Book: Sony Basically Designed the Xbox 360 Processor

A new book written by two IBM engineers claims that, during the development cycle, Sony’s research and development money was spent helping to build the processor for the Xbox 360. Ouch. Definitely interesting reading.

In "The Race for a New Game Machine," he and his co-worker Mickie Phipps tell the story of the whole effort to build the Cell. They also describe how the project went off the rails, ending up with IBM engineers creating the processing chips for two rival videogame consoles and, along the way, delivering to Sony Corp. one of its greatest business failures.

1st lawsuit of 09 papers are probably getting ready to be filed Monday

Originally Posted by Steve

A new book written by two IBM engineers claims that, during the development cycle, Sony’s research and development money was spent helping to build the processor for the Xbox 360. Ouch. Definitely interesting reading.

Bad headline. It claims sony funded ibm's development of the cell, and ibm used the dev money on part of the xbox processor design....

Sounds like a pretty shady deal to me,but I guess it's the same in any kind of big business.In the end it was Sony's own blunders and delays that really hurt them.The PS3's price alone is a killer in today's economy.

WOW!

Originally Posted by Technoob

Bad headline. It claims sony funded ibm's development of the cell, and ibm used the dev money on part of the xbox processor design....

Uh, no. The headline is correct.

All three of the original partners had agreed that IBM would eventually sell the Cell to other clients. But it does not seem to have occurred to Sony that IBM would sell key parts of the Cell before it was complete and to Sony's primary videogame-console competitor.

Parts of the design of Cell ended up in the 360. I'm fairly positive that IBM used the money Microsoft gave them to design the rest of the 360's CPU

The story repeats itself but with a twist. This time IBM says, Microsoft don't screw me. I'm your partner. Lets screw Sony!!
This is novel material.

PWND

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Originally Posted by kllrnohj

Uh, no. The headline is correct.



Parts of the design of Cell ended up in the 360. I'm fairly positive that IBM used the money Microsoft gave them to design the rest of the 360's CPU

Where do you get "sony designed the 360 processor" out of that? IBM designed it....

Originally Posted by Enduring_Warrior

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Maybe under the current administration. Hopefully Obama will turn that around.

Originally Posted by Enduring_Warrior

The story repeats itself but with a twist. This time IBM says, Microsoft don't screw me. I'm your partner. Lets screw Sony!!
This is novel material.

I was thinking the same thing. Its pretty hilarious based on how completely hard Microsoft screwed IBM over only thirteen years ago.

Originally Posted by maxius

1st lawsuit of 09 papers are probably getting ready to be filed Monday

And based on what ? IBM have legal papers, that he was allowed to do what he did. So, why would Sony sue his partner for something, which they allowed IBM to do ?

Really doesn't sound unusual to me. Sony and Toshiba partner with IBM to develop cell processor. It takes a long time, and in the process IBM gains knowledge about developing processors for consoles. Microsoft partners with IBM to develop console gaming processor. IBM uses existing knowledge to develop triple core processor for Microsoft. Oh the scandal.

Sony can cry wolf all they want... remember the original Playstation... that was designed by Sony for who???

Nintendo... that's right... Nintendo dropped out of the project as they wanted to stay 100% cartridge based and came up with the N64 but Sony continued and put it out anyway...

Wait, the CPU inside XBox 360 is a not-yet-finished Cell? No wonder the XBox 360 has a high failure rate, it is using an incomplete CPU.

Originally Posted by alg7_munif

Wait, the CPU inside XBox 360 is a not-yet-finished Cell? No wonder the XBox 360 has a high failure rate, it is using an incomplete CPU.

RROD is mainly a GPU issue.

Originally Posted by Enduring_Warrior

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Doesn't this graph look like the one General Loveless had up on the crappy 1999 movie Wild Wild West (with Will Smith)?

If you ask me, these idiots waiting for america to die need to look their way.

A worldwide economic crisis means worldwide, not just America.

And America hasn't lost 60% of their stock market like Russia has......

Originally Posted by JohnleMVP

Really doesn't sound unusual to me. Sony and Toshiba partner with IBM to develop cell processor. It takes a long time, and in the process IBM gains knowledge about developing processors for consoles. Microsoft partners with IBM to develop console gaming processor. IBM uses existing knowledge to develop triple core processor for Microsoft. Oh the scandal.

exactly