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Old 11-03-2009, 03:34 PM
icehole Limp Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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UAC question WIndows 7 x64

I installed several of my XP applications on my Win7 system. Is there any way to get the programs to run without UAC popping up and saying "Do you want to let this program mess with your junk, Yo!"?

Running as administrator and as compatible to XP doesn't help. They run but I still get the pop-up box.

I would like to get Acronis and other programs to run unattended without having to completely turn off UAC. Is that possible?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Uberbob102000 [H]ard|Gawd, 3.6 Years
 
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Not as far as I know, I'm pretty sure you still can't whitelist things.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:43 PM
phide [H]ardness Supreme, 5.5 Years
 
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To my knowledge, no. You can't flag applications as being always safe, so you cannot bypass UAC prompts.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
Vermillion [H]ard|Gawd, 2.6 Years
 
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Like others have said the answer is no.

You could try loading up XP Mode and running the programs through that. Acronis though probably wouldn't do what you want it to.

Do newer versions of Acronis require admin rights under Vista/7 to do its job?

Best option honestly is try to replace the software with newer versions that don't require admin rights (which is better in the long run) or find an alternative that doesn't require admin rights.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:19 PM
icehole Limp Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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Thanks for the replies. Guess I either dump UAC or bite the bullet and upgrade.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Mister Natural [H]ard|Gawd, 7.1 Years
 
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I just re-installed Quake 4 and getting that prompt every time I execute the game. Honestly it isn't a big deal to just click YES and be done with it. I'd rather do that than lower UAC settings.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:33 PM
Direwolf20 2[H]4U, 5.7 Years
 
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I went and turned off the UAC settings. I tried it for a bit, but decided that I usually know what I'm doing.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Azhar [H]ardness Supreme, 3.0 Years
 
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I went and turned off the UAC settings. I tried it for a bit, but decided that I usually know what I'm doing.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:42 PM
Direwolf20 2[H]4U, 5.7 Years
 
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Thats why I said 'Usually' .

Also, on the subject, interesting article here
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Vermillion [H]ard|Gawd, 2.6 Years
 
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Thats why I said 'Usually' .

Also, on the subject, interesting article here
That article is exactly what I was afraid of when UAC was set lower by default. Sounds like some virus/malware might already be making use of the UAC whitelist.

http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/...hitelist2.html

Thus why my UAC is and forever shall be maxed out.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Direwolf20 2[H]4U, 5.7 Years
 
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I could check when I get home from work, but whats the difference between its 'default' and maxed out setting? I had it on default for a while, and turned it off after a bit. CCleaner and Steam would trigger it all the time.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:55 PM
Vermillion [H]ard|Gawd, 2.6 Years
 
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I could check when I get home from work, but whats the difference between its 'default' and maxed out setting? I had it on default for a while, and turned it off after a bit. CCleaner and Steam would trigger it all the time.
Default doesn't throw a UAC prompt when you make a system level change via something like msconfig if I remember right. 3rd party programs still throw UAC prompts when they make a change to Windows.

However, the whitelist issue in the link I provided allows 3rd party programs to get around that...
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:13 PM
icehole Limp Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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I just re-installed Quake 4 and getting that prompt every time I execute the game. Honestly it isn't a big deal to just click YES and be done with it. I'd rather do that than lower UAC settings.
That's not a problem if you're setting in front of the computer. If I have Acronis set to do a backup at 5 pm when I'm usually off doing something else and I come back at 8 and there is this damn pop-up box from UAC and nothing has been done it's a problem.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:09 PM
phide [H]ardness Supreme, 5.5 Years
 
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As Vermillion said, your best option would be to replace Acronis with something that doesn't demand administrator rights for every action. I know it's not the same, but Cobian Backup only requires elevation during start-up. Windows' internal backup scheme doesn't require elevation (not that I'd use it).
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:10 PM
Direwolf20 2[H]4U, 5.7 Years
 
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Well, I would keep UAC on if I could whitelist my own programs. I'd like to say that CCleaner and Steam are a-ok.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:51 PM
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As Vermillion said, your best option would be to replace Acronis with something that doesn't demand administrator rights for every action. I know it's not the same, but Cobian Backup only requires elevation during start-up. Windows' internal backup scheme doesn't require elevation (not that I'd use it).
I have used Cobian and like that it saves as ZIP files that can be opened by any archive program but it can't do an image backup,

There also seems to be an issue with how Acronis 11 locks the hard drives during it's operation. The external drive I backup to becomes write protected so is worthless.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:51 PM
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I didn't mess with it much, but I believe you can auto-elevate programs if you make a scheduled task that runs elevated. Then you can make a short cut to the scheduled task and it will run without uac when you click the shortcut or at the appropiate time.

Here's a link I found on this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:49 PM
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Just turn the entire thing off.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:11 AM
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Just turn the entire thing off.
Right because UAC is useless...
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:16 AM
Vermillion [H]ard|Gawd, 2.6 Years
 
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Well, I would keep UAC on if I could whitelist my own programs. I'd like to say that CCleaner and Steam are a-ok.
I don't have Steam running at startup but is that when you see the UAC prompt? I get no prompt from Steam when I start it manually.

The only 3 programs I use that need me to run as administrator and deal with the UAC prompt is Spywareblaster, Spybot and Malwarebytes. Nothing else requires a UAC prompt unless I'm doing something at the system level like messing with services or installing a program. 3 prompts is a small price to pay for the level of added protection especially when my wife gets funky popups from Facebook. If only I could get her to ditch that website.

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Just turn the entire thing off.
That's just being plain stupid.
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