Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta1

Tenchi4U said:
Looks like they finally are using what the gained when they "acwquired" GIANT Software inc.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

wonder how long before Microsoft Antivirus. :D
Looks like a good link, but it's not working...

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edit: heh, won't resolve the page in Firefox, but works in IE. Go figure... Reading now. Thx.
 
Phoenix86 said:
Looks like a good link, but it's not working...

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edit: heh, won't resolve the page in Firefox, but works in IE. Go figure... Reading now. Thx.
worked in firefox for me...maybe they changed it since you tried.
 
it seems nice ,,it has active protection that on my work P4 1.7 system my cpu usage which always jumps between 0 and 2% with task manager open never jumped about 4%.. I tried PestPatrol a month ago from Ca and every 5 secs my cpu usage would jump to 35%.. WAY to much overhead with that one
 
linkage for exe:

h**p://download.microsoft.com/download/8/1/5/815d2d60-49b5-44dc-ae35-fca2f2c6f0cc/MicrosoftAntiSpywareInstall.exe
 
I am pretty impressed with it and the Advanced Tools are pretty cool as well. I am definitely going to take the time to put it through its paces. Everyone be prepared for the antitrust cases to start flying. :p
 
My Review:

Memory Useage: 12 MB
Did it catch anything?: Yes, it caught traces of minibug that neither adaware or Spybot detected. It also deleted some other registry values.

If I close it in the task manager, it starts itself back up. It's actually pretty good. Looking foward to the anti-virus software coming out Tuesday I think it said.

If they could actually intergrate IE and this software, that would be great. That way, it will only be running when IE is on but I guess they want this to be compatible with any other browser. It would be nice to have an option though.
 
It also cleams up the COM Interop from the registry of the files it removes. That rocks. I don't think Ad-Aware or Spybot do that.
 
If you have Giant AntiSpyware installed it makes you remove it before installing. Not a big deal - thought I'd mention it.
 
ComputerBox34 said:
My Review:

Memory Useage: 12 MB
Did it catch anything?: Yes, it caught traces of minibug that neither adaware or Spybot detected. It also deleted some other registry values.

If I close it in the task manager, it starts itself back up. It's actually pretty good. Looking foward to the anti-virus software coming out Tuesday I think it said.

If they could actually intergrate IE and this software, that would be great. That way, it will only be running when IE is on but I guess they want this to be compatible with any other browser. It would be nice to have an option though.

Ditto for the mail bug catch.
I'm impressed with it.
 
Well to be fair MS should know where spyware attaches itself to your system ;)

tin hat going back on now
 
eeyrjmr said:
Well to be fair MS should know where spyware attaches itself to your system ;)

tin hat going back on now

good point, who knows MS exploits better than MS?
 
"Preview" of it:

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/ms_antispyware_preview.asp

Snippet below:

"But in a rare moment of luck, I'd actually been a fan, customer, and advocate of Giant AntiSpyware, as their anti-spyware solution is logically named, for several months. In fact, I've found it to be far more effective than the industry darlings, Ad-aware and Spybot Search & Destroy. And I've been recommending it to friends and family ever since.

But wait, the luck doesn't end there. While my experience using Giant Antispyware gives me a unique perspective of this product, I was also lucky enough to interview Giant co-founder Andrew Newman just days before his company was purchased by Microsoft. Newman discussed with me Giant's plans for future versions of the product, including a centrally-managed enterprise version (Figure) that, I suspect, played a large part in Microsoft's interest. Newman explained to me why Giant's approach to tackling spyware is superior to that of the competition, and provided some valuable insight into how spyware can be confronted and defeated."

My guess is that this will be a great product since Giant seemed to do a great job and the product though in "MS beta" is technically mature.
 
Well I installed it, ran it and it got like 20 new things.

Then I restart IE after its finished and what do I get but another pop up.
 
draksia said:
Well I installed it, ran it and it got like 20 new things.

Then I restart IE after its finished and what do I get but another pop up.

stop setting porno pages as your home lol...



is it supposed to block popups ?



i've been an avid opera user for about 4 years now(mouse gestures pwn) so i've never really had "spyware" on my computer... ever... so i guess it sucks or something
 
Verge said:
stop setting porno pages as your home lol...



is it supposed to block popups ?



i've been an avid opera user for about 4 years now(mouse gestures pwn) so i've never really had "spyware" on my computer... ever... so i guess it sucks or something

I don't know if you are acting stupid, or just trying to slam other browsers.
99% of spyware comes from installed programs. Kazaa, Divx, AIM.

Browsers have little to do with it. Its mostly the user not having a clue what they are clicking yes too.



Theres a difference between browser cookies and real spyware/adware.
 
draksia said:
Well I installed it, ran it and it got like 20 new things.

Then I restart IE after its finished and what do I get but another pop up.

This is still a beta, not a final. You can't really judge until they released the final version.
 
ComputerBox34 said:
This is still a beta, not a final. You can't really judge until they released the final version.


But its Microsoft, people judge their programs and OSs on just screenshots years before it goes retail. :p
 
MS is brilliant.. Make a holy OS then sell a product that fixes it.. Its brilliant I say.. I think I can smell DOJ poking around MS again.

MS is going to push every one out so you only have to go to one place TO buy all your software needs..
 
Wrench00 said:
MS is brilliant.. Make a holy OS then sell a product that fixes it.. Its brilliant I say.. I think I can smell DOJ poking around MS again.

