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-(Xyphox)-

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Ok,
I am going to be building a new rig in the next month. I have a budget of 3000...
What to get guys,

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lamboman said:
3000 what? Bunny rabbits?
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3000 dollars, what do you think,
And i am thinking quad core, but i dont know if i am going to need it.
I do some gaming, dont have a lot of time for it though, and normal PC use.
 
Am I the only one getting tired of the build me a computer threads? How about doing some research, put together a parts list and then ask for input.
 
No you're not. The only part I'm tired of is what I'm gonna write below:

Answer these questions first before we can help you:

1) What are you planning to do with this PC?
2) Does this $3000 budget include tax and shipping?
3) What parts do you need for that $3000 budget? Case, OS, monitor, hard drives, etc?
4) Will you be overclocking?
5) In addition to question 1, do you think this justifies $3000 on a PC?

I think your current system is a damn fine system right now. Just upgrade the video card to an 8800GTX or Ultra and you'll have a better gaming experience.
 
-(Xyphox)- said:
3000 dollars, what do you think,
And i am thinking quad core, but i dont know if i am going to need it.
I do some gaming, dont have a lot of time for it though, and normal PC use.
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3000 could mean british pounds, australian dollars, canadian dollars...this isn't a U.S.-only forum.

If you aren't gaming much and if you don't multitask while encoding/converting video or something similarly stressful than a dual core is plenty.

If you're buying now then it's hard to beat an e6850. Get a p35/p5k motherboard or 680i, 2GB of decent ram (DDR2 is cheap) and an 8800GTS or something less if you don't game every week.
 
You could go a lot cheaper if you aren't doing any gaming, 3D, or other demanding tasks: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=346300&pfp=hpf3

I picked one of these up, put a Cooler Master 850 Pro PSU (its on sale for $120 US at CompUSA as well) and an 8800 Ultra and the thing smokes. Getting about 11700 in 3DMark an its killing every modern game at 1920x1200.

Of couse most on this forum balk at reatil PC, and I do build most of my PC's, I'd say about 10 of the 15 desktops I've have over the last 15 years or so, but I just wanted something simple and solid for another 6 months as Penryn and Barcelona are just around the corner.

At any rate, $3000 US is too much money for a general purpose PC (no gaming, video, other intensive tasks) unlesss you're gettting something like a 30" monitor.

Good luck!
 
heatlesssun said:
You could go a lot cheaper if you aren't doing any gaming, 3D, or other demanding tasks: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=346300&pfp=hpf3

I picked one of these up, put a Cooler Master 850 Pro PSU (its on sale for $120 US at CompUSA as well) and an 8800 Ultra and the thing smokes. Getting about 11700 in 3DMark an its killing every modern game at 1920x1200.

Of couse most on this forum balk at reatil PC, and I do build most of my PC's, I'd say about 10 of the 15 desktops I've have over the last 15 years or so, but I just wanted something simple and solid for another 6 months as Penryn and Barcelona are just around the corner.

At any rate, $3000 US is too much money for a general purpose PC (no gaming, video, other intensive tasks) unlesss you're gettting something like a 30" monitor.

Good luck!
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Well I do game, just not as much as i use to, I want to start gaming more once i have more time to do so. I have a idea list and some questions for everyone, so here it goes:

Case-LIAN LI PC-60BPLUSII W Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case- 139.99

PSU- ENERMAX INFINITI EIN720AWT ATX12V/ EPS12V 720W Power Supply 100 - 240 V RoHS- 219.00

CPU- Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor- 204.99

Mobo- EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard- 219.99

Ram- CORSAIR XMS2 DOMINATOR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory- 124.00

Video- XFX PVT80FSHE9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card &#8211; 569.00

HDD- 2x-Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive -159.98

Optical Drives-Asus DVD-Rom 19.99, Asus DVD-Burner- 35.99

CPU Cooler-ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink-53.99

Input- Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard-44.99, Logitech MX518 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse- 39.99, Xtrac Mouse Pad- 14.49

