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4850 in CF Catalyst/Vistax64, 8.12 issue thread

What is your situation with the Catalyst 8.12's

  • Windows Vista 64bit and 2 4850's in CF- Problems

    Votes: 11 35.5%

  • Windows Vista 64bit and 2 4850's in CF- No Problems

    Votes: 9 29.0%

  • Other hardware in Vista 64-bit- Problems

    Votes: 3 9.7%

  • Other hardware in Vista 64-bit- No problems

    Votes: 8 25.8%
  • Total voters
    31
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Ok, so after perusing multiple forums including AMD/ATi's, A trend I see is that most people with issues are running Windows Vista 64-bit and have 2X4850's in CF.

SO, this thread is dedicated to those people. Please, if you have this setup list the following information:
Motherboard/chipset
brand of cards
what issues you have.


If you have found a way to get the drivers to work, post that too.

EDIT: Please refrain from accusing hardware incompatibilities or user error. There's another thread that has degenerated into that discussion. There are enough people with this issue that such arguments are pointless.
 
This might help for some people who got BSOD during install:
123Lanoix said:
I figured out how to get rid of the Crossfire BSOD after installing the driver upon loading into vista

Go into safe mode disable the ATI external event viewer

then reboot go into catalyst and enable cross fire
reboot and then re-enable the event viewer
and everything should work fine !
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123Lanoix said:
When you go into safe mode go to start menu and right click on My computer
click on manage then go to down to services and disable the ati external event viewer


its causing you to bsod but its trying to engage crossfire or something at the wrong time or something. thats why you need to diable it then manually select crossfire and then restart and renable it then it will work fine and not cause the bsod !
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Modred189 said:
EDIT: Please refrain from accusing hardware incompatibilities or user error. There's another thread that has degenerated into that discussion. There are enough people with this issue that such arguments are pointless.
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Agreed! and the troublemakers know who they are. I will report back tomorrow night or saturday on my experience with this. 8.11 was a bust for me due to bsod during install, as was 8.9. Hopefully 8.12 will work because I'm at my end as far as dealing with ati's drivers. If these bsod on me then I am picking up a gtx280 this weekend at microcenter since they just lowered them by $60 and then stepping up to the refresh when it comes out. My days of fighting ati's drivers are over if 8.12 takes a dump on me.
 
Yup, got BSOD with a fresh 8.12 driver install. Will try the method in post #2 when I get home
 
the drivers are really good there is just an issue with ati event viewer that needs to be address. maybe ati is working on it now but the problem has been there for the last couple driver updates. I think 8.10 don't suffer from this issue. You just can' enable or disable crossifre on the fly with the 8.12 drivers in vista or it will BSOD. why would you want to disable crossfire anyways but if you wanted to you just to need to disable the event viewer first. These new drivers are alot faster than the previous ones.
 
Yup, 123Lanoix method does indeed work, I have crossfire up and running with two 4850's on an X48 board. Thanks for your help!

How do you figure things like this out?
 
The problem was there in 8.9, skipped 8.10 and it's been in 8.11 and 8.12. Some people were trolling the boards calling those of us with this problem incompetents who don't know what they are doing and that it must be a computer problem. I'm just glad that people are finally acknowledging that there IS a problem with these drivers. Ati HAS to know about this by now. If they don't then they are incompetent themselves. I'm half tempted to try the upgrade now but it's late and I want to play some cod waw before i hit the hay. Tomorrow I brave the ati driver upgrade saga one last time. If I am successful then I keep the cards and am happy! If I fail then I am off to microcenter to grab a gtx280 and then to craigslist to sell the 4850's.
 
yes, but try the method that Lanoix posted before you go selling those 4850's :)

Using the benchmark utility in Far Cry 2, during the "Action Scene" Benchmark, all settings Ultra High 1680 x 1050 2xAA, my Average FPS over 3 runs was 30.xx with the 8.10's and 41.xx with the 8.12's
 
