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Old 07-09-2007, 02:57 PM
reubenray [H]Lite, 2.6 Years
 
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Intel DP35DP?

Does anyone have this motherboard and if so how is it working?

I am new here and have been looking for a search feature and did try one with no luck.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:55 PM
kirbyrj [H]ardForum Junkie, 5.0 Years
 
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Well, it looks like it's a pretty cheap board, so that's a plus.

It doesn't look like it has any bios options for OCing or even for setting memory timings or voltage options. Pretty much it's a put in the components, and hope your By SPD timings on your memory are fine (they usually are...just don't get super expensive memory). It's a set it and forget it type of motherboard as it will probably run a good long time with minimal aggravation.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:51 AM
reubenray [H]Lite, 2.6 Years
 
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Well, it looks like it's a pretty cheap board, so that's a plus.

It doesn't look like it has any bios options for OCing or even for setting memory timings or voltage options. Pretty much it's a put in the components, and hope your By SPD timings on your memory are fine (they usually are...just don't get super expensive memory). It's a set it and forget it type of motherboard as it will probably run a good long time with minimal aggravation.
Which is what I want. I do not know how nor have time to do OCing or setting memory timings or voltage options. It was one of very few options that had the amount of PCI slots plus firewire that I needed. If I could find a better card with the amount of PCI slots (3 PCI, 2 or 3 PCIe x1 and 1 PCIe x 16) I want I could probably give up the firewire. My concern is the reviews also point out how bad customer service is with Intel.

What do you mean by "hope your By SPD timings on your memory are fine (they usually are...just don't get super expensive memory)"? Memory is the next step to look for so do you have any recommendations. I would want at least 1 but will probably get 2 GB.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:16 PM
kirbyrj [H]ardForum Junkie, 5.0 Years
 
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Which is what I want. I do not know how nor have time to do OCing or setting memory timings or voltage options. It was one of very few options that had the amount of PCI slots plus firewire that I needed. If I could find a better card with the amount of PCI slots (3 PCI, 2 or 3 PCIe x1 and 1 PCIe x 16) I want I could probably give up the firewire. My concern is the reviews also point out how bad customer service is with Intel.

What do you mean by "hope your By SPD timings on your memory are fine (they usually are...just don't get super expensive memory)"? Memory is the next step to look for so do you have any recommendations. I would want at least 1 but will probably get 2 GB.
Most companies that advertise DDR2 800 speeds with Cas 4 timings actually come with Cas 5 timings because it will boot that way at lower voltages. Then you'd go into your bios and adjust the voltage and timings manually. Since you can't adjust your memory voltages, you want something that will run at the default 1.8V. Most value RAM should be fine. I would say pretty much any Cas 5 DDR2 800 memory should boot up without too much trouble. Just check the voltages to make sure you don't get memory that needs more than 1.9V or so.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:26 PM
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Here is the deal with memory (simplified or it would take 2 days to explain), there is a standards body called JEDEC that establishes memory timing specifications on both memory speed and timings. They have not established standards for OCing memory.

JEDEC standard for DDR2 is 5-5-5-15 at 1.8V

Memory sticks have a pre-programmed chip on them (called the SPD chip) with standard timings per JEDEC so that the memory will work in any board it is plugged into. High performacne memory will perform much better than these standard SPD settings. However you must be able to manually go into the bios settings and set up these "better" timings and speeds. If you can not, it is a total waste of money to buy such memory and you are better off with standard "value" ram. It will work fine.

It all depends on the processor you choose. The board will read the processors FSB id settings and set up all the frequencies according to the cpu.

The intel standards are,
For Core 2 duo and quads the cpu runs at:
800MHz FSB (200MHz actual FSB x 4 (called quad pumped) )
1066MHz FSB (266MHz actual FSB x 4 (called quad pumped) )
1333MHz FSB (333MHz actual FSB x 4 (called quad pumped) )

Thats the way Intel rates the cpu.
Actual cpu speed is determined by the actual FSB x the default CPU multiplier.

For example an E6300 has a default multiplier of 7 and is rated by Intel as a 1066MHz FSB part so it runs at stock/default settings at 7 x 266Mz actual FSB = 1.8GHz

Here is the point,
Where you cannot adjust things, memory runs at 2 x the actual FSB on intel boards.
So if you have no adjustments the memory will run at whatever timings are in the SPD chip .


800MHz FSB cpu - memory will run at 2 x 200MHz actual FSB = 400MHz memory speed
This is DDR2 (PC3200) 400MHz memory.

1066MHz FSB cpu - memory will run at 2 x 266MHz actual FSB = 533MHz memory speed
This is DDR2(PC4200) 533MHz memory

1333MHz FSB cpu - memory will run at 2 x 333MHz actual FSB = 667MHz memory speed
This is DDR2(PC5300) 667MHz memory.


With no adjustments in the bios you want to match the memory to the cpu you choose so you do not waste money. You can always choose memory rated for a higher speed if you think you will upgrade the cpu at some other time, for instance with the cheap ram prices now I would go with PC5300 memory (667MHz) and you will be covered for any cpu you put in it. However it would make no sense to buy fancy OCing memory as you will not be able to manually set up the OCing fast timings, the board will read the standard SPD timings and use them and that is it.

So there is NO sense in buying anything faster than PC5300 memory, you do NOT want memory that uses a voltage other than 1.8V (it might not boot) and timings faster than 5 5 5 15 will be wasted.

So something like this is all you would ever need.

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-5400PHU2-2GBNT - Retail

Cas Latency: 5
Heat Spreader: No
Labor: Lifetime
Parts: Lifetime
Timing: 5-5-5-15
Voltage: 1.8V

Model #: F2-5400PHU2-2GBNT
Item #: N82E16820231055

Somthing like this would be a waste. It would work but you would have no way of using the better timings and if you got a stick that needed more than 1.8 V to be stable you might be in trouble.

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-5400PHU2-2GBLA - Retail

Cas Latency: 4
Heat Spreader: Yes
Labor: Lifetime limited
Parts: Lifetime limited
Timing: 4-4-4-12
Voltage: 1.8V - 2.0V

Model #: F2-5400PHU2-2GBLA
Item #: N82E16820231051
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy


The above are not memory recommendations by me, I like Corsair and would recommend this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098


Anyway hope this helped, bottom line, without frequency and timings adjustments in the boards bios, it is a waste of money to put in high performace stuff, you just will not be able to use the high performace features and it will default to slow timings. You want plain Jane "stock" memory unless you wish to buy now for some future upgrade and as the market will be moving to DDR3, it has already started, I am not sure that would be a good idea.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:00 PM
reubenray [H]Lite, 2.6 Years
 
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Here is what I plan on ordering.

1) Intel e6750 (after price cuts)
2) Intel DP35DP motherboard
3) CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS2GBKIT667D2
4) Radeon HD2600XT video card

I still have to get a CPU-heatsink/fan and decide what Windows version to get.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:09 PM
kirbyrj [H]ardForum Junkie, 5.0 Years
 
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If you're not OCing (which you won't be able to do on that board), the stock HSF should be fine unless you're after something uber quiet. The rest of the parts look fine. Should be a good little system for you.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reubenray View Post
Here is what I plan on ordering.

1) Intel e6750 (after price cuts)
2) Intel DP35DP motherboard
3) CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS2GBKIT667D2
4) Radeon HD2600XT video card

I still have to get a CPU-heatsink/fan and decide what Windows version to get.
You should have no problems. That board does look nice for non-oc'ers, it's basically the P35 version of my P965LT. I see they finally, FINALLY scrapped the floppy connector.. nobody will miss it. The PS2 connectors being gone might be a hassle for some people that are on PS2 keyboards.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:10 AM
reubenray [H]Lite, 2.6 Years
 
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I actually do have a floppy in my current HTPC case, but do not use it anymore. It will just stay there where I will not have a hole.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:54 AM
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I have the DP35DP board now and a QX6800 (retail boxed) CPU.
My plans are to replace my current system with this set up.
My current system is an Asus A8N32 SLI deluxe mobo with an AMD64 X2 4800 cpu.

My hope is that this new Intel system will be notably faster than my current AMD system.
My question to you guys is this:

Since this is NOT an over clockers board which is fine by me, and I have the QX6800 CPU going in, what memory would be best for me with this set up?

I read the above posts but I am still unsure which memory to get that will give me the fastest set up with the CPU I have?

Forgive me for sounding noob but I have been an AMD guy for a few years now and I am just venturing into the Intel realm.

My CPU has the following markings on the top of the chip:

Intel '05 QX6800
SLACP MALAY
2.93 GHZ/8M/1066/05B
L723A657

Am I good to go with this set up?
I would like to run 4 gigs of memory in this system even though I know I can only address a little over 3 GB in XP32 or Vista 32.
Please let me know what you think
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:52 AM
BillParrish Moderator, 3.5 Years
 
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OK all of the above is true however I looked at the board specs closely, that board does not have memory timing adjustments but it will use memory mulitpliers (dont worrry about it) that will allow the use or PC6400 (DDR2 - 800MHz ) ram. So it can use faster ram than was mentioned above but you still cannot adjust the timings.

http://www.intel.com/products/mother...35DP/index.htm

So ANY CAS5 PC6400 800MHz DDR2 1.8-1.9V ram will do the trick and be the fastest thing you can put in the board.

I recommend this as it has 5 5 5 15 timings and is the least expensive, there are some 5 5 5 18 sticks that are less but you said you wanted the fastest.

This is the fastest, least expensive ram sold on newegg that work fine in your board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820313019

Last edited by BillParrish; 08-01-2007 at 11:16 AM..
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:57 AM
ambientZ [H]ard|Gawd, 6.0 Years
 
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I have the intel dp35dp board with an E6850, it works fine. There are NO settings for ram or cpu, so forget about OC'ing.

For memory i have 4x1gb sticks from kingston. Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail I bought 2 of these kits, they are supposed to run fine at 1.8V, and they do from what i can tell.
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