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Old 09-13-2005, 09:16 PM
mathesar [H]ard|Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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24" Widescreen CRT (FW900) From Ebay arrived,Comments.

Finaly got my FW900 from Ebay ,The box was packed extremely well with a very thick barrier of bubble wrap all around it. The front of the monitor casing has a little scratch (Update: I was able to cover up this scratch using a silver colored sharpie) but the glass/screen itself is in perfect condition.

Picture quality on this thing is AWESOME I was very pleased to find the Geometry and Convergence in near perfect condition after looking at various test patterns.Also the overall Focus is excellent corner to corner. It seems as if this monitor wasnt used very much or it just aged very well, I cant see any notable flaws in the picture quality, I havent really messed with it gaming & movie wise but I was just playing FarCry @ 1900x1200 and it looked amazing, I think I got an excellent deal @ $400 shipped,especially considering this monitor retailed for $2,300 new.

Few pics I took, digital camera doesnt really do it justice tho:












*** UPDATE ***

A big Thanks to Hurin for putting together the following information from this lengthy thread:

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Monitor Information
Sony Product Page (product datasheet, user's manual, driver).
Service Manual.


Aspect Ratio and Resolutions
The monitor is 16:10 aspect ratio. The following resolutions are 16:10:

1280x800
1600x1000
1680x1050
1760x1100
1840x1150
1920x1200
2048x1280
2304x1440 (Max resolution listed in the FW900 product datasheet)

If you can't select these resolutions, make sure the monitor driver is installed (included with Windows XP or you can download it at the link above). If certain resolutions are still not available, you can add custom resolutions easily via NVIDIA's "Custom Resolution and Refresh Rates"control panel. ATi users may need to use a 3rd party application such as "Powerstrip" if their preferred 16:10 resolution is unavailable.


Initial Setup Panic? "Image Restore" to the Rescue!
When you first unpack and power up your monitor, do not worry if black levels and color are way off. Let it warm up for about 30 minutes. After thirty minutes in the powered-on state (don't let the monitor enter "sleep" mode), the "Image Restore" option becomes available under the "Expert" and "sRGB" color settings menu. Set your preferred color temperature in the Expert area and then activate the "Image Restore" option. Your colors should then "pop" into place. Edit: its also good to turn up the monitors Brightness setting before running Image restore, For example I normally run mine at around 25 but before running Image restore Ill turn it up to 50, Then back down after running it. Doing this normally gives the brightness setting a wider range, especially if you're currently having to run the monitor at a low brightness setting to achieve good black levels.


Green Tinge?
If you notice a "green tinge" to greys and blacks, do the "Image Restore" procedure above. But first, raise the Brightness setting for your monitor appreciably above where you'd normally like it. Then, do the "Image Restore" operation.


Discolored Corners?
If you have a yellowish (or other color) "tinge" in one or more corners of your display (but the rest of the display is fine), adjust the "landing" setting for the affected corner in the monitor's setup menu.


Circles Are Oblong!
Sony specs state that the 'standard image area' calls for 1/2" of black space on top/bottom and 1/4" total on the sides. This gives a 1.59x :1 aspect ratio. Close enough for government work. So, adjusting your image area completely to the corners isn't recommended if you want a completely pure 16:10 aspect ratio (totally round circles). But really, it's hard to notice either way.


BNC Cable?
So far, nobody in this thread has noticed any improvement from using them. But, if you want to be sure you're getting the best possible video signal to your monitor, you can try getting this high-quality BNC cable. A high-quality cable has heavily shielded individual signal wires as early as possible in the cable run rather than a standard VGA cable that only breaks out into the five individual wires over the last few inches of the cable.

One side-effect of the BNC cable connection is that you will need to manually set up the monitor driver. The monitor driver is built into Windows XP, You can choose it manually or if you have trouble you can download it from here. When using BNC connections, don't be alarmed if the screen "jumps" or "rolls" for a moment every time you right-click certain video files. This is a side-effect of using BNC cables, apparently. Multiple peope have noticed it.

