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Old 05-31-2005, 11:12 AM
Mojo [H]ard|Gawd, 7.0 Years
 
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I can't wait for OLED monitors

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23515

No more bad contrast, no more poor viewing angles, should be cheaper to buy, no dead pixels, no backlight leakage/issues, etc.

I can't wait! My BenQ will be out the door.
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:57 AM
IceWind Banned, 5.9 Years
 
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Bah, SED will be even better and out sooner.
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:04 PM
Mojo [H]ard|Gawd, 7.0 Years
 
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Will SED have no dead pixels?
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Old 05-31-2005, 03:30 PM
Elledan [H]ardForum Junkie, 8.3 Years
 
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Will SED have no dead pixels?
Do CRTs have dead pixels?
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:31 PM
logo29a Gawd, 6.0 Years
 
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Bah, SED will be even better and out sooner.
It would be nice!

Anyone have any guesses on SED's? I thought for sure that the OLED's would be out sooner. DOH!
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:51 PM
mikeblas [H]ard|DCer of the Month - May 2006, 5.6 Years
 
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Originally Posted by Elledan
Do CRTs have dead pixels?
Sometimes, if the mask or grille is flawed.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:02 PM
Darth Bagel Limp Gawd, 5.0 Years
 
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Do CRTs have dead pixels?
your logic is so flawed it makes my spleen ache.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:20 PM
Komataguri Banned, 6.0 Years
 
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The girls in those pictures are god damn hot!




But, back to the topic... It looks like a great image.


But I don't think I'll ever give up my CRT TVs or monitors.


Their big, and their bulky, and they have a fat ass, but for what I pay for them, I like the size [ Makes my money more justified then a slim little piece of paper on the wall ]


And they just produce such a great picture for the price.... I can't imagine anything surpasing CRT in my eyes as far as quality goes, atleast for a long long time.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:00 PM
IceWind Banned, 5.9 Years
 
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Heres a techno diagram on how SED works. By far, once its out in force, its gonna blow Plasma, LED, OLED and CRT completely away. This IS the future of displays, period.

SED Technology Background
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:12 PM
Komataguri Banned, 6.0 Years
 
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Originally Posted by IceWind
Heres a techno diagram on how SED works. By far, once its out in force, its gonna blow Plasma, LED, OLED and CRT completely away. This IS the future of displays, period.

SED Technology Background
Looks like a flat CRT, Could be interesting.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:45 PM
Spleeze Limp Gawd, 6.3 Years
 
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I think I'm a little more interested in OLED's...

CRT's are great and all, but if I could have an LCD with perfect viewing angles and absolutely no blurring ghosting i'd go with that over a smaller CRT...

I don't have a technical explanation, but all I know is I can stare at my LCD for a few hours and my eyes dont get tired like they do with CRT's
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:50 PM
Komataguri Banned, 6.0 Years
 
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I think I'm a little more interested in OLED's...

CRT's are great and all, but if I could have an LCD with perfect viewing angles and absolutely no blurring ghosting i'd go with that over a smaller CRT...

I don't have a technical explanation, but all I know is I can stare at my LCD for a few hours and my eyes dont get tired like they do with CRT's

Your not running the CRTs at 60Hz refresh rate are you?
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:40 PM
mike_j_johnson Gawd, 5.2 Years
 
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SED will be back to analog/flicker effect/eye strain/radiation/heat all over again...no thanks

At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.

I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:51 PM
Komataguri Banned, 6.0 Years
 
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Originally Posted by mike_j_johnson
SED will be back to analog/flicker effect/eye strain/radiation/heat all over again...no thanks

At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.

I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.

You don't have to worry about Radiation, unless you press your nose against the screen 23 hours a day


And it's better then plasma which can't replicate true black unless you pay 40,000dollars.


or LCDs who depend on backlights, and have the risk of pixels dying.
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Old 06-01-2005, 06:02 AM
Araanor Limp Gawd, 4.7 Years
 
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A CRT with ungrounded power supply might emit some radiation, for all I know, but otherwise, no. The tiredness people speak of is likely connected to the bluriness and lower refresh rate of older CRT. I don't see why SED should suffer from these problems.
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Old 06-01-2005, 06:53 AM
Elledan [H]ardForum Junkie, 8.3 Years
 
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Originally Posted by mike_j_johnson
SED will be back to analog
SED displays are driven digitally, as the electron emitters are arranged in a matrix, like the transistors of an LCD.
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/flicker effect
Individual pixels are driven directly, so there's no noticable flickering.
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/eye strain
From the blurring and flicker-free, ultra-sharp image?
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/radiation
Unlike CRTs, SEDs do not produce X-rays or any other EM radiation, aside from light (photons), just like an LCD, plasma, etc.
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/heat all over again...no thanks
An SED display uses 2/3th the energy of an LCD display, and 1/3th of a plasma one of comparable size.

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At least this is what it seems to me...basically a slim CRT.
Well, in essence it uses the same principle, only it's a million times more efficient, solving virtually all of the problems of CRTs.
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I personally love my DVI LCD and any similiar technology. At this point I would never go back to CRT tech.
Just wait until you've seen an SED display sitting next to an LCD and plasma one. It'll blow you away.
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:23 AM
mohammedtaha 2[H]4U, 5.3 Years
 
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But what about NED's ?

http://www.techsmec.com/index.php/20...e_flat_panel_d

Just check out the price tag on this one
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:27 AM
Badd Limp Gawd, 4.8 Years
 
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BeHardware have done a review of a prototype Lumiled display here:

http://www.behardware.com/articles/570/page1.html



It's a 21" TFT model number LCD2180WG LED. It's going to have a hefty price tag for sure, but it is interesting to see the improvements we can look forward to with this change in technology. Eventually LED backlighting will be widespread and in the affordable market

The panel in this NEC is an IPS panel, and while the blacks are good, there is room for improvement, especially when compared with modern VA variants. They compare the colours with a CRT, a VA panel and a TN panel and while the colours are very rich with the LED backlighting, they are not as accurately produced as some of the other displays. This is more a flaw of the IPS panel though.

anyway, worth a read for those intersted
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:31 PM
jienn n00bie, 5.2 Years
 
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Elledan, have you seen the SED in action? I'm curious. Do you know when it will be available for computer monitors at a reasonable price? I only know that toshiba is planning to launch a SED TV this year (news from late 2004). It should be out soon if what they said holds, but the price would be high they said.

Initial impression from a AV-mag can be found here: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/011705PPCES/

Look promising, but full production will be in 2007 so do i wan't to have my old CRT monitor until then? I'ts gonna be a looooong wait, at least 3 year to be realistic. I suspect a nice LCD is the only choice for a while.
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:16 PM
IceWind Banned, 5.9 Years
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jienn
Elledan, have you seen the SED in action? I'm curious. Do you know when it will be available for computer monitors at a reasonable price? I only know that toshiba is planning to launch a SED TV this year (news from late 2004). It should be out soon if what they said holds, but the price would be high they said.

Initial impression from a AV-mag can be found here: http://www.ultimateavmag.com/news/011705PPCES/

Look promising, but full production will be in 2007 so do i wan't to have my old CRT monitor until then? I'ts gonna be a looooong wait, at least 3 year to be realistic. I suspect a nice LCD is the only choice for a while.
Hence why I personally decided to go LCD now, I simpyl couldn't stand my CRT any longer and I have absolutely no regrets with my L90D+
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