The Movie Industry Needs To Stop Whining

I like this guy. Read the article, I am sure you will too.

All studios ever do is complain. You never hear them sound like they are actually happy with digital technology, because in reality, they aren't. We keep hearing about how poor they are doing and how the Internet is ruining their business, yet this summer they grossed $4.7 billion in ticket sales, the highest grossing summer ever at the box office. How did that happen if the Internet is suppose to be eating into their business?

BUT IF THERE WAS NO INTERNET THEY WOULD HAVE MADE 10 BILLION IN TICKET SALES

duh

The way I see it... evolve or die as an industry.

Most paper companies failed along with news "paper"/magazine type companies. The ones surviving are going digital the best they can.

Why can a pirate, make a hq tv show and release it before HULU and NBC.com ?

Thats the question. How can they beat the pirates at their own game.

Why go to hulu to get it a day later, when you could get it today without advertising?

The 10-30 second ads are great, but when they show the same ad 4 times in the tv show, well thats not going to be watched, i mute the ad and browse the internet... then rewind and watch my show. Nobody wants to see the same fruit of the loom commercial 10x in a row.

evolve or die

err also... economically its supply and demand:

at high prices there is low demand (think blue ray)

free=high demand

they need to lower their prices to meet market demand... not blame the market and go bankrupt

Originally Posted by jroe52

The way I see it... evolve or die as an industry.

Most paper companies failed along with news "paper"/magazine type companies. The ones surviving are going digital the best they can.

Why can a pirate, make a hq tv show and release it before HULU and NBC.com ?

Thats the question. How can they beat the pirates at their own game.

Why go to hulu to get it a day later, when you could get it today without advertising?

The 10-30 second ads are great, but when they show the same ad 4 times in the tv show, well thats not going to be watched, i mute the ad and browse the internet... then rewind and watch my show. Nobody wants to see the same fruit of the loom commercial 10x in a row.

evolve or die

You got that too huh? lol. I tried watching heroes on the network site but it was horrible and I saw the same long commercial over and over. Makes that option my absolute last resort. Rather wait until netflix posts it.

(...) they don't know what consumers want and their model consists of producing five movies, with the hope that one will be a blockbuster.

Spot on.

I'm tired of not being able to go to the movies to see _Decent_ movies more often, the last ones that were definitely worth watching IMO were Batman: TDK and later, Watchmen... for instance, what they're doing with the SAW franchise (which btw the gf wants to see it so probably this weekend I'm going to watch it) is not even funny anymore... 6 damn movies? And 2 more in the works!? Jesus effin' christ!!

Originally Posted by Pretiacruento

Spot on.

I'm tired of not being able to go to the movies to see _Decent_ movies more often, the last ones that were definitely worth watching IMO were Batman: TDK and later, Watchmen... for instance, what they're doing with the SAW franchise (which btw the gf wants to see it so probably this weekend I'm going to watch it) is not even funny anymore... 6 damn movies? And 2 more in the works!? Jesus effin' christ!!

I still wonder what kind of people like Saw (I only know one who does, she introduced me to it). Saw 1 was okay, but I had to stop watching 3 after basically the intro scene as it was making me feel physically ill.


On-topic, whining is what gets the movie industrie the DMCA and other such niceties. I mean, why would politicians check statistics and studies if they can just listen to their very good buddies and prime source of income, the entertainment industry and fulfil their every whim?

Off topic: Kill the damn SAW franchise for god's sake! Didn't they see what happened to "Friday 13th" and "Halloween" What next, Saw 12: In Space?

I want to bring your attention to this article by the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8337887.stm entitled: File-sharers are big spenders too

People who download music illegally also spend an average of £77 a year buying it legitimately, a survey has found.

Originally Posted by jroe52

evolve or die as an industry.

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Originally Posted by Flakes

I want to bring your attention to this article by the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8337887.stm entitled: File-sharers are big spenders too

To be honest, thanks to SLSK I discovered a lot of bands I haven't even heard of (I'm talking über-underground bands) and for some reason that makes me more eager to purchase their merchandise and albums, specially if it's a band I really like...

And the fact that sometimes it's harder to find their stuff, makes you want to buy their stuff even more! =P

Even though Torrenting is easy, most people hate doing it. Not because they feel guilty or anything, but because it's difficult. Not only to find what you want to watch, but to get the video playing even. When the video plays, not many people enjoy watching videos on their PC for ~2 hours. Not to forget screener quality.