MS is going to push every one out so you only have to go to one place TO buy all your software needs..


I bet the Adware/antivirus stuff they are making will replace the secuirty center they have with SP2. Then combine it with the next OS and charge a few bucks more per copy.

Just like they did with IE.
 
MeanieMan said:
I don't know if you are acting stupid, or just trying to slam other browsers.
99% of spyware comes from installed programs. Kazaa, Divx, AIM.

Browsers have little to do with it. Its mostly the user not having a clue what they are clicking yes too.
You obviously dont have any idea of what ActiveX and BHOs are...

Although i agree the easier way to get spyware is thru infected software, its not the only way.... And certainly its not 99%...
 
Yes, ActiveX is a major point of entry for the worst malware out there. Sadly, IE is the number one target for most spyware.

I'll be checking out this software. Looks like it could be cool.
 
MeanieMan said:
I bet the Adware/antivirus stuff they are making will replace the secuirty center they have with SP2. Then combine it with the next OS and charge a few bucks more per copy.

Just like they did with IE.
Easy with the tin hattery.

I almost doubt they want to duplicate the legal issues that also came with forcing IE on consumers.

But don't let history get in the way of conspiracy theories. Pardon me while I get back in my black helicopter....
 
I had major issues with this software.

For one, it killed Windows XP built in firewall. After reboot the firewall was disabled and I could not restart it due to Windows Wirewall/ICS service being disabled. I tried to manually re-enable it through Computer Management with no success, an error 10017 came up.

It also recognized a program I used (I will not name this program, suffice to say it is a file sharing program, but not KaZaa) as a risk. It noted that there was no spyware integrated with the program but I could download something that could be spyware through the program. Be sure to uncheck it with any similar programs you have because if it is checked it WILL uninstall the program without giving you a chance to back out.

I think I'll be sticking with Lavasoft.
 
cleathco said:
I had major issues with this software.

For one, it killed Windows XP built in firewall. After reboot the firewall was disabled and I could not restart it due to Windows Wirewall/ICS service being disabled. I tried to manually re-enable it through Computer Management with no success, an error 10017 came up.

It also recognized a program I used (I will not name this program, suffice to say it is a file sharing program, but not KaZaa) as a risk. It noted that there was no spyware integrated with the program but I could download something that could be spyware through the program. Be sure to uncheck it with any similar programs you have because if it is checked it WILL uninstall the program without giving you a chance to back out.

I think I'll be sticking with Lavasoft.

People use the XP firewall? :eek:
People still use P2P software? :eek:

I don't know what you mean by it uninstalls the program without allowing you to back out. Anything it found on my machine that was a useable program came up with ignore as default with it telling me about companies making useful programs that are supported by ad research and that the program may not be harmful but I should read the EULA.

Of course you not saying which program it was, what the beta actually found wrong with it and what options you already messed with....doesn't really help anyone believe you.
 
sounds like it is for the common user. does things ala wizardry without giving ganma a chance to disconfuckulate things up.

my biggest gripe about MS is the wizard and automatic diabling so you dont break it yourself. it is good for grandma. but i want a system wide option that says "ive used win95, so i know how to fix a broken OS and i still want all the configuration options accessable."
 
it thought VNC and an FTPserver were threats. but it did find one real spyware that spybot and adaware missed. it works much faster then spybot as well.
 
DeFex said:
it thought VNC and an FTPserver were threats. but it did find one real spyware that spybot and adaware missed. it works much faster then spybot as well.

Actually I would say it educates the user that it could be a threat and then gives them the ability to disable. I don't think it mistook it for spyware (I also was notified about VNC). Very interesting actually because if my brother in law had had this on his machine then I wouldn't have been able to catch him chatting with his mistress and find out for my sister because he would have been warned that I had installed VNC and a keylogger (per her request, it was her computer). :D So it could be useful protection against people that might have done what I did for malicious purposes.
 
cleathco said:
For one, it killed Windows XP built in firewall. After reboot the firewall was disabled and I could not restart it due to Windows Wirewall/ICS service being disabled. I tried to manually re-enable it through Computer Management with no success, an error 10017 came up.

I got the same thing on my other computer. This machine ran the software without a hitch, but the other one ended up with a disabled firewall.

Apparently Microsoft's antispyware solution likes to kill Microsoft programs.
 
The scan ran quite fast and found two new spyware items. My Spybot "TeaTimer" had been acting up latley and crashing. I will give this one a try for awhile.
 
I have run it on once computer that has been kicking its ass pretty well. It has repeatedly failed to remove TIBS, ISTbar, Media Tickets, and a few other products. It has done well on some other computers, but I'm not particularly impressed with it.

Also, don't bitch about the fact that Microsoft is releasing this to fix their own software. If you're not stupid, this stuff does not pile up on your computer. It takes more than an OS to get a raging malware infection....
 
draksia said:
Then I restart IE

the crux of the problem :p

I have a dilemma, today Im vetting a box for a client
she has gone ahead and installed InterMute's SpySubract on the advise of HP
(registered copy, InterMute is the new home of CWShredder BTW)
seems like a nice ap, but Im not going to have the chance to troubleshoot any issues or conflicts if I install the Beta as its out the door in the morning

anybody played with these two on the same box?
 
INeedAName said:
Apparently Microsoft's antispyware solution likes to kill Microsoft programs.

At least they're being honest about what programs are causing the problems. :)
 
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