Monitor- AMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1)- 319.99

Total- Before Tax, Shipping, Rebates= $2,213.36

I am not 100% sure on the CPU cooler or dual opticals.
Should i look into Vista for DX10, or stick with XP
Not 100% on Memory, might go 4GB
How's the PSU? Will it handle everything
Should i upgrade the Case fans, and should i get a fan controller?
Also, should i keep that CPU or step it up to a 6850
 
CPU: Quad Core Q6600 G0 Stepping 2.4ghz

Mobo: Abit IP-35 PRO or Ga-p35-ds3r (both are excellent overclockers)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce 8800gts 320mbs Superclocked (unless you are geting a 24" monitor you wont benefit from a 640mb. either that (320mb) or a gtx)

Ram: G.Skill 4gb (2gb x 2) DDR2-800 PQ Series (5-5-5-15) (ddr2 will go up so buy now)

Case: Coolermaster Stacker 832 XD (most awesome case ever period)

Psu: Enermax Infiniti 720W (you can opt for corsair 620W but for future upgrades keep this in mind)

Hard Disk: Segate barracuda 7200.10 320gb

DVD Drive: any Sata dvd writer (sata so you dont have to use the fugly ide cables)

Cooler: Zalman 9700

oh and Vista 64 bit to use all those 4gb of ram :)
 
(unless you are geting a 24" monitor you wont benefit from a 640mb. either that (320mb) or a gtx)
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He's got a 30" widescreen in his sig, I'm guessing he might be keeping that. ;)

but I just wanted something simple and solid for another 6 months as Penryn and Barcelona are just around the corner.
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Yeah that's my concern right now. You have to stop waiting at some point, but I'm thinking I might hold out for one more processor/vidcard cycle..
 
Actually, for the HardForums, I would be thinking either British Pounds or USD, there are other currencies on this planet you know. And somebody else has already said this.

Anyways, back to the PC specs, I would get the spec you listed yourself, but change the following:
Q6600 G0 CPU, I'd rather have 4 cores at 3.6 than 2 cores at 3.9, and the four core setup will last quite a bit longer.
Dual 8800GTX or Dual 8800Ultras, the latter overclocks better, but is worse value.
Stacker 830
Abit IP35-E (cheapest P35 motherboard on the market, but it is still an amazing overclocker. You can't go wrong on a 500mhz FSB board for $80 or something like that).
4Gb GSkill PC6400 (Dominator RAM is really just a waste)
Corsair HX520 or HX620 if the price difference isn't much. (The HX520 has enough power for your PC, believe me, and chances are, when you upgrade your system, you might just get a new power supply anyway).
Tuniq Tower 120 Cpu cooler (the Zalman coolers are quieter, but the cooling performance leaves a lot to be desired).
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB hard drives (they aren't that much more expensive, and the extra space is really nice to have).
 
Kaspre said:
He's got a 30" widescreen in his sig, I'm guessing he might be keeping that. ;)
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The old lady has my 30" now, she wont give it back :(:(
I already have a 500GB drive, so i am getting the 320's for a RAID setup
I changed a few things, i am not 100% sure yet...
Case- COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case -259.99
PSU- ENERMAX INFINITI EIN720AWT ATX12V/ EPS12V 720W Power Supply 100 - 240 V RoHS- 219.00
CPU- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor- 289.99
Mobo- EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard- 219.99
Ram- mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996564- 339.00
Video- XFX PVT80FSHE9 GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported HDCP Video Card &#8211; 569.00
HDD- 2x-Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive -159.98
Optical Drives-Asus DVD-Rom 19.99, Asus DVD-Burner- 35.99
CPU Cooler- Tuniq Tower 120 P4 & K8 CPU Cooler &#8211; 64.99
Input- Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard-44.99, Logitech MX518 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse- 39.99, Xtrac Mouse Pad- 14.49
Monitor- AMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1)- 319.99

