Just ordered the Dell UltraSharp 2209WA

After chatting with representatives over at Dell and confirming the 2209WA was in fact an e-IPS panel, I went ahead and ordered it. I don't have too much experience with LCD monitors, so I may not be able to write a good review on it. I do know that the viewing angles of the Samsung 226BW TN lcd monitor I had bugged me.

I also found out from the Dell reprsentatives that the monitor has an 83% color gamut.

Looks like a good panel.
Are you sure that the Rep was sure that this isn't a TN panel?

Originally Posted by Zepher

Looks like a good panel.
Are you sure that the Rep was sure that this isn't a TN panel?

He was positive and I believe him considering the 178 viewing angles. I was more worried that this was a VA panel.

Originally Posted by variant

I also found out from the Dell reprsentatives that the monitor has an 83% color gamut.

This is probably in relation to the Lab color space, not NTSC, which would make it a sRGB monitor. For some reason Dell thinks a higher percentage is more impressive, so that's the one they use for marketing.

@variant

Can't wait to hear what you think. I am seriously considering this for my build.


Best of luck!

I also found out it is 16.7 million colors. It has a 3000:1 dynamic contrast and a 1000:1 normal contrast. 300 cd/m2 brightness. 5 or 6ms response time, it seems to differ depending on which website it is. Either the American panels are superior to the European panels, or there is a crossed wire somewhere.

Originally Posted by nomu

This is probably in relation to the Lab color space, not NTSC, which would make it a sRGB monitor. For some reason Dell thinks a higher percentage is more impressive, so that's the one they use for marketing.

Isn't using CIE1976 standard when talking about monitors?

Looking at the response time and the color gamut makes me thing the person I mentioned in another thread was right, that the new e-IPS panel sacrifices color gamut for response times.

Originally Posted by variant

I also found out it is 16.7 million colors. It has a 3000:1 dynamic contrast and a 1000:1 normal contrast. 300 cd/m2 brightness. 5 or 6ms response time, it seems to differ depending on which website it is. Either the American panels are superior to the European panels, or there is a crossed wire somewhere.



Isn't using CIE1976 standard when talking about monitors?

Looking at the response time and the color gamut makes me thing the person I mentioned in another thread was right, that the new e-IPS panel sacrifices color gamut for response times.

Oops, I meant CIE1976, not Lab. And Dell is the only manufacturer I have seen to use anything but % NTSC in marketing literature.

Since the monitor only has a single DVI and VGA port, I am trying to decide which I want my Xbox 360 on and which my PC. Any suggestions? I have heard that the 360 through HDMI has a greater input lag than through the VGA cable.

Originally Posted by nomu

Oops, I meant CIE1976, not Lab. And Dell is the only manufacturer I have seen to use anything but % NTSC in marketing literature.

I am not overly familiar with color spaces, but just from what I have read, NTSC appears to be inferior to the CIE1976 standard. So isn't it the other monitor manufactures using NTSC as a way to bloat their listed gamut percentage? I recently read an article on why companies should quit using NTSC to measure due to its inability to appropriately measure color output in modern technology.

http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09045/colors446.png

Edit, clearer image:

http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09045/colors2867.png

Looks like a really nice monitor...waiting anxiously for your review OP.

Just ordered mine as well after returning TWO defective LG monitors right out of the box back to BB.

I haven't seen a difference in lag with Xbox between VGA and HDMI. If someone has seen that, it would be due to the monitor/TV. Either would work just fine because it has a native 1680x1050 mode built in. It automatically puts the black bars top and bottom to simulate a 16:9 image on a 16:10 monitor at 1680x1050.

If you want to use PC and 360 at the same time, I'd advise using VGA for the 360 and DVI for PC.

Originally Posted by variant

Since the monitor only has a single DVI and VGA port, I am trying to decide which I want my Xbox 360 on and which my PC. Any suggestions? I have heard that the 360 through HDMI has a greater input lag than through the VGA cable.



I am not overly familiar with color spaces, but just from what I have read, NTSC appears to be inferior to the CIE1976 standard. So isn't it the other monitor manufactures using NTSC as a way to bloat their listed gamut percentage? I recently read an article on why companies should quit using NTSC to measure due to its inability to appropriately measure color output in modern technology.

http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09045/colors446.png

Edit, clearer image:

http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09045/colors2867.png

Originally Posted by variant

Since the monitor only has a single DVI and VGA port, I am trying to decide which I want my Xbox 360 on and which my PC. Any suggestions? I have heard that the 360 through HDMI has a greater input lag than through the VGA cable.



I am not overly familiar with color spaces, but just from what I have read, NTSC appears to be inferior to the CIE1976 standard. So isn't it the other monitor manufactures using NTSC as a way to bloat their listed gamut percentage? I recently read an article on why companies should quit using NTSC to measure due to its inability to appropriately measure color output in modern technology.

http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09045/colors446.png

Edit, clearer image:

http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09045/colors2867.png

Get a 2 way DVI switch box.

I'm interested to see how the backlight bleed is on this monitor, when someone get theirs, please share

Originally Posted by variant

I am not overly familiar with color spaces, but just from what I have read, NTSC appears to be inferior to the CIE1976 standard. So isn't it the other monitor manufactures using NTSC as a way to bloat their listed gamut percentage? I recently read an article on why companies should quit using NTSC to measure due to its inability to appropriately measure color output in modern technology.

http://xs135.xs.to/xs135/09045/colors446.png

Edit, clearer image:

http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09045/colors2867.png

Hmm. I don't really know the specifications either, but the 2408WFP is listed as 102% NTSC and 110% CIE1976, and their sRGB monitors are listed as 83% CIE1976.

Just ordered one tonight as a replacement to my old 2007WFP. This is just after I got a used 2407WFP-HC on eBay, and learned about the ghosting issues. So hopefully it works out...

Originally Posted by j3ff86

Get a 2 way DVI switch box.

I have yet to see a good DVI switch box.I think I would rather run the 360 in VGA.

Originally Posted by j3ff86

I'm interested to see how the backlight bleed is on this monitor, when someone get theirs, please share

Me too.

I will definitely give my impression.

Originally Posted by nomu

Hmm. I don't really know the specifications either, but the 2408WFP is listed as 102% NTSC and 110% CIE1976, and their sRGB monitors are listed as 83% CIE1976.

The spec sheet of the 2408WFP says it has the 110% CIE1976 gamut with TrueColor Technology. It also does not have 102% NTSC according to its spec sheet, it has 102% CIE1931 rating.

I've got 4 different cheap manual switch boxes (hdmi and dvi). They all work flawlessly.

Anytime you add a connector between the monitor and device, quality is degraded. It is even worse for switch boxes.

Originally Posted by variant

Anytime you add a connector between the monitor and device, quality is degraded. It is even worse for switch boxes.

Whatever, something like this would probably be fine with dvi -> hdmi adapters:
http://www.amazon.com/HM-501-5-PORT-.../dp/B000FHQMFK

Originally Posted by j3ff86

Whatever, something like this would probably be fine with dvi -> hdmi adapters:
http://www.amazon.com/HM-501-5-PORT-.../dp/B000FHQMFK

That probably works good, but I don't want to invest $50 to simply not use VGA.

Just called them today, and they sold it to me for $209 shipped! With that kind of deal I could not pass it up.