Astrodave said:
The problem was there in 8.9, skipped 8.10 and it's been in 8.11 and 8.12. Some people were trolling the boards calling those of us with this problem incompetents who don't know what they are doing and that it must be a computer problem. I'm just glad that people are finally acknowledging that there IS a problem with these drivers. Ati HAS to know about this by now. If they don't then they are incompetent themselves. I'm half tempted to try the upgrade now but it's late and I want to play some cod waw before i hit the hay. Tomorrow I brave the ati driver upgrade saga one last time. If I am successful then I keep the cards and am happy! If I fail then I am off to microcenter to grab a gtx280 and then to craigslist to sell the 4850's.
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Obviously someone is competent enough to find a solution. ;)
 
I had them working after some bsod's the first time around, but now i'm stuck again. I popped the cards out to do some work on them and now I can't get 8.12 installed with crossfire working. Each individual cards runs great on its own, but just not together. Now I keep getting incompatibility errors with both cards in. I've wasted my whole night trying to get these phuckers installed.
 
Astrodave said:
The problem was there in 8.9, skipped 8.10 and it's been in 8.11 and 8.12. Some people were trolling the boards calling those of us with this problem incompetents who don't know what they are doing and that it must be a computer problem. I'm just glad that people are finally acknowledging that there IS a problem with these drivers. Ati HAS to know about this by now. If they don't then they are incompetent themselves. I'm half tempted to try the upgrade now but it's late and I want to play some cod waw before i hit the hay. Tomorrow I brave the ati driver upgrade saga one last time. If I am successful then I keep the cards and am happy! If I fail then I am off to microcenter to grab a gtx280 and then to craigslist to sell the 4850's.
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That makes two of us...
 
9850BE
msi 790fx
2x visiontek 4850's

8.8's no problems
8.11's when i would restart the computer i had to re-enable crossfire each time
8.12's had to install driver for the second card after first install, but am having no problems with them so far
 
Ok, so being fed up with this whole situation, I went out and got a GTX260, and I am ebaying the 4850's (PM me if you are interested in the link). I got a BFG GTX260 MAxcore.
I thought it would be worth mentioning that the BFG gives MUCH better performance than the two 4850's on my P965 board. This is most likely linked to the 16X, 4X configuration of it's PCI-e slots. So I'm happy. I paid $150 for my cards from BestBuy back when they came out, so I should at least break even on their sale. SO long Red!
 
No problems so far in my 4850CF config. Other than the fact that AVIVO doesn't show up anywhere including in Basic View, everything is good to go.
 
kppanic said:
No problems so far in my 4850CF config. Other than the fact that AVIVO doesn't show up anywhere including in Basic View, everything is good to go.
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You need to install Avivo package, you can find it on the driver website under additional download.
 
Vista x64
Visiontek 2 4850 (512) X-fire
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4 (X38 chipset)

2.5 hours and I got 8.12s to work, finally. I had bsod on 8.11 and reverted to 8.10 last month. Same bsod on restart for 8.12. I tried removing the second 4850 before attempting to restart after the bsod...big mistake. Computer wouldn't start in either normal or safe mode, just sat there trying to start. Ended up putting the second card back in (and forgot to attach the power cable for another hour of problems!). Anyway, it seems that if you can get into safe mode you can disable the second 4850 in device manager instead of physically removing it. I was able to get into normal Windows then for the driver to complete the install. Enabling the second 4850 in device manager caused the bsod and restart, but it came back normally with the x-fire checked. I'm pretty sure ATI External Event Utility was turned off when the second card was restarted. Anyway, it's all working now with x-fire on.
 
alg7_munif said:
You need to install Avivo package, you can find it on the driver website under additional download.
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Done that too. Got the separate package, downloaded, and ran it. Still not there!

There are some people not being able to get AVIVO to work... I am one of them =(
 
ATI has found a problem with these drivers and is now officially recommending not to use them with 4850 and Crossfire on Vista 32 and Vista 64. If it does not work with 4850 it probably has a problem with 4870 and 4870x2 as well. Search the ATI knowledge base for article 737-40761. The error occurs on all chipsets and they do not mention anything to do with more than 4GB of memory
 
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