Which fan's should i get for the Stacker, and which Fan Controller?
Not 100% on the memory
Will that PSU be beefy enough
I think one 8800 will be enough for me, If i ever need SLi i can buy another later
 
-(Xyphox)- said:
Case-LIAN LI PC-60BPLUSII W Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case- 139.99
PSU- ENERMAX INFINITI EIN720AWT ATX12V/ EPS12V 720W Power Supply 100 - 240 V RoHS- 219.00
Ram- CORSAIR XMS2 DOMINATOR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory- 124.00
CPU Cooler-ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink-53.99

I am not 100% sure on the CPU cooler or dual opticals.
Should i look into Vista for DX10, or stick with XP
Not 100% on Memory, might go 4GB
How's the PSU? Will it handle everything
Should i upgrade the Case fans, and should i get a fan controller?
Also, should i keep that CPU or step it up to a 6850
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I'd suggest a case with 120mm fans. The 80mm fans will get loud in that case. The PC-7 uses all 120mm fans.

That PSU is way overpriced. I'd drop it down to the Silverstone Olympia 750W instead -- much cheaper and still good quality. Here are some PSU suggestions:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103

Ditch the dominators cuz they're overpriced. If you want highly overclockable RAM, go with the Crucial Ballistix instead:
$110 - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2-800 BL2KIT12864AA804 ($40MIR)

Those ballistix can reach DDR2-1066 easily:
E6750: 8 * 333 = 2.6Ghz, DDR2-667 << STOCK speeds
E6750: 8 * 400 = 3.2Ghz, DDR2-800 << Easy OC
E6750: 8 * 450 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-900 << Good OC
E6750: 8 * 500 = 4.0Ghz, DDR2-1000 << Great OC

If you go with the Q6600, you don't even need highly OC'able ram, since the quadcore cant reach much further than 3.6Ghz anyways.
Q6600: 9 * 266 = 2.4Ghz, DDR2-533 << STOCK speeds
Q6600: 9 * 333 = 3.0Ghz, DDR2-667 << Nice OC
Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC

Ditch the Zalman. Go for one of these instead:
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B
Tuniq Tower 120
Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme + S-Flex fan

If you want dual opticals, just get two dvdrw drives instead of 1 + a reader. No point in the reader only.

If you want DX10, you have no choice but to go with Vista. Stick with XP if you already have a license.

If you want 4GB, go with Vista 64-bit and the Patriot 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2-800 ELK sticks.

The PSU is overpriced, see above.

If you want to upgrade the case fans, pickup some $3.50 Yate Loons from jab-tech.com.

If you're overclocking, stick with the E6750. If you want quadcore, go for the G0 stepping Q6600. This will help you determine whether or not the quadcore is for you...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=872&model2=871&chart=418
 
Danny Bui said:
No you're not. The only part I'm tired of is what I'm gonna write below:

Answer these questions first before we can help you:

1) What are you planning to do with this PC?
2) Does this $3000 budget include tax and shipping?
3) What parts do you need for that $3000 budget? Case, OS, monitor, hard drives, etc?
4) Will you be overclocking?
5) In addition to question 1, do you think this justifies $3000 on a PC?

I think your current system is a damn fine system right now. Just upgrade the video card to an 8800GTX or Ultra and you'll have a better gaming experience.
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My current system now is used by my old lady, As i stated, Mostly Gaming,
3000 for Parts
A complete System- Case, Monitors, everything
Overclocking, a little depends on performance
Yes :D
 
enginurd said:
I'd suggest a case with 120mm fans. The 80mm fans will get loud in that case. The PC-7 uses all 120mm fans.

