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Um what? How in the world is that nice? You derive pleasure from seeing consoles excluded from a deal?

on the other hand, they could be an adult about it, answer the door, and take responsibility for their actions

want: full EAX support (for legacy titles) high SNR (in the realm of ~120 like currently available "high end" cards) 5.1 or higher analog output (cuz I don't have an amazing speaker set with even better DAC's than the soundcard would) Someday I hope such a card exists. Very annoying all...

um, what? They're not a gimmick. I'm posting because I'm confirming that the 4pin headers cannot fan speed control 3pin fans. It's would not be a new thing for ASUS boards, in my experience. The nature of my query would also confirm that TO control a 3pin fan, I need to select a particular...

Then why with a 3pin in CPU is the fan running at full speed even on "silent" mode, and using the "test" function in Fan Xpert it comes up with full speed for fan powers 20-100%? I recall only one ASUS board I had where the 4pin header could control both 4 pin and 3 pin fans. (P5W-DH Deluxe) My...

You keep putting your foot in your mouth. It's an expression. Your bewilderment at it's use only heaps on the head shaking at your expense. Yes. Instead of those valuable metrics, pre-release videos hold more water with you. This is why you deserve derision, and why I commented in the first...

anyone who derides achievements hasn't played a game with creative ones, that breath new life and perspective into the games. like the original pacifist one in Geometry Wars

Yeah who's Twisted Pixel? They haven't made several several top notch games in a row in the last couple years, several winning awards and user best of votes? They couldn't possibly be one of the most original and funny game developers around now, right? How did you fit both feet in your...

Oh so you haven't played the one the article. And yet you're telling us how it's a piece of shit. How does your foot taste? And I am serious, or have you not played that one either? (you haven't)

Child of Eden.

Oh, you've played it? :rolleyes:

Biting innocents isn't cool though.

I welcome any and all efforts to bite pirates back.

80% of people experience elements of sexuality in some of their conversations. text messaging is a medium for conversations. it doesn't need a special name, and it's not surprising in. any. way.

3 pin fans - this board cannot control them when they're in the 4 pin sockets? Is that correct? So CPU / CPU_OPT / CHA_1 are all out? Only option is CHA_2 near the DIMM slots?

the mounting system for the VX i got already seems like there will be at least one less clearance issue (with the VRM heatsink)

are there any "quiet" (ie, on the level of air cooling) water kits? I'm under the impression even with good fans, the pump system will always be noticeable/noisy and not as quiet as fans/air cooling alone.

so I got the bracket in the end but I'm having 2nd thoughts (currently using the intel cooler just to have got the rig up and running). the bracket kit feels like a bit of a jerry-rig solution to me, and on my board there are several clearance issues. the first is that the non metal (plastic?)...

hmmm, I read somewhere it could do it over HDMI... would test out if I had something near the pc...

was anyone else having trouble installing the Ai Suite? I see on ASUS forums a rep said to install the "patcher" thing from a P8P67's download page first. brand new Win 7 SP1 install and the package was not installing from disc or latest download.

Can someone confirm that even on the newest boards and procs, that Intel HD Graphics (Sandy Bridge) doesn't support dual link DVI, and thus cannot output @ 2560x1600? I read they can over HDMI and Displayport, but...

... is CMSS 3D stereo surround affect the output whatsoever from multi channel audio games; ie, is it make the output worse or not what was intended by the designers? OR does it have zero effect on multi channel sources, like games. it does something for 2 channel sources. does it do...

stereo xpand sounds like crap i think in any situation. I should have been more clear though - how stereo surround cmss 3d affects games with native multi surround sound I assume it must affect the sound output, if stereo xpand does

Earl I cannot tell you how much I hate responses like that to tech questions. There is a RIGHT and a WRONG answer. "do whatever you like" is a non-answer, and goes without saying. I'm not four years old; I'm pretty sure that if I wanted something, I'd be aware that I could do it. Either...

I'm getting conflicting information. On one hand, some say to disable CMSS 3D in creative audio drivers for 5.1 sources, as you'd be upmixing channels when they already all receive their own discrete information. It would muddy the sound and degrade the quality to some degree. On the other...

anyone?

you don't know when to shut up, do you

reported for thread crapping / jacking / trolling

You need to just quit because you're going off on so many tangents that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Asus cards do not do EAX, so I'm not interested in them. End of story.

your word dude "DS3D GX works by intercepting DirectSound 3D and EAX calls generated by games and redirecting them to Asus' own audio processing engine, which then attempts to mimic the intended effects." "Asus admits that its implementation won't exactly reproduce EAX 5.0, but the company...

your 2nd quote back there has nothing to do with anything I've said or that this thread is about. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eax&l=1 http://www.creative.com/soundblaster/technology/welcome_flash.asp?j1=eax

since they first made their cards and haven't had EAX licensed to them by Creative. Auzentech's chart says they do 2.0. There's 3 levels above that.

Anyways seems the only real options are the Titanium, the Prelude, and the Forte. (Ti HD doesn't do analog multi out, ASUS doesn't do EAX) I'd upgrade from my Platinum to the Ti just for the PCIe sake of having a cleaner inside, let alone newer chip / DDL support. The Prelude supposedly offers...

Why what didn't work?

yup. every XP game runs flawlessly without any extra configuration apart from running as admin. edit: what are you even arguing for here? a Ti card?

not only new cards. just the best card period. there arent many XP EAX cards out there. Only Creative's and Auzentech, right? Some mobo's have integrated EAX, but only up to 3.0 Why would Auzentech's be better? Higher SNR or something? Are there any downsides to them compared to Creative's...

so for god's sake already, please NAME what card(s) are better than the X-Fi ti for XP for gaming (with full EAX support)

I don't think you guys are getting what my topic/question is. ALchemy issues are ONE possible type of issue when running an XP game on 7. There are things like extension limits for gpu drivers, and hardware acceleration and all sorts of crap. Running XP games is always going to be eaiser ON...

5.1 is not the only thing ALchemy achieves. Are you saying a non Creative card is giving you the EAX effects? Because I doubt that.

but I don't want to bother with workarounds for sound on top of the workarounds for video on top of the workarounds for controls on top of the workarounds.... XP is the best environment to play XP games. I believe this is the best gaming audio XP will ever have...? Or is there something...