World’s biggest Atom Smasher Hits a New High

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The European Nuclear Organization know as CERN has hit another high in reaching it's goal of exploring the 'Big Bang Theory" in it's entirety. Let's all hope that they only study the phenomenon, not recreate it.


The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of dark energy and matter. Scientists hope also to approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the big bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago.
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"A full 7 TeV beam contains as much energy as a Royal Navy aircraft carrier steaming at 12 knots," says Lewis Page at The Register. "Once the beams are up, that energy has to go somewhere in the end: If a single magnet were to fail, for instance, a terrific blast of energy would leave the Collider's ring at that point with consequences much the same as if HMS Invincible had suddenly popped out of nowhere and rammed the tunnel."

Now that's power:eek:
 
If the experiment works…well, we will never know.
 
no if the experiment works we will understand the physical world right down to the actual bits that make up the atoms that are in everything. it'll be like understanding the entire human genome, once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways. i believe understanding dark matter and the higgs boson will lead to quantum communication... where distance has no effect.
 
"once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways".

Yeah, great idea. God knows we have been so responsible with the fractional power we now have.

All this science is funded by Government and we know they can be trusted...:rolleyes:
 
BillR said:
"once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways".

Yeah, great idea. God knows we have been so responsible with the fractional power we now have.

All this science is funded by Government and we know they can be trusted...:rolleyes:
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This is true, the human race continues to be able to wipe itself out. It started decades ago with nuclear bombs and will only get worse as time goes on. We can only hope the stupid people will kill themselves more than they kill everyone else.
 
BillR said:
"once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways".

Yeah, great idea. God knows we have been so responsible with the fractional power we now have.

All this science is funded by Government and we know they can be trusted...:rolleyes:
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People run governments and and people run companies. Let's say a private company had enough money would they do anything better or even bother?

I'm just saying it wouldn't really matter and I wanna have some answers. Science forward!
 
niconx said:
This is true, the human race continues to be able to wipe itself out. It started decades ago with nuclear bombs and will only get worse as time goes on. We can only hope the stupid people will kill themselves more than they kill everyone else.
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We are at 6.8 Billion and increasing by 1.2% per year. We could probably use a little 'culling.' Doesn't have to be so explosive, though. :D
 
anthrex said:
People run governments and and people run companies. Let's say a private company had enough money would they do anything better or even bother?

I'm just saying it wouldn't really matter and I wanna have some answers. Science forward!
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People run Governments? Really? Have you watched any news this past year? How about today?
 
BillR said:
People run Governments? Really? Have you watched any news this past year? How about today?
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Shhh! The Romulans will kidnap you and kill you if they find out you're onto them.
 
niconx said:
This is true, the human race continues to be able to wipe itself out. It started decades ago with nuclear bombs and will only get worse as time goes on. We can only hope the stupid people will kill themselves more than they kill everyone else.
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Well it is not like there is a shortage of people. The Earth could stand to lose 2 or 3 billion people if you ask me.
 
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Well it is not like there is a shortage of people. The Earth could stand to lose 2 or 3 billion people if you ask me.
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It sure could, but, are you volunteering to ship out?

That's the problem :/
 
As long as this somehow leads to Star Trek for reals, then I'm all for it.

Gotta get off this damn rock!
 
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Well it is not like there is a shortage of people. The Earth could stand to lose 2 or 3 billion people if you ask me.
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Nearly all countries have regions they'd be better off without.

In America, for example, we could spare Florida and most of the southern states.
 
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Well it is not like there is a shortage of people. The Earth could stand to lose 2 or 3 billion people if you ask me.
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With the way people seem to want to live along active faults this might happen on its own without anybody lifting a finger. Although I would not mind massaging the San Andreas Fault.

Wait. Did I post this already?
 
I was under the impression they were shutting her down for another year or so? so is the doomsday god particle end of days timer still counting down?
 
That would be a nice idea.

