AMD AM2 x2 3800+ (45 Watt version - Overclocker's Dream) - Virgin Chip for sale.

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I bought an HP slimline s3020n. It comes with an AMD AM2 x2 3800+ (45 watt variant)

The motherboard on these slimlines has no ability to overclock whatsoever, so I upgraded to a stock x2 5200+ (65 watt variant) which is the max the motherboard supports.

The x2 3800+ that came with the machine and has only been used a couple days is for sale now. It has never been overclocked. Lots of reports on these 3800's x2's (45 watt) mention going from the stock 2.0 Ghz core speed to 2.7 and 2.8Ghz on air cooling making it rival AMD 6000+ x2 chips.

If anyone's interested - $60 shipped with AMD retail heatsink setup (unused)
or $50 shipped/insured for just the chip.



Here is a print out of the CPU information from si-soft sandra.



SiSoftware Sandra
Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Speed : 2.00GHz
Model Number : 3800 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Low Power, Dual-Core
Bus : HyperTransport
Package : Socket AM2
Multiplier : 10/1x
Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 5/1x / 10/1x
Generation : G8
Revision/Stepping : 4B / 2 (8CD)
Stepping Mask : BH-F2
Microcode : MU0FB268
Core Voltage Rating : 1.250V
Min/Max Core Voltage : 1.100V / 1.300V
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 40-bit / 48-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB
Large Page Size : 2MB
Co-Processor (FPU)
Speed : 2.00GHz
Type : Built-in
Revision/Stepping : 4B / 2 (8CD)
Memory Controller
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Speed : 2.00GHz
Multiplier : 10/1x
Processor Cache(s)
Internal Data Cache : 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
Internal Instruction Cache : 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (2004MHz)
Upgradeability
Socket/Slot : Socket AM2
Upgrade Interface : Socket 940
Supported Speed(s) : 3.70GHz+
Environment Monitor 1
Model : AMD K8 CPU [P0, C2, SC0, SN0]
Version : 75.02
Mainboard Specific Support : No
Power Rating(s)
CPU Core Power : 46W (estimated)
Sensors
CPU Temperature : 40.0°C / 104.0°F td
Features
FPU - Co-Processor Built-in : Yes
VME - Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes
DE - Debugging Extension : Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes
CX8 - Compare & Exchange 8-bytes Instruction : Yes
APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes
SEP - Fast System Call : Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers : Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number : No
CLF - Cache Line Flush Support : Yes
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : No
ACPI - Software Clock Control : No
(W)MMX Technology : Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SS - Self Snoop : No
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No
TM - Thermal Monitor : No
PBE - Pending Break Enable : No
IA64 Technology : No
SSE3 Technology : Yes
MON - Monitor/MWait : No
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : No
VMX - Virtual Machine eXtensions : No
EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Technology : No
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
CID - Context ID : No
CX16 - Compare & Exchange 16-bytes Instruction : Yes
xTPR - Send Task Priority Messages : No
DCA - Direct Cache Access : No
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
POPCNT - Pop Count : No
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : Yes
Extended Features
SYCR - Extended Fast System Call : Yes
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes
FXSR - Instructions Optimisation : Yes
3DNow! Technology : Yes
Extended 3DNow! Technology : Yes
XD/NX - No-execute Page Protection : Yes
AMD64/EM64T Technology : Yes
RDTSCP - Serialised TSC : Yes
P1GB - 1GB Large Page Support : No
LAHF/SAHF - Support in 64-bit : Yes
CMP - Multi-Core Legacy Mode : Yes
SVM - Secure Virtual Machine : Yes
APICEX - Extended APIC Register Space : Yes
AltMovCr8 - Lock Move CRn : Yes
ABM - Advanced Bit Manipulation : No
SSE4A Technology : No
MASSE - Misaligned SSE Mode : No
3D Now! Prefetch Technology : No
OSVW - OS Visible Work-around : No
IBS - Instruction Based Sampling Support : No
SSE5 Technology : No
SKINIT - HVCE Support : No
WDT - Watchdog Timer Support : No
Power Management Features
TSCINV - TSC Invariant Across States : No
HWPS - Hardware P-State Control : No
½ - Half Multiplier Support : No
STC - Software Thermal Control : Yes
TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
TTP - Thermal Trip : Yes
VID - Voltage Control : Yes
FID - Frequency Control : Yes
TS - Thermal Sensor Built-in : Yes
Virtual Machine Features
Version : 1.01
NP - Nested Paging : No
LBRV - LBR Virtualisation : No
Advanced Settings
System Ack Limit : 1 request(s)
System Victim Limit : 0 request(s)
Extended MTRR Types : Yes
I/O Type Range Registers : Yes
Top of Memory : 80000000 (2048MB)
Symmetric Multiprocessing (SMP) Settings
Maximum Supported Configuration : 1-way
Bootstrap CPU : Yes
Global APIC Engaged : Yes
APIC Cluster ID : 0
Machine Check Architecture Settings
Number of Reporting Banks : 5 bank(s)
Exception Reporting Control Support : Yes
Variable Range MTRR Settings
MTRR 0 : 00000000-7FFFFFFF (0MB-2048MB) WB
MTRR 1 : 7FF00000-7FFFFFFF (2047MB-2048MB) UC
Variable Range IORR Settings
Fixed Range MTRR Settings
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PAT Settings
PAT 0 : WB
PAT 1 : WC
PAT 2 : UC-
PAT 3 : UC
PAT 4 : WB
PAT 5 : WC
PAT 6 : UC-
PAT 7 : UC
Performance Tips
Tip 210 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
 