Monitor focus seem a little soft / blurry?
Over time the optimal focus can tend to drift on CRTs but you can re-adjust it using the 2 focus pots located inside the monitor , Thanks to MightyJoe for the detailed info on gaining access to these adjustments here. Sorry the picture links are currently dead if anyone has them backed up please let me know, Although It might not even be necessary to open your monitor , refer to the Alternate method for adjusting focus below.
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UPDATE / Alternate method for adjusting Focus: Apparently you can adjust the focus pots from the outside of the monitor! I recently adjusted my monitor using this method ,Thanks to beast for this info: "The pots are visible from the outside by shining a flashlight into the left rear top of the case, and with a small screwdriver, they were easily accessible thru the ventilation slots. The metal cage inside the plastic case has round holes, and the pots are directly under two holes, which happen to be directly under two ventilation slots. It looks intentional from the outside, but i could just be lucky." uberwurst confirmed that he was also able to adjust it from the outside so it's definitely worth a try before going through all the trouble opening the monitor. When adjusting the Focus I noticed its best to have the Contrast turned up to around 85 and display a white backround with black or blue text (such as cnn.com which has both) if its even slightly out of focus the text will appear blurry ,try to get it as clear as possible with contrast turned up and you'll be in good shape.

How Does It Display 4:3 Content?
It's up to you! For non-widescreen content, the monitor can show it in all its glory in the proper aspect ratio by simply squeezing the raster area so that it's only drawing in the 4:3 areas of the screen. In other words, there will be black "undrawn" bars on either side of the image. If you don't mind a distorted image, the monitor can also "stretch" the image to fill the entire screen. But then, things look "fat."

The proper 4:3 aspect ratio can easily be attained by pressing the "ACS" button on the front of the monitor when any 4:3 resolution is displayed.

Opening the monitor
If for whatever reason you need to open the monitor for service etc. here's some info on how to do it, Just remember to BE CAREFUL as there are high voltage areas in the monitor even after its been unplugged for days: Link

Removing Anti-Glare coating from monitor
If you have scratches in the antiglare coating (the dreaded rainbow effect) there is the option of removing the coating entirely, of course it involves tearing down the monitor but people have reported good results: Link

Dynamic Convergence Adjustments
With the help of WinDAS you can make Dynamic Convergence adjustments across the entire screen, This allows for picture perfect Convergence compared to using the monitors limited user adjustments, Thanks to Hurin for making this guide! Link

UPDATE: Thanks to roberta for spending the time putting together this refrence list of topics from this ever growing thread: Refrence List

Last Updated: 2/3/10

Last edited by mathesar; 02-04-2010 at 01:00 AM.. Reason: Added link to a Refrence list.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:21 PM
cambrian Limp Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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great monitor, great price. The only drawback is the hefty weight.

I can't imagine dragging that thing to a lan game.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Go4hunter [H]Lite, 4.7 Years
 
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Oh my back hurts just thanking about it but it is a nice looking Monitor.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:30 PM
Pkirk618 [H]ardness Supreme, 7.4 Years
 
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hey, does that person you puchased it from have more. Im looking for a reputable seller and feedback from this forum is better that the BS sometimes Ebayer put out there.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:31 PM
texuspete00 [H]ardness Supreme, 7.4 Years
 
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Got the HP version on the way. Same guy, I saw you mentioned same MA town, noticed it was the same as my ebay. I think you're thread got me to buy this thing. I was kind of in the dark they had 24" Widescreen CRTs. I was ok with LCD drawbacks, but I had to try door number two. So cheap!

Picture probably does the monitor no justice. The 2405FPW probably has the best image of any monitor I seen, thing is that image up there doesn't degrade when you start hauling ass on a vehicle or so on. Heh... oh well, I go to the gym, bring on the 100lb dinosaur.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:52 PM
ellover009 [H]ard|Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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Nice mathesar, we both rolling with monitors from the same guys. exept I went for the sony one. It has the metal gray case instead of the beige.
And yes this monitor kicks ass.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:57 PM
mathesar [H]ard|Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ellover009
Nice mathesar, we both rolling with monitors from the same guys. exept I went for the sony one. It has the metal gray case instead of the beige.
And yes this monitor kicks ass.
Actualy mine is the Sony as well ,my digicam settings wernt ideal so the colors are off in the farcry shot:


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Old 09-13-2005, 10:03 PM
mathesar [H]ard|Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pkirk618
hey, does that person you puchased it from have more. Im looking for a reputable seller and feedback from this forum is better that the BS sometimes Ebayer put out there.
He sure does,

