8.10 hotfix Drivers cheat on FC2

Just found this over at this site . They found that with 8.10 hotfix drivers, textures were missing in FC2 . Perfromance increased with this so called "FC 2 optimized driver", but the performance increase comes from missing textures .


pretty interesting stuff, i'll be waiting for 8.11 now .

It looks more like the game is rendering those stones as being buried in the mud (for instance, the top of one stone is shown poking out of the mud). Besides, one instance in one screenshot hardly serves as proof. The author is an idiot or lazy for not conducting more tests before posting conclusions.

even without that hotfix ati card is as fast as gtx 280 in high res hotfix only adds 2 fps to avg

They found that with 8.10 hotfix drivers, textures were missing in FC2

Sure looks like it.

the performance increase comes from missing textures .

Not necessarily. The performance increase might still come from other optimizations and the missing rocks might just be a side-effect caused by some bug. Still, it's bad PR for AMD.

Originally Posted by JimmiG

Not necessarily. The performance increase might still come from other optimizations and the missing rocks might just be a side-effect caused by some bug. Still, it's bad PR for AMD.

ya but you never know what you might miss, imagine missing enemy textures and having to deal with invisible goons

Originally Posted by wolf2009

Just found this over at this site . They found that with 8.10 hotfix drivers, textures were missing in FC2 . Perfromance increased with this so called "FC 2 optimized driver", but the performance increase comes from missing textures .


pretty interesting stuff, i'll be waiting for 8.11 now .

We were fed this by NVIDIA last week. Bug on some rocks? Sure. Impact to gameplay? Nope. Impact to canned benchmarks? Who gives a flying fuck. If you are still betting on that shit you deserve what you get.

Here is what NVIDIA said:

SOME DISTURBING FINDINGS WITH CAT 8.1

Guys,

Don’t want to raise alarm, but Cat 8.10 seems to be doing odd things with FarCry 2.

I found certain rocks ‘fade’ with Cat 8.10. This does not occur with Cat 8.9. More disturbingly, it does not occur with Cat 8.10 with farcry2.exe renamed.

Here is the A-B comparison. You should be able to reproduce these results wherever there are small rocks in the scene. I can send a saved game if it helps.

My reply.....

Thanks for the insight. Took y’all a whole day to find only this?

Originally Posted by Kyle_Bennett

We were fed this by NVIDIA last week. Bug on some rocks? Sure. Impact to gameplay? Nope. Impact to canned benchmarks? Who gives a flying fuck. If you are still betting on that shit you deserve what you get.

Here is what NVIDIA said:



My reply.....

And to note as well, I personally have NOT been able to make happen with any rocks. Seems as though only in certain areas as verified by others. On my personal 4870X2 system with 8.10 and HotFix, I have never seen that "rock issue" and I am looking for it.

I've noticed this with corpses and dropped weapons. I'd drop a merc, and every once in a while I'd notice the shadow of his corpse but no visible corpse. Walk over to him, and if I look at it at just the right angle, I can begin to see a part of his body. It's wierd, looks submerged, but floating at the same time. Same thing with weapons, I can see all the flashing weapons on the ground, but when I walk around and look at them, they're flashing alright, but the weapon itself is invisible. I don't think it's a "cheat," looks like an innocent glitch.

Originally Posted by wolf2009

ya but you never know what you might miss, imagine missing enemy textures and having to deal with invisible goons

Yeah driver bugs can be annoying, but I'm pretty sure 8.11 will fix those issues without degrading performance. Until then you can either use the normal 8.10's which still provide good performance, or use the even faster Hotfix drivers and live with the display errors.

Originally Posted by Kyle_Bennett

We were fed this by NVIDIA last week. Bug on some rocks? Sure. Impact to gameplay? Nope. Impact to canned benchmarks? Who gives a flying fuck. If you are still betting on that shit you deserve what you get.

Here is what NVIDIA said:



My reply.....

I love that you don't mind bashing Nvidia. I don't want sound like I am jumping to AMD's defense but Nvidia shouldn't throw stones in a glass house. It's not like they have a squeaky clean record for stuff like this.

So am I supposed to believe that just because the latest ATI drivers don't work properly with Farcry 2 in regard to texturing that ATI must be cheating on their drivers to get better performance scores?

Are you serious?

So this guy's entire theory is based on these rocks alone?
Conspiracy theory fail.

Originally Posted by WhiteZero

So this guy's entire theory is based on these rocks alone?
Conspiracy theory fail.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG what are we to do now!?!?!?! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG what are we to do now!?!?!?! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

It's quite simple really: you must throw your 48xx cards out of the window pronto.

Originally Posted by WhiteZero

So this guy's entire theory is based on these rocks alone?
Conspiracy theory fail.

+ infinity, anything to bash ATI now that they are ahead in price vs performance.

Originally Posted by Simmonz

It's quite simple really: you must throw your 48xx cards out of the window pronto.

or just install the drivers, and know if you see something strange , that the drivers are at fault, not the game, and wait for it to be fixed

Originally Posted by Simmonz

It's quite simple really: you must throw your 48xx cards out of the window pronto.

I blew mine up yesterday on accident, will that do?

Yeah, I saw some missing textures on some dead guys, too.

How many games have you seen wierd shit and NPCs walking through walls, etc.

It's a video game, I just take it in stride as a game glitch and move on.

BFD.
(Chicken Little bullshit)

Oh yeah..........my son's 8800GT SLi set-up has the same occassional "floating dead guys"..........as for rocks........I really haven't spent the time to look at them that critically on either computer.

BTW, the game is fun, isn't that what it's all about.

I love how the fanboys from both sides, jump out of the woodwork for this

Here's a nice thread that the fanATIcs created a while back:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1237999&

And it was ATI that raised the issue. Say it "ain't" so...