Here is a link by some guys in the AMD section who are approaching 3.2ghz on air cooling with stock voltage with these 3800+ x2 chips

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1226888

cganesh75 has a hold on the chip for 24 hours. After that I go to the next person - Child of Wonder has expressed interest.

My ebay ID is archaeantrader. I don't have any heat feedback, never even heard of heat until a few weeks ago. I've been a long time member on this board, and though I've not traded on this board, my ebay feedback should speak to my honest intentions.

http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/MemberSearchResult?userid=archaeantrader
 
Child of Wonder you interested?

cganesh75 said he'd have to pass due to lack of funds.

After Child of Wonder, Alcuin is next in line.
 
OK, I guess I'm next in line. Let me know
 
giving child of wonder a bit more time to respond....

Alcuin is next in line

Then wolfofsin
 
does it really rival a 6000+x2? i mean i assume the 6000+ has 2x1mb cache and oc's higher.. but i dunno.. i just thought virgin chip was amusing.. so will it bleed when you oc it?
 
Just confirming this is a Socket AM2 CPU. I've never even heard of a socket AM2 3800+ X2 that runs at 45W. I'm currently running a 65W 3600+ X2 so this would be a nice power savings going to this 45W chip.

If the seller can provide some references then I'm in.
 
Child of Wonder said:
Just confirming this is a Socket AM2 CPU. I've never even heard of a socket AM2 3800+ X2 that runs at 45W. I'm currently running a 65W 3600+ X2 so this would be a nice power savings going to this 45W chip.

If the seller can provide some references then I'm in.
Click to expand...



Check post 3 for details on my references.

AMD makes 45 watt CPUs currently, you can do a google search for verification. I don't know any way to tell what wattage the CPU is except for the information provided through a program like SiSoft Sandra---since the CPU came in the slimline PC with no CPU box. I ran SiSoft which spit out the information I provided in the first post. It states it is a 45 watt CPU. It is definately a socket AM2. Coming from a 3600 x2 I'm not sure you'll realize enough benefits to make it worth your while.....20 watts isn't that much in powersavings. If I weren't going to overclock the snot out of this chip or if you are in my shoes and can't overclock this chip because of motherboard limitations I'd go for the fastest available 65 watt CPU. (currently a x2 5200+) and forget about 20 watts of power savings...but hey....if you want it...then by all means...the buyers are stacking up behind you though if you don't.
 
The CPU will be in a server that's on 24/7 so 20W of power savings actually ends up being $1.50 less in electricity each month or $18 every year. :)

Since I'll likely lose out on about $10 by selling my 3600+ and buying this CPU, it'll pay for itself pretty quickly.
 
Man, I want this processor.

I just bought a 65w x2 3800+ for my HTPC... right now the HTPC consumption is 73 watts at the wall (this was a complete green build).

I would love to see the wall consumption with this sucker.


Do you still have this processor avail?
 
Ockie said:
Man, I want this processor.

I just bought a 65w x2 3800+ for my HTPC... right now the HTPC consumption is 73 watts at the wall (this was a complete green build).

I would love to see the wall consumption with this sucker.


Do you still have this processor avail?
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giving child of wonder I think will end up buying it - if not....

Alcuin is next in line

Then wolfofsin

Then you, Ockie



Though if that many buyers fall through I'll be surprised.
 
Paypal received...Sorry guys - Child of Wonder got it.

$50 paypal = just the chip - no heatsink/fan as noted in post 1.

I'll send it out tomorrow via fedex ground in a nice cushioned box and anti-static bag,
 
for those still wanting a 45 watt cpu check out newegg and the Brisbane processors.
 
Thank you! I'll let you know as soon as it arrives.

Oh, and if you want to send it USPS Priority Mail, I'm cool with that, too.
 
Got the CPU today and popped it in. Working as expected as also seems to have lowered my server's idle wattage by about 21W. :)

Thanks Archaea!
 
Child of Wonder said:
Got the CPU today and popped it in. Working as expected as also seems to have lowered my server's idle wattage by about 21W. :)

Thanks Archaea!
Click to expand...

Child of wonder....I'm having some lockup problems using the 65 watt AMD X2 5200+ I replaced your x2 3800+ with. :eek: It's a problem not with the chip but with my limited means power supply ---- 160 watt PSU in an HP slimline case.



I'm bumping this thread in case anybody else comes to this thread looking to see what it's worth ---perhaps with intent to sell theirs.


I'd like to buy a x2 3800+ 45 watt processor from someone if anyone has one available.
 
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