Original Sony version here

HP OEM version here
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:07 PM
HighwayAssassins [H]ardness Supreme, 5.9 Years
 
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wow i want a 24 inch widescreen SO bad...especially the 2405, but for $400 i would buy this shit in a heartbeat...if i had the $$



Congrats on the kick ass monitor dude, im sure you have many happy gaming hours ahead
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:13 PM
Pkirk618 [H]ardness Supreme, 7.4 Years
 
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well, already looking at this guys stuff. Its reassuring its the same person though. thanks man.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:21 PM
cambrian Limp Gawd, 5.5 Years
 
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weight = 92.6 lbs

that's more than your average geeky prepubescent teenager
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:04 PM
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I hope my desk can handle this thing. I can though, I eat my vitamins.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:07 PM
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What's the depth measurement of this thing?
Might want to pick up one to compliment my 2405 :]
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:31 PM
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i bet its at least 24in wide
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:34 PM
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heh, gj mathesar... i bought mine new about 5 years ago... still works perfect. I've babied this thing everywhere I've moved... not a scratch on it. It rox for games... Just seeing it available on ebay makes me wanna buy another one... can you imagine 2? Anyway, I'm gonna hold out for sed technology and blow some bucks that way... I need more real estate, and I don't want to go to the dual monitor set up... not any good for games.

You're gonna love that monitor... if you play cs at all, be sure to play at a resolution that allows you to use 100hz refresh rate. Oh, and be sure to get the program reforce.exe, it allows you to lock the refresh rate at 100( or whatever you want) when you get into opengl or direct3d mode. Otherwise, xp has a nasty habit of lowering the refresh rate to 60hz... it makes it look fugly. PM if you have any questions about video tweaking...

again congrats on the monitor... you're gonna enjoy it... I still enjoy mine and haven't regretted plunking down 1800 clams on it. For $300 its a friggin steal. I'm tempted just to buy it just to have two lol...
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:41 PM
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Man, I would have a problem keeping up in fast-paced FPS games if I was sitting close to that monitor. I would LOVE to play some flight sims on that thing though.

Are there any real differences between the Sony and the HP? His "Buy it Now" Price is $75 cheaper on the HP...
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighwayAssassins
wow i want a 24 inch widescreen SO bad...especially the 2405, but for $400 i would buy this shit in a heartbeat...if i had the $$



Congrats on the kick ass monitor dude, im sure you have many happy gaming hours ahead
Keep in mind that this screen and the 2405 are not in the same size category and shouldn't be compared to each other when it comes to size considerations. The viewable area on the 2405 is much bigger (24 inches).

The 2405 will probably beat the pants off the W900 in some areas (text sharpness in 1920x1200) while the W900 will probably win in black levels and various kinds of color benchmarks (and obviously viewing angle), as well as gaming.

I would personally go for the 2405, but I can completely understand why some people go for the W900 instead, especially if they're gamers.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:17 AM
mathesar [H]ard|Gawd, 4.6 Years
 
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Thumbs up

Quote:
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I would personally go for the 2405, but I can completely understand why some people go for the W900 instead, especially if they're gamers.
Exactly why I went for the FW900 ..and you'd be suprised how clean the text is in 1900x1200 (Not LCD clean of course) but even better I can run it at a lower resolution without worrying about image quality loss,I have the desktop set at 1600x1024 now and text is very clean.

So far im blown away by this monitor, I was watching some 1080i clips in Awe with the monitor set at the proper 1920x1080 res (no black bars visible), the color is noticably better on this than my previous 21" G520P wich I already thought had excellent color, and the black level is black as it gets (same as my previous monitor).

No complaints here

p.s. viewable area on fw900 is 22.5"
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:20 AM
Asian Dub Foundation [H]ardness Supreme, 4.5 Years
 
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taht my friend is a sweet ass looking monitor...

man if i was out of college right now (lol and i just got in!) i would so get that, since i won't have to move it that much.... MAN that would be sweet for some movies (better blacks than a LCD)
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:31 AM
Tov Limp Gawd, 6.6 Years
 
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How are you setting 1600x1024 on this puppy?
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