That PSU is way overpriced. I'd drop it down to the Silverstone Olympia 750W instead -- much cheaper and still good quality. Here are some PSU suggestions:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103

Ditch the dominators cuz they're overpriced. If you want highly overclockable RAM, go with the Crucial Ballistix instead:
$110 - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2-800 BL2KIT12864AA804 ($40MIR)

Those ballistix can reach DDR2-1066 easily:
E6750: 8 * 333 = 2.6Ghz, DDR2-667 << STOCK speeds
E6750: 8 * 400 = 3.2Ghz, DDR2-800 << Easy OC
E6750: 8 * 450 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-900 << Good OC
E6750: 8 * 500 = 4.0Ghz, DDR2-1000 << Great OC

If you go with the Q6600, you don't even need highly OC'able ram, since the quadcore cant reach much further than 3.6Ghz anyways.
Q6600: 9 * 266 = 2.4Ghz, DDR2-533 << STOCK speeds
Q6600: 9 * 333 = 3.0Ghz, DDR2-667 << Nice OC
Q6600: 9 * 400 = 3.6Ghz, DDR2-800 << Great OC

Ditch the Zalman. Go for one of these instead:
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B
Tuniq Tower 120
Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme + S-Flex fan

If you want dual opticals, just get two dvdrw drives instead of 1 + a reader. No point in the reader only.

If you want DX10, you have no choice but to go with Vista. Stick with XP if you already have a license.

If you want 4GB, go with Vista 64-bit and the Patriot 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2-800 ELK sticks.

The PSU is overpriced, see above.

If you want to upgrade the case fans, pickup some $3.50 Yate Loons from jab-tech.com.

If you're overclocking, stick with the E6750. If you want quadcore, go for the G0 stepping Q6600. This will help you determine whether or not the quadcore is for you...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=872&model2=871&chart=418
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Thanks for the input, i changed a few things around,
How many games are out for DX10 now? I already have XP Pro, but trying to decide on upgrading to vista now or waiting.
I going to change the PSU, just which one to go with. How much power will i need for this system?
 
There are 3 DX10 games, and they're all (IIRC) DX9 compatible, lol. As Danny mentioned, all newer games will still be DX9 compatible for a while. Personally, I'm waiting for SP1, as are a bunch of other people -- though, I'm also waiting for a game that I MUST play in DX10, lol.

Use the extreme outervision calculator: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp Keep in mind, this tool overestimates your power needs. Once you get the wattage estimate, multiply that wattage by 0.75, and thats a good estimate of how many amps you need on the combined +12V rail.


To find out how many amps are available on the combined +12V rail, look on the label.

Some labels will say +3.3V & +5V combined max wattage: 150W. So, take the total PSU wattage and subtract the 150W. Then, divide whats left by 12 to get the amperage available. For example, the XClio 500W Goodpower doesn't explicitly state the available amps on the combined +12V rails. Though, its label says 150W max for 3.3V & 5V rails. So, 500-150 = 350W, 350/12 = 29A. Thats a good estimate of the max amperage available.

Some labels will say 456W max for all +12V rails combined. They've done some of the math for you already, so 456/12=38A. This is typically a more reliable number because the PSU label specifically states the available wattage for the +12V rails. (PSU used for example was the NeoHE 500W Antec)

Other PSUs, like the Corsair 620W, will come out and specify 50A on the +12V rails.

You can't always believe the labels, so look for PSU reviews to find out if the label is lying or not. Jonnyguru.com is a good resource for everything PSU related.
 
enginurd said:
There are 3 DX10 games, and they're all (IIRC) DX9 compatible, lol. As Danny mentioned, all newer games will still be DX9 compatible for a while. Personally, I'm waiting for SP1, as are a bunch of other people -- though, I'm also waiting for a game that I MUST play in DX10, lol.

Use the extreme outervision calculator: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp Keep in mind, this tool overestimates your power needs. Once you get the wattage estimate, multiply that wattage by 0.75, and thats a good estimate of how many amps you need on the combined +12V rail.


To find out how many amps are available on the combined +12V rail, look on the label.

