement. This fuckin 5800x with Asus mobo was actually MORE stable under load and overclocked before I replaced both of them. It defied every convention when it comes to system stability. Stress tests would obviously yield no instability because of it. I want to watch 1 youtube video or browse a website... fuck me the computer freezes. I let it sit for 5 minutes while I WFH and answer phone calls on the company laptop...fuck me the computer freezes. If it stayed on long enough for windows to put it to sleep... fuck me it would throw a Watchdog error and reboot. But god damn it had no problem running Prime95 for a day, memtest for a day, or even a fucking game for nearly 6 hours straight. To get it thru one day of not rebooting I literally had to spool Prime95 or run 1-2 youtube videos constantly keeping 3 or 4 CPU's actively running.

I may not be running dual 4090's, but that just means I can afford more blow.

Jokes on you. Not only has Nvidia stopped doing SLI for several generations now, powering be a bigger headache than a bitch of an ex wife.

I also ain't dealing with the case wiring again. FUCK THAT. That one motherboard screw in the back near the I/O? I have to use a special screwdriver just to get to that one.

LOL. no. Computers aren't like the used car market.

After 2 weeks of constant tinkering and trying to get my motherboard set right so I could just have a stable, non-overclocked system, I have finally done it.

I solved it in typical [H] fashion. I stopped fucking around and threw money into upgrades until the problem went away.

Turns out not only was my motherboard slowly dying, my CPU (AMD 5800X) was also dying. As rare as faulty CPU's are, I'm going put the blame for it's death on the motherboard too because... well... I don't have any other reason than FUCK ASUS.

I swapped the board from an ASUS TUF B550 to an MSI Tomahawk B550 Max. Tried all the same parts, reinstalled Windows, and got partial stability with a new windows install. It STILL wouldn't load windows without XMP ON, boosted VCore, PBO ON, and Auto OC ON and would still crash when at idle (no load) and getting Windows WHEA error 18. One thing I noticed off the bat though... the various voltages being supplied to the CPU weren't sagging anymore. The issue was never the RAM or PSU either. So I dealt with that headache for another day and gave up. I upgraded the 5800x to a 5900x. Everything went flawlessly on auto settings. I could even downclock the RAM and turn OFF XMP (it's re-enabled now and all 64GB running at 3600mhz).

So I've got 4 more CPU cores now, the chip runs a lot cooler at no load (sitting at 130mhz, 9w power, 27C right now just typing) and boosts higher than the other chip ever dreamed to 4.8ghz. Under load I can see it uses a lot more power according to Ryzen Master, but fuck the tree huggers AMIRITE?

Whelp. the voltage tweaks I put in got me 5.5 hours of both general use and gaming. I quit my game to go get a beer and come back to a DPC_Watchdog error blue screen. At least its an improvement.

SystemXS said:

Maybe we’ll have better luck with each others messed up stuff

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Ya. no. I think this is salvageable. Just gotta throw more at it and not give up.

I actually found some more things to tweak in an unlikely place. I actually found some info while looking for optimal settings for my RAM and trying to get it to its rated 3600mhz instead of running at 3200mhz.
Apparently one of the issues was the CLDO VDDG CCD voltage, CLDO VDDP voltage, and CLDO VDDG IOD voltages. Basically, when doing overclocking (be it thru Ryzen master, PBO, etc.) these all get a boost. So this is why putting the CPU under heavy load like a game makes it more stable. But going back to basic stuff like youtube, netflix, general use, or even idling... all this goes away because its not enough load to trigger it and the base voltages on these settings is barely enough. So right now I've boosted those volts, but keeping RAM at a normal speed 3200mhz and the Infinity Fabric set manually at 1600mhz. it's made it twice as long on a youtube video than usual. I'm gonna let it ride. If I don't get this fixed I'm installing this new MSI board. I got 30 day return window.

Axman said:

Can you down-clock the CPU/RAM and test stability? That would help you figure out if it's the mobo or not.

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I've done all of that. The more steps I try, the worse it gets. Disabling PBO doesn't work. Disabling c-states doesn't work. Disabling XMP/DOCP actually results in no post. The Damn thing is actually more stable when I let it overclock/turbo itself. 3 hours gaming, no issues. Quit the game, 5 minutes of no load, it crashes. Basically, stability tests won't track it down because putting a load on it makes it more stable. It passes memtest and other benchmarks. My hunch is it is a voltage issue, and some boards got bios updates to fix it. I'm on latest bios, and frankly don't want to flash an older one.

I'm at my wits end with the stability of my PC. 6 months ago, I was dealing with constant crashes and lockups. I've narrowed down the issue to the CPU or motherboard. Now the same issues are back. Rather than posting a wall of text, these are the sort of issues I'm having: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/k316uh/ryzen_5000_pc_crashes_help_whea_logger/ . I'm about to just by an MSI B550 Tomahawk Max from MC. Good buy?