Arrow Lake 2024 (and beyond)

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I've been holding out for an upgrade as my 9900K / Z390 is still serving my non gaming needs quite well.. With the proliferation of AI and various other reasons to "keep up", I am looking forward to how Arrow Lake is going to pan out.. It would be nice to have a single thread to follow developments...so hoping this thread will serve that purpose.

Ultimately, it would be nice if the process shrink will also yield lower power requirements than Intel's 12th-14th gen.. Half that would be really nice, but probably won't see that until Lunar Lake.. by then, it will be really interesting to see if Windows on ARM / RISC will get legs with Nvidia, AMD, Qualcom, and others ramping up on that front. And of course, AMD's new Ryzen offerings are coming... For now, just trying to weed through the speculation, FUD, etc.., observe any eventual leaks, and finally set expectations... Arrow Lake is claimed to also include Intel's version of "Tile Based" chips on the package... (like AMD's chiplets)...

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Overview: https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-arrow-lake-release-date-specs-performance-4401940

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Claims from this site: https://gadgetmates.com/intels-arrow-lake-cpus-a-look-into-the-upcoming-15th-gen-processors

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https://www.guru3d.com/story/intel-arrow-lakes-new-lga1851-socket-and-more-technical-details/

15th gen: 30-40% faster single core than 13th gen... (claimed here):


View: https://youtu.be/nccBhS_1uWg?si=LoD08NM2rBSdyzVH&t=347
 
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By the time the 15th gen is released I may be in line to upgrade my 13600K. The lower power consumption would be a welcome addition.
 
Does anyone else like the idea of getting rid of Hyperthreading and adding more e-cores instead?
 
Doozer said:
Does anyone else like the idea of getting rid of Hyperthreading and adding more e-cores instead?
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Sounds like cost cutting measures to reduce complexity. I'm guessing Intel thinks that the overall performance increase is enough where they can drop hyper-threading support entirely.

More e-cores doesn't really add up to more performance in my opinion. It's mainly the P-cores which Intel only has 8 according to leaks that will carry the brunt of the work. E-cores are supposed to do lower priority, background tasks, etc.

Unless these new e-cores are beefed up somehow to assist the p-cores, I don't expect additional e-cores will increase overall performance at all really.

Most of the gains will probably come from improvements to the p-cores, efficiency gains from new architecture, raw IPC improvements, etc.

"It's not a matter of "better"; rather, they serve different purposes. P core are optimized for high-performance tasks, while E core are designed for energy efficiency and background tasks."

Quoted from E-core vs P-core FAQ: https://premioinc.com/blogs/blog/what-are-p-cores-and-e-cores-in-intel-12th-and-13th-gen-cpu#:~:text=It's not a matter of,energy efficiency and background tasks.
 
I’ll probably finally move from my 8700K to the top of the line Arrow Lake at launch. Arrow Lake and RTX 5090 has been my plan for some time. I have no idea what kind of improvement to expect over 14th gen offerings however.
 
The K processors for Arrow Lake are speculated to come out at some point 2H of 2024, more likely Q4.

I'm holding out for one of those models, my Skylake is getting a bit long in the tooth.
 
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