Unfortunately in today's corporate world the R&D gets done in California while Texas has the finance or holding company.
 
whats rong with florida? all of our space program s centered in the southen states aswell
 
BillR said:
"once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways".

Yeah, great idea. God knows we have been so responsible with the fractional power we now have.

All this science is funded by Government and we know they can be trusted...:rolleyes:
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CERN is funded by 20 European nations. The experiment results are freely available to anyone. "Government" doesn't control CERN, and the US government (which your later posts are directed at) has no connection to CERN whatsoever. Take the US gov political rant to a relevant thread - this one isn't it.

And so far we have been pretty responsible with the power we have. How many nuclear weapons have been used in acts of war and/or terror again? The answer is TWO. We have only used TWO nuclear weapons offensively since their invention, and NONE in the last 40 years. The number of active nuclear weapons is also rapidly declining. Military tech has been getting smarter and more accurate to reduce innocent casualties.
 
krupted said:
no if the experiment works we will understand the physical world right down to the actual bits that make up the atoms that are in everything. it'll be like understanding the entire human genome, once we know how everything is really made we can alter it in unimaginable ways. i believe understanding dark matter and the higgs boson will lead to quantum communication... where distance has no effect.
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It's not that simple figuring all that stuff out even if the experiment works; it will be a very long time before any of that is figured out to the extent like that of the human genome.
 
being able to understand how to create matter is what we need to figure out first, we are stuck with what we have on earth, if we decide to move outward to other planets and/or space we would certainly need to be able to create matter from other materials we have available.
 
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Well it is not like there is a shortage of people. The Earth could stand to lose 2 or 3 billion people if you ask me.
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No need for draconian measures, either. Something like 150,000 people die every day. The trick is to stop replacing (and then supplementing) those numbers so quickly.

I believe the Optimum Trust has been set up for that purpose.
 
Trimlock said:
being able to understand how to create matter is what we need to figure out first, we are stuck with what we have on earth, if we decide to move outward to other planets and/or space we would certainly need to be able to create matter from other materials we have available.
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E=MC^2

How much energy you got?
 
Spewn said:
It sure could, but, are you volunteering to ship out?

That's the problem :/
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Right..I get it.

My point was, who cares if we make a new BFG to kill more people. Seems the best population control is and always has been to kill. It works in virtually every predator prey model I know of.

Could things like population control work? Sure, China seems to make it work. But it still involves killing people. China even has a mobile execution vehicle for your convenience.
 
Im all for the LHC..
I mean, what other species, human, alien, or other has created a black hole.. None, because they all became crushed into non-existence.. Its just a fun game where everyone wins because no one ever lives to tell anyone about it. Maybe every black hole we are aware of is because some other intergalactic genius wanted to know too much, and succeeded.. We dont know.. But were sure as hell gonna find out :D

Who cares if our entire civilization gets vaporized in a blink of an eye, its gonna happen eventually..
 
Dammit, No edit..


But in addition.. If we do figure out the legos blocks of life and existence.. I want a god damned thunder-cougar-falcon-bird
 
Smashing atoms, black matter, super speeds....I wonder if it could play Crysis.
 
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Could things like population control work? Sure, China seems to make it work. But it still involves killing people. China even has a mobile execution vehicle for your convenience.
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The one-child policy is all but eliminated, and trying illustrate the mobile execution van as some form of population control is just ignorant.

There was never enough infanticide in China to be considered population control in and of itself. It is even argued that the One Child policy was not even needed to achieve the desired results for birthrates...as in the results were possible (theoretically) without any legislation at all. Simple education and prosperity would have done the trick...with a side order of lingering fear. ;)

As to their number of executions (mobile or not), it is far from being considered a method of population control. 5-15k(ish) people in a year with a population of 1.3 billion really is not enough to be considered population control by any realistic measurement.

So anyway, yes...population control can likely be had without killing but there are other factors in play which would need to be met for that to happen most likely. Obviously, killing folks would be the simplest method of pop control but it is