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Old 09-30-2008, 02:09 PM
Steve Property Of HardOCP, 40.1 Years
 
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Real Files Suit Against Hollywood

Some companies throw parties when they launch a new product. Some companies issue a press release and others hold press junkets. Not these guys, when they launch a product, they file a preemptive lawsuit against Hollywood to go with it. Now that's balls with a capital B.

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A spokesman for Real confirmed that the suit was pre-emptive, but that the company expects that "the studios will be taking action later today." Indeed, Hollywood sources confirmed that the Motion Picture Association of America plans to file a lawsuit later Tuesday morning asking a federal court to stop RealNetworks from distributing the company's RealDVD software.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:18 PM
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Must be nice to have someone working on the inside. Isn't this like confessing to participating in industrial espionage?
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:22 PM
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That's pretty bad-ass. "Hey, let's release our product today" "Wait, we have to finish the lawsuit!"
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:26 PM
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I'm guessing the reason their software is legal is that it just copies the dvd to your HD still encoded. I doubt it's another commercial attempt at dvd decrypter.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:50 PM
ir0nw0lf [H]ard|Gawd, 7.0 Years
 
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1. According to Real, a 2nd layer of DRM is added, in addition to the CSS from the original DVD, so that should help them out legally.

2. "(Kaleidescape's 2007 courtroom victory over the DVD Copy Control Association is cited by Real as the precedent for the RealDVD software.)" Big precedent there that they (Real) will surely use. Doesn't seem like there is much of a difference between that and this.
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:08 PM
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Lawsuits are so out of hand it's pathetic, so this really doesn't surprise me. What else would you expect in a country where we graduate 10 lawyers for every engineer.
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:25 PM
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I'm guessing the reason their software is legal is that it just copies the dvd to your HD still encoded. I doubt it's another commercial attempt at dvd decrypter.
Yeah but how long before someone clever makes a piece of software that gets around that problem?
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:50 PM
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Yeah but how long before someone clever makes a piece of software that gets around that problem?
Why would that matter in regards to Real unless they are the ones who make the software?
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:03 PM
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Yeah, lawyers FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't this look like DVD Decrypter all over again?????
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:17 PM
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why would I buy that though? there is plenty of free software to use and I don't really care if MPAA likes it or not. there still is that fair usage idea that seems to get less and less attention. If I was going to pirate a disk that is just too easy. If I want to keep a copy of a movie that I own it saves a LOT of disk space to use a different method
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:06 PM
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I find myself deeply conflicted on who I should be rooting for in these lawsuits. On the one hand the MPAA are the scum of the Earth, on the other a crushing legal defeat could put Real out of business. The same can't be said about the MPAA.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:33 PM
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Some companies throw parties when they launch a new product. Some companies issue a press release and others hold press junkets. Not these guys, when they launch a product, they file a preemptive lawsuit against Hollywood to go with it. Now that's balls with a capital B.
I don't know who to support in this lawsuit... i wish the destruction of both the MPAA AND RealNetworks....

All we can hope for is a very drawn-out and very costly court case....
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:41 PM
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Lawsuits are so out of hand it's pathetic, so this really doesn't surprise me. What else would you expect in a country where we graduate 10 lawyers for every engineer.
As an EE, I watched engineering jobs migrate to India/China. When I decided that I could no longer enjoy stable employment as a EE, I went to law school. Now I'm an engineer and a lawyer.

Are there too many lawyers? Yes. Do I feel bad for a second about being a lawyer? Not a fucking minute. I don't make the rules, I just play to win.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:52 PM
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Lawsuits are so out of hand it's pathetic, so this really doesn't surprise me. What else would you expect in a country where we graduate 10 lawyers for every engineer.
When you live in a society that governs by the rule of law, rather than fiat, you need lawyers. Cry more.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:19 PM
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As an EE, I watched engineering jobs migrate to India/China. When I decided that I could no longer enjoy stable employment as a EE, I went to law school. Now I'm an engineer and a lawyer.

Are there too many lawyers? Yes. Do I feel bad for a second about being a lawyer? Not a fucking minute. I don't make the rules, I just play to win.
I hope you've at least chosen to become a patent lawyer and made use of your engineering skills. Makes people respect you a little bit more when they know that you were actually able to do something other than sue people.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:36 PM
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I hope you've at least chosen to become a patent lawyer and made use of your engineering skills. Makes people respect you a little bit more when they know that you were actually able to do something other than sue people.
Or you can just let him do whatever he does and not draw opinions about what he should or shouldn't do.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:42 PM
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I hope you've at least chosen to become a patent lawyer and made use of your engineering skills. Makes people respect you a little bit more when they know that you were actually able to do something other than sue people.
That's as fucking stupid as saying "well, if you're an electrical engineer, I hope you're doing something other than making electric tasers to strap to peoples balls in torture chambers"
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:36 AM
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Why would this even matter? How is DVD Fab Decrypter still around, but DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter got shut down?
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