In the end, it's easy to walk into a theater to get that quality experience. Given that you can afford.

it's because they are GREEDY.. people and industries that are GREED zombies are NEVER happy with how much cash is in their bank accounts, they need MOAR GREEN MOAR GREEN MOAR... you get the picture..

Originally Posted by Elledan

I still wonder what kind of people like Saw (I only know one who does, she introduced me to it). Saw 1 was okay, but I had to stop watching 3 after basically the intro scene as it was making me feel physically ill.


On-topic, whining is what gets the movie industrie the DMCA and other such niceties. I mean, why would politicians check statistics and studies if they can just listen to their very good buddies and prime source of income, the entertainment industry and fulfil their every whim?

Actually your first comment isn't really off topic. Movie quality recently has gone to shit. We keep getting re-tooled crap like Rob Zombie's Halloween, the remakes of Friday the 13th and the upcoming Nightmare on Elm Street. It's rare to see quality movies like The Dark Knight now. Nothing this summer was even close although it wasn't a bad summer for movies.

The movie industry insists on spending $50 million just to make $60 million on the movie meaning $10 million profit. Movies like the "Saw" series or "Harold and Kumar" crap are perfect examples. Now I understand that you need the cheap comedies and the chick flicks but we're flooded with those nowadays. Why do we need 7 variations of Super Bad every year? Why invest in sorry ass sequels like the Van Wilder 2 movie? Take that money and invest a little more into things like the upcoming Avatar movie or future Star Trek sequels that Abrams will no doubt do after this years very successful reboot.

The Movie and Television industry is no different then the music and gaming industries. They don't seem to understand that their consumer base isn't nearly as retarded as they believe and are tired of paying out the nose for crap.

Produce quality, we will buy it. Continue producing crap, we will download it, find out it is crap then delete it and then be thankful that it only cost us at most a couple of hours of download time.

Stop Whining!

Originally Posted by DukenukemX

Even though Torrenting is easy, most people hate doing it. Not because they feel guilty or anything, but because it's difficult. Not only to find what you want to watch, but to get the video playing even. When the video plays, not many people enjoy watching videos on their PC for ~2 hours. Not to forget screener quality.

In the end, it's easy to walk into a theater to get that quality experience. Given that you can afford.

I hate to say it, but this is completely false.

I'd much rather watch at home.

At home, I have a VERY comfortable leather couch to sit on. I have a 50" 1080P TV which has very good picture quality. My 7.1 surround sound system is well setup and sounds awesome. And the media center PC displays everything brilliantly via HDMI.

At home, I don't have to deal with annoying kids. I don't have to find a babysitter. I don't have to pay $5 for a popcorn and $3 for a coke. I can pause the movie to goto the bathroom and not miss anything.

Frankly, going to the movies in most theaters is a far worse experience than watching it at home for me. Some of the new LUX Level showings at Showcase are very nice, but at $19 a ticket, a night out with the wife can break $60. I'd much rather put that money towards a nice dinner out then watch a movie in our home theater.

The MPAA is so ignorant it hurts. I would GLADLY pay $15 for a 24 hour rental of a new release movie in 1080p. This way I avoid all the hastle of going to the movies and can enjoy it in my home. I actually had this discussion with my wife recently.

We haven't been to the movies in about a year. So they got $0 from us. If they offered home rentals the same day as theater releaase, we'd probably rent 2-3 movies a month. Thats $360 a year they are missing out because they are too stubborn to realize not everyone wishes to enjoy movies the way they want.

Cost is not the issues, I have money. I spent thousands on my home theater, I just simply do not enjoy the theater and would rather watch movies at home. They are narrowminded and therefore losing bigtime.

There is a reason I've been a Netflix customer for a long time now....

yet this summer they grossed $4.7 billion in ticket sales, the highest grossing summer ever at the box office.

and I thought the country was in a recession!

Originally Posted by DukenukemX

Even though Torrenting is easy, most people hate doing it. Not because they feel guilty or anything, but because it's difficult. Not only to find what you want to watch, but to get the video playing even. When the video plays, not many people enjoy watching videos on their PC for ~2 hours. Not to forget screener quality.

In the end, it's easy to walk into a theater to get that quality experience. Given that you can afford.

Torrents are as easy as PI.
Your 1st sentence contradicts your 2nd sentence.

Originally Posted by j-sta

and I thought the country was in a recession!

Its been shown that in a recession people drink and go to the movies. It seems that instead of going on the big vacation or even the weekend excursion, they replace it with a cheaper alternative of the theaters. It kind of slides down the demographic of those who would go regularly don't because it was built into their budget and now is no longer affordable and then those with the higher budget filled out step down to theater level expenses. Or so I have read...