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You know the one that goes "Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking like a fool with your pants on the ground." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl_HvEHSlxQ The Pants are symbolic as they represent Nvidia's CEO's pants on the ground and Fermi represents his non-existent woohoo. :D

My complaint isn't with how gpus have been coming out all that frequently, my complaint is that the performance difference from generation to generation has been simply sub-par, lacking innovation, and causing me to question the validity of the "competition" between these two companies.

Someone needs to start challenging these companies, because they are just fine and dandy "competing" with eachother and providing a few fps increase here and there and then slapping a $400 price tag on it. Frankly, and Shankly, people are fed up with it.

This isn't about Fermi. It's about Nvidia and ATI's failure.

If I do get a response from the CEOs it will probably be some robotic PR response any way.

I emailed both CEOs of Nvidia and ATI and expressed my concern. I asked them to post a response to this forum, but I doubt they will as they would probably be too chicken to, but it was worth a shot.

As we embark on Nvidia's next generation of cards....I remain an optimist, but I am pretty sure that Fermi isn't going to be revolutionary or exciting. What we will see is just a fps improvement, we are not going to see avatar-like graphics any time soon. Whatever fps improvement, whether it be...

I posted this to explore the issue, not to blame a company. I also made it clear to point out that this has been an issue with both Nvidia and ATI with their recent driver release. My 5870 has personally been flawless and I have used all the drivers up to 10.1 - but seeing some of the complaints...

This possible? There were complaints from consumers of both camps(Nvidia and ATI) that drivers has caused their video cards to die. If someone could prove this you probably could open a class action suit though if you can some how prove it was the driver's that caused led to the video card's...

Is it really possible that drivers are causing video cards to die?

I am not amused, and this fermi business is quite dull.

Man I hope your joking. These cards run very cool at idle. Most of the games I play don't put much of a load on this card...so the low 60s is just from playing mw2, not crysis or anything.

I don't OC, but I don't care about benchmarks. I care more about my vid card lasting though then a 5 fps average improvement.

My 5870 idles in the high 20s and usually is low 60s when gaming on the stock cooler

Never had a GSOD with my xfx 5870. This card has been rock solid for me, I don't think I could ever give this card up. Might hold on to this one as long as the 9800pro(owned it and used it for 4 years.)

What improvements are there from 10.1 to 10.2?

Sorry but even for Nvidia, that is low. :p

Lol, as if dx11 is some how relavent. I did not buy my 5870 for dx11 I can tell you that much.

I wonder if Nvidia's IQ for both gaming and video will finally be as good as ATI.

His source works at Marshalls, my source works at Nvidia ;) - you be the judge

Usually just give them to my grandma. She is a Network Administrator for Intel.

DRM in crysis warhead wasn't bad or didn't bother me. If you have a bad ISP, I could see this being an issue though.

I don't think it's necessary since it's a multiplayer game and everyone will need a key to play multiplayer. It'd be nice where I can actually play a game without stupid steam or stupid ms live game login requirement. I remember back in the good old days we could just click on the game shortcut...

I know what they are announcing. I cannot say due to NDA.

Makes no sense to choose any other brand.

Best response in this thread. If it can't compete price wise then who gives a shit?

You can't be curious or you would care. Right now I'm not curious because I know the outcome after Fermi is released, and I know how well it will perform against the 5800 series, and I know what the release prices will be.

People have been gaming with those 5xxx series cards for quite some time now I'm sure. If you are going to ask yourself every time you buy some kind of tech as to whether you made an unwise decision after using it for half a year, then you probably shouldn't buy anything tech related.

I use to, but now I don't because: 1) I'm sick of the rumors/speculation 2) Typical Nvidia BS with the CEO using a prop video card 3) I know this video card isn't going to be that big of a deal...oh wow, 10 or more fps here and there....wow, how exciting and revolutionary(sarcasm). Another...

Poll. :p

Stock cooler is better.

Baking components would release toxic stuff in your place.... Your health might be more important than saving a $100 video card. Good luck.

Lame.

Doubt it....:D

Upgrade after March and see what gf100 has to offer. but if you must I'd get the xfx 5870.

Beta is already out, just download and play it.

As much as you missed your crack pipe? :D

Why would you think this? I started a thread saying how the release of bad company 2 and the nvidia's gf100 series probably means it's a twimtbp title, and yet people didn't believe. me. Turns out it was: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1494442&page=2 I seem to prove a lot of...

I must admit, getting a bad company 2 bundle would be awesome, and more desirable than Dirt 2. I just hope in the final release there isn't issues with ATI cards because I want to enjoy this game. If there are issues I will never buy EA again, I hope EA gets this message.

I think [H]ard gave mw2 too high of a mark at 9.5 in their video review of modern warfare 2. I would not of given the game a 9.5/10, but more like a 8.5 verall. I did not know Kyle reviewed games, but he did bring up good points. Link Removed Kyle's note to the folks that made this video for...