Some labels will say +3.3V & +5V combined max wattage: 150W. So, take the total PSU wattage and subtract the 150W. Then, divide whats left by 12 to get the amperage available. For example, the XClio 500W Goodpower doesn't explicitly state the available amps on the combined +12V rails. Though, its label says 150W max for 3.3V & 5V rails. So, 500-150 = 350W, 350/12 = 29A. Thats a good estimate of the max amperage available.

Some labels will say 456W max for all +12V rails combined. They've done some of the math for you already, so 456/12=38A. This is typically a more reliable number because the PSU label specifically states the available wattage for the +12V rails. (PSU used for example was the NeoHE 500W Antec)

Other PSUs, like the Corsair 620W, will come out and specify 50A on the +12V rails.

You can't always believe the labels, so look for PSU reviews to find out if the label is lying or not. Jonnyguru.com is a good resource for everything PSU related.
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DX10 looks great, my question is.. if i go 4GB i need 64bit vista. Which vista should i go with, Home Pre, or ult?
 
enginurd said:
I'd go for premium.
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What do you think for a PSU, i don't want a cheap one, and also i don't want one with a million wires that i cant do any cable management with. Also want it to be feature proof if i decide to get another 8800 and go Sli. Also on the 8800 GTX which version should i go with, i saw there is a lot of different core speeds.
 
Ok, for a PSU recommendation, just read those links that enginurd posted as well as the reviews from www.jonnyguru.com. You should find a PSU that you'll like.

Also, the words "future proof" ( I think thats what you meant instead by "feature proof") is a misnomer. There will never be a PC out there that will be "future proof" because PC parts are the most rapidly evolving items out there. Several years ago, I thought my Pentium 4 2.53Ghz socket 478 CPU, Radeon 9800PRo and 1.5GB of DDR RAM would be "future proof." Now look what has happened now compared to back then. Now we have DDR2 RAM, PCI-E now widely accepted, and a different Intel socket, 775. And in the future, DDR3, PCI-E 2.0, and another new Intel socket will be out. Think any PC built today will still be "future proof"?
 
Danny Bui said:
Ok, for a PSU recommendation, just read those links that enginurd posted as well as the reviews from www.jonnyguru.com. You should find a PSU that you'll like.

Also, the words "future proof" ( I think thats what you meant instead by "feature proof") is a misnomer. There will never be a PC out there that will be "future proof" because PC parts are the most rapidly evolving items out there. Several years ago, I thought my Pentium 4 2.53Ghz socket 478 CPU, Radeon 9800PRo and 1.5GB of DDR RAM would be "future proof." Now look what has happened now compared to back then. Now we have DDR2 RAM, PCI-E now widely accepted, and a different Intel socket, 775. And in the future, DDR3, PCI-E 2.0, and another new Intel socket will be out. Think any PC built today will still be "future proof"?
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I know all too well about that, my latest debate is going with a 8800 GTX or a Ultra. I am trying to decide on which one to get, i am sure the GTX will be more then enough for the games, but then again... I want this PC to be a top notch build. Has anyone noticed a huge difference between the GTX and the ultra?
 
I thought that I would just say that ExtremeTech recently did a test on DX10 vs DX9, and the differences were minimal, yet there was a 20 FPS performance hit. That said, for only 30bucks difference, I would definetely go for the Ultra. Any modular PSU will be good enough to let you not do cable management, and most of them are decent anyway.
 
lamboman said:
I thought that I would just say that ExtremeTech recently did a test on DX10 vs DX9, and the differences were minimal, yet there was a 20 FPS performance hit. That said, for only 30bucks difference, I would definetely go for the Ultra. Any modular PSU will be good enough to let you not do cable management, and most of them are decent anyway.
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I was thinking the same thing about the Cards, I am still looking for a good PSU, i have a few idea's but i want at least a 850 or higher so if i go SLi i will have the power. Thinking a nice 1k unit.
 
