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Old 11-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Steve Property Of HardOCP, 40.1 Years
 
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UK's Terrifying Anti-Piracy Plans Leak

If the “leaked” information in this article is accurate, anyone caught sharing files in the UK could soon be facing jail time. Uh-oh, I don’t think too many people in the UK are going to be happy about this. Well, aside from that freaky pro-RIAA dude that sends me hate mail every time I post one of these stories.

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The Secretary of State would get the power to create new remedies for online infringements. (for example, he could authorize jail terms for file-sharing, or create a “three-strikes” plan that costs entire families their Internet access if any member stands accused of infringement)
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Climber [H]ard|Gawd, 2.5 Years
 
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Whatever good they hope to accomplish is overshadowed by this beauty:

[quote]The leaked information mainly shows that the Secretary of State will have the power to introduce all kinds of draconian measures without Parliamentary oversight.[/quote]

any policy or government agency that is without oversight or accountable to no one leads to big time trouble.

and again

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...Over the past months the UK government has tried to tackle the issue of online piracy. This has resulted in a proposal from Lord Mandelson, who plans to disconnect alleged file sharers without any judicial process.
Bypassing the judicial powers because you have major corporate backing, no oversight from parliament or the citizens and you have the recipe for abuse and fraud. I hope this gets shot down as it would lead to a precedence that may get established here in the States or elsewhere.
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:39 PM
__hollywood|meow Gawd, 4.0 Years
 
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hey UK, ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? the concept of proper liability? how about checks and balances?

i sure hope governments stop taking all these fucking bribes (excuse me, lobbyist funding) from the racketeering media conglomerate. how long is it going to take for us to all realize that impinging upon citizens basic rights under paranoid scapegoat garbage pretext isnt going to fix the problem of piracy?
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:40 PM
djBon2112 [H]ardness Supreme, 3.5 Years
 
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hey UK, ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? the concept of proper liability? how about checks and balances?

i sure hope governments stop taking all these fucking bribes (excuse me, lobbyist funding) from the racketeering media conglomerate. how long is it going to take for us to all realize that impinging upon citizens basic rights under paranoid scapegoat garbage pretext isnt going to fix the problem of piracy?
Until we replace every greedy bottom-feeding politician, by election or otherwise.
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:42 PM
BloodyIron Limp Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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Well, now I get to harass the UK citizens as well as USA citizens about how "satisfied" they really are with their representatives.

Vive le revolution!
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:48 PM
ChairmanMiau Limp Gawd, 8 Months
 
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Bribes, lies, violations of human rights, protection of monopolies, and more bribes. It will continue unless we do things about it. Some links for the brits:

http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/

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Old 11-19-2009, 07:58 PM
cliche Gawd, 3.1 Years
 
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Ah New Labour - Old Labour (pre 1987) spinning in their graves

They'll get voted out next election but the promise of more control over one's citizens is always enticing
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Enduring_Warrior [H]ard|Gawd, 5.4 Years
 
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hey UK, ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? the concept of proper liability? how about checks and balances?

i sure hope governments stop taking all these fucking bribes (excuse me, lobbyist funding) from the racketeering media conglomerate. how long is it going to take for us to all realize that impinging upon citizens basic rights under paranoid scapegoat garbage pretext isnt going to fix the problem of piracy?
Only goes to prove that no matter the government system Mr. Jefferson was right. The best government is the small government. Wish there was a guy with half the wit of the guys in those days.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:36 PM
Hallucinator [H]Lite, 3.3 Years
 
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This isn't going to work.

1. Jail cells gonna overfilled with inmates pretty fast.

2. ISPs lose broadband costumers which meant they lose $$$ as well.

This will piss Brits off and they in return will vote those who invented this dumb ideas OUT pretty fast.

Simple logic.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:56 PM
Outamyhead Gawd, 2.1 Years
 
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I miss ol' blighty, just not the half wits in control of it, it was fine when I left...although Blair was almost on his way out to let the new emperor...I mean leader, take over...I mean run the country.

Meh, we'll see how it goes I guess, the proposal has to go through the commons first under a vote, it probably won't make it through, but then the house of inbred pillocks...I mean house of lords could then vote on it, if they really want to try and push this one through.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:00 PM
Enduring_Warrior [H]ard|Gawd, 5.4 Years
 
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This isn't going to work.

1. Jail cells gonna overfilled with inmates pretty fast.

2. ISPs lose broadband costumers which meant they lose $$$ as well.

This will piss Brits off and they in return will vote those who invented this dumb ideas OUT pretty fast.

Simple logic.
Heheh, you really think logic is what got us to this situation on the first place?
OMG, thanks for the wishful not thinking!!
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:04 PM
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I love it how you only have to be accused of file sharing. So the UK version of the MPAA or RIAA comes along, acuses you and bang, you lose the internets.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:10 PM
vonviener n00bie, 1.6 Years
 
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It's almost as if the US politicians and the UK politicians are in a race to see who can destroy their country the fastest. Special interest groups and lobbyists for the win.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:48 PM
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UK went downhill right after they banned my personal hero, michael savage.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:48 PM
DukenukemX Banned, 5.0 Years
 
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Hey UK, if you revolt against your politicians, then the US will as well. Maybe we can leave them on a remote Island and call it Politician Survivor.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:42 AM
Hulahoops Limp Gawd, 2.0 Years
 
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This story tends to make it sound worse than what it actually is, far to many practical issues means it'll won't effect many people.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:42 AM
Rebel44 [H]ard|Gawd, 3.3 Years
 
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I love it how you only have to be accused of file sharing. So the UK version of the MPAA or RIAA comes along, acuses you and bang, you lose the internets.
We should accuse all their (organizations like RIAA, MPAA, their lobbists etc.) employees, contractors, families etc. from piracy

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:50 AM
Dethred [H]ard|Gawd, 3.5 Years
 
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UK went downhill right after they banned my personal hero, michael savage.
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Funny, I thought that was the only thing they ever did right.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:52 AM
meanmodda[H] Limp Gawd, 7.8 Years
 
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Tony Blair's government has created more than 3,000 new criminal offences during its nine-year tenure, one for almost every day it has been in power.
Whats wrong with a few more.
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:07 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBM7B3NwBtw

best solution imo...
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