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Old 06-30-2009, 05:37 PM
Steve Property Of HardOCP, 40.1 Years
 
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Invisibility Cloaks May Shield Buildings From Earthquakes

Let me get this straight, someone has come up with a way to shield buildings from earthquakes? I’m not calling BS on this one just yet but I live in earthquake country, I’d have to see this to believe it.

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Sound like fiction? It’s not! Stefan Enoch and his team at the Fresnel Institute in Marseilles, France have been studying other applications for the physics behind invisibility cloaks. The result of their research is an “earthquake cloak” that could render objects “invisible” to shocks, storm waves or tsunamis. And they aren’t even Level 8 mages!
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:48 PM
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It is total fiction. The only way to shield a building from earthquakes is to isolate it from the source of vibration, in this case, the ground. And the only way to do that is to either put the building on a large vibration dampener or to remove the building from the source complete via levitation. Thank you.
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:55 PM
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I was in the bathroom when that 5.9 we had last week hit. Kyle laughed at me.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:05 PM
3991vhtes [H]ard|Gawd, 2.5 Years
 
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Someone must've been playing Crysis...
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:18 PM
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It easy to pop out radical ideas, it's hard to make them work.


reminds me of the 4000mph train Links
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:23 PM
cyclone3d [H]ard|Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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The conceptual cloak will be made up of several large, concentric plastic rings affixed to the Earth’s surface. In order for the destructive surface waves to pass smoothly into the plastic, the stiffness and elasticity of the rings must be very closely controlled. The waves that travel through the cloak are compressed into minuscule fluctuations in pressure and density and are able to travel along the fastest path available. The path can be molded into an arc that directs surface waves away from objects inside the cloak by tweaking the characteristics of the plastic. As soon as the waves exit the cloak, they return to their original, larger size.


RIGGGHHHHTTTT!

So it is supposedly a vibration dampener that eliminates the vibration effect but then recreates the same exact vibration on the opposite area where the vibration entered.

Hrmmmm..... Either the writer needs to do some actual research or they don't understand at all what this device supposedly does or they need to stop repeating stories they hear and have no data to back it up.

When this thing is put into production and actually works... and the description of how it works is straightforward and believable then I will believe their claims.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:32 PM
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lol @ "lvl 8 mages"
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:45 PM
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I reckon even level 8 mages dont have that ability. Should be atleast 20 before attempting something of this sort.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:54 PM
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i dont really understand what theyre talking about. a youtube video or even a simple demitri martin diagram would have helped.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:21 PM
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I was in the bathroom when that 5.9 we had last week hit. Kyle laughed at me.
Did it shake the crap out of you?
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:03 PM
Hypernova [H]ard|Gawd, 3.1 Years
 
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The conceptual cloak will be made up of several large, concentric plastic rings affixed to the Earth’s surface. In order for the destructive surface waves to pass smoothly into the plastic, the stiffness and elasticity of the rings must be very closely controlled. The waves that travel through the cloak are compressed into minuscule fluctuations in pressure and density and are able to travel along the fastest path available. The path can be molded into an arc that directs surface waves away from objects inside the cloak by tweaking the characteristics of the plastic. As soon as the waves exit the cloak, they return to their original, larger size.


RIGGGHHHHTTTT!

So it is supposedly a vibration dampener that eliminates the vibration effect but then recreates the same exact vibration on the opposite area where the vibration entered.

Hrmmmm..... Either the writer needs to do some actual research or they don't understand at all what this device supposedly does or they need to stop repeating stories they hear and have no data to back it up.

When this thing is put into production and actually works... and the description of how it works is straightforward and believable then I will believe their claims.
The multiple concentric ring thing sounds similar to meta materials (at the nano level) used to make cloaks in the radio spectrum. It is possible that they did some math and found that the principle behind it work on large waves too.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:06 PM
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Wake me when it can make you invisible to bullets.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:15 PM
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Wake me when it can make you invisible to bullets.
Just wear a suit 18 hard drives thick and you'll be fine!
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:53 PM
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Just wear a suit 18 hard drives thick and you'll be fine!
I think he meant inVISible and not inVINCible....
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:12 PM
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It easy to pop out radical ideas, it's hard to make them work.


reminds me of the 4000mph train Links
the real deal there was not about IF it will go that speed, but how to make it more areodynamic enough to go threw air like a knife threw butter and on how the heck would anything hold up to going 4000mph and stoping all that massive weight.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:15 PM
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The conceptual cloak will be made up of several large, concentric plastic rings affixed to the Earth’s surface. In order for the destructive surface waves to pass smoothly into the plastic, the stiffness and elasticity of the rings must be very closely controlled. The waves that travel through the cloak are compressed into minuscule fluctuations in pressure and density and are able to travel along the fastest path available. The path can be molded into an arc that directs surface waves away from objects inside the cloak by tweaking the characteristics of the plastic. As soon as the waves exit the cloak, they return to their original, larger size.


RIGGGHHHHTTTT!

So it is supposedly a vibration dampener that eliminates the vibration effect but then recreates the same exact vibration on the opposite area where the vibration entered.

Hrmmmm..... Either the writer needs to do some actual research or they don't understand at all what this device supposedly does or they need to stop repeating stories they hear and have no data to back it up.

When this thing is put into production and actually works... and the description of how it works is straightforward and believable then I will believe their claims.
If they were smart, which obviously they aren't what they would have done is taken the initial input of vibrational energy and redirected it to the other side, but capture that vibrational energy and convert it to either heat or electricity. What is the point of moving a vibrational path from one point to another without harnessing that energy and instead letting some other sap take the brunt of the offcast vibrations. Stupid.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:16 PM
Methadras 2[H]4U, 9.2 Years
 
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I reckon even level 8 mages dont have that ability. Should be atleast 20 before attempting something of this sort.
Someone over there didn't roll a d10 for a perception check.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:35 PM
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Uh huh. And someone's going to invent a magic NIC that lowers your pings, too. Riiiiiight.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:37 PM
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I was in the bathroom when that 5.9 we had last week hit. Kyle laughed at me.
how did he know? was Kyle in the bathroom with you??!?!?!?!?!
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:09 PM
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It is total fiction. The only way to shield a building from earthquakes is to isolate it from the source of vibration, in this case, the ground. And the only way to do that is to either put the building on a large vibration dampener or to remove the building from the source complete via levitation. Thank you.
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