Think of going with the Antec Quattro 850,
Still up in the air about the GTX/Ultra and the motherboard
 
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=706&model2=853&chart=318

Pretty damn close to me. But since it's only $30 extra or so, go for it.

Also, you only need SLI if you're gaming on a 24"+ monitor. Since you're going with a 22" monitor, the GTX is all you really need. Hell I think you can make do with the GTS 640MB with a 22".

So if you know you're not gonna need SLI, then go with the Abit IP35 Pro. It's a very good overclocking motherboard.
 
Danny Bui said:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=706&model2=853&chart=318

Pretty damn close to me. But since it's only $30 extra or so, go for it.

Also, you only need SLI if you're gaming on a 24"+ monitor. Since you're going with a 22" monitor, the GTX is all you really need. Hell I think you can make do with the GTS 640MB with a 22".

So if you know you're not gonna need SLI, then go with the Abit IP35 Pro. It's a very good overclocking motherboard.
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I already changed to that mobo, i am thinking of going with the GTX because a lot of people say that the Ultra runs really hot. I am not really sure about the psu yet, its either the Quattro 850 or something else.
I am thinking about the Ram also. Right now i got mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996564 - Retail
For 324.99
Over Priced? I want good ram to OC the chip, but i am wondering if thats too much

What ya think of the- Patriot eXtreme Performance 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC24G6400ELK - Retail
 
Well it depends on which CPU you're going to get. With the Q6600, ANY set of DDR2 800 RAM is all you need to OC it. With the E6750, you might need a better set of RAM but that Mushkin set seems to be a bit overpriced. Dunno too much about that Patriot RAM set.

As for the PSU, read the jonnyguru.com review of it and decide for yourself:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=120
 
Danny Bui said:
Well it depends on which CPU you're going to get. With the Q6600, ANY set of DDR2 800 RAM is all you need to OC it. With the E6750, you might need a better set of RAM but that Mushkin set seems to be a bit overpriced. Dunno too much about that Patriot RAM set.

As for the PSU, read the jonnyguru.com review of it and decide for yourself:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=120
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I am going for the Q6600, I am not really sure what decent DDR2 is, its been 3 years since my last build:p It looks good, but i am not really sure.
 
Like I've said earlier, ANY set of DDR2 RAM is all you need to OC the Q6600. So just find the cheapest 4GB DDR2 800 RAM and you're set.
 
Danny Bui said:
Like I've said earlier, ANY set of DDR2 RAM is all you need to OC the Q6600. So just find the cheapest 4GB DDR2 800 RAM and you're set.
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Ok, but will i notice any difference in the ram with the timings? or any perforamce. I do not want to update this PC for years, why i was looking everything so close. Thanks for the review, not going to get that psu after reading some of that review. So a PSU is still open
 
No you won't notice the difference between timings unless you're running benchmarks. Even then, it's a small increase. So no need to spend extra money on tighter timings. You seriously won't notice the difference.
 
Danny Bui said:
No you won't notice the difference between timings unless you're running benchmarks. Even then, it's a small increase. So no need to spend extra money on tighter timings. You seriously won't notice the difference.
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Ok, well i am way under my budget and i wont need SLi so i wont hit my budget even if i tried. The cheapest 4GB (2x2gb) kit at newegg is like 214 for G.Skill. Here is the list
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...147 1052315794 1052416064&bop=And&Order=PRICE
Thinking the Corsair HX620 for a PSU.. Trying to find a review on it, johnny does not have one that i can find
 
Well after reading much reviews last night, I decide to go with the Corsair HX620. I love the fact of the black cables and that they are flat. Also being a modular PSU is a real plus when going for a clean looking case. I just hope its going to be enough power. I will have a Q6600, 8800 Ultra, IP35 Pro, 4 HDd's, about 8 case fans, and 1-2 DVD burners. Not sure if i am going to go with dual drives or not. I have a IDE burner, but would like to stick with SATA drives. Though no point in spending 40 bucks when I already have one.
 
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