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Old 11-26-2006, 12:51 PM
kumquat 2[H]4U, 4.2 Years
 
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Wii: Component vs Composite comparison pics (bandwidth warning!)

OK, so I decided to take some comparison pictures of component and composite output on the Wii.

These were all taken with a Canon A530. The display is a 50" plasma with a resolution of 1366x768.

Most of the images are cropped "detail" comparisons, but I included two full-screen Zelda shots at the end.




Here we see a detail of the title screen from Zelda.




This is an image of Link-wolf at the exact same place. Forgive me capturing the cursor fairy in the composite image. The difference in detail is still obvious.




This is a cropped shot of the saved games list.




This is a detail shot of Midna at the "up" D-pad location.




These are different trees from Wii Golf. I accidentally took the shot of the wrong title screen for the composite shot, but the trees are about the same size and distance away.




This is a crop of the closeup from Bowling.




This is a crop of the score header from Bowling.


Here is the Zelda title screen:





Here is the Zelda game screen:




I didn't include many full screens because the differences are too difficult to see when the images are shrunk so much.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:02 PM
GoldenTiger [H]ardness Supreme, 5.2 Years
 
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GREAT post!
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:02 PM
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thats a pretty big improvement
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:03 PM
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Gonna assume the left and top ones are the components with the rights and bottoms being the rca craps.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:06 PM
HighwayAssassins [H]ardness Supreme, 5.9 Years
 
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Awesome thread man. So, you are of course playing on an HDTV right? Would these differences be so apparent on my large 40 inch normal TV? I know on your HDTV it would still be 480i, but its worth asking...
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:07 PM
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courtesy of Sabre

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162297/p-2.html

the component cables are definately the way to go on the Wii
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:09 PM
GoldenTiger [H]ardness Supreme, 5.2 Years
 
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Originally Posted by nobody_here
courtesy of Sabre

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162297/p-2.html

the component cables are definately the way to go on the Wii
Yep, for those who have a component input on their TV's, it's a great $30 investment .
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:14 PM
nobody_here [H]ardness Supreme, 4.0 Years
 
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i just wouldn't be waiting for those inferior aftermarket cables, $30 is a deal if the Nintendo branded cables are decent, too bad they couldn't have bundled them with the systems, it would not have cost them anything appreciably more, a few bucks, but they are already making money off of each console, so it's not like they would have went further in the hole doing it, like M$ did
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:21 PM
GoldenTiger [H]ardness Supreme, 5.2 Years
 
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i just wouldn't be waiting for those inferior aftermarket cables, $30 is a deal if the Nintendo branded cables are decent, too bad they couldn't have bundled them with the systems, it would not have cost them anything appreciably more, a few bucks, but they are already making money off of each console, so it's not like they would have went further in the hole doing it, like M$ did

Due to the fact that a small minority of the country owns an HDTV in their homes (about 15% from the last figures I have seen), most would be FORCED to pay more for something they have no use for were the cables to be bundled. In addition, Nintendo is first and foremost a business, their goal is of course to make money (nothing wrong with this). By selling the cables separately, they create a profit-making product as an add-on for the small number of Wii buyers who want a component video input cable set. For those with an HDTV, they see it as a worthy UPGRADE. For those without, they are thankful to not have had to have paid for them without an option. For Nintendo, they make more money. Win-win everywhere, basically.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighwayAssassins
Awesome thread man. So, you are of course playing on an HDTV right? Would these differences be so apparent on my large 40 inch normal TV? I know on your HDTV it would still be 480i, but its worth asking...
If your TV has component inputs, it will definitely look much better.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:22 PM
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are these component shots also 480p or not?
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:23 PM
kumquat 2[H]4U, 4.2 Years
 
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are these component shots also 480p or not?
They are 480p.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:25 PM
kumquat 2[H]4U, 4.2 Years
 
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Gonna assume the left and top ones are the components with the rights and bottoms being the rca craps.
Yes, except I accidentally put the composite shot on the left in the wolf picture.

Also note that the component signals are being carried by 22-gauge wire attached to alligator clips and paper clips. Totally unshielded.. certainly not high quality connections here. I'm sure the quality won't be noticeably different with the "real" cables, though.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:44 PM
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These look outstanding, when i got components for my Ps2 i noticed a slight improvement.


With my regular old sdtv will component make the wii look a lot better, or eh?
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaRat
These look outstanding, when i got components for my Ps2 i noticed a slight improvement.


With my regular old sdtv will component make the wii look a lot better, or eh?
It should look significantly better.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:49 PM
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Great post!

Just makes it suck even more how hard the cables are to come by...
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:51 PM
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If it has the ports it can make the color separation and clarity a bit better. But its still going to be interlaced. I have found that DVDs look much better just running those cables over the single component on my 27" sdtv that has composite ports. (no progressive scan support though )
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Old 11-26-2006, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaRat
These look outstanding, when i got components for my Ps2 i noticed a slight improvement.


With my regular old sdtv will component make the wii look a lot better, or eh?
Judging from my experience with my 50" SDTV w/ PS2 on Svid and Component, I saw no 480i diff from Svideo to Component, but I did see a jump from composite to Svid.
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:53 PM
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Nice post. Can't wait to get mine
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Old 11-26-2006, 05:01 PM
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Well graphics be damned the title screen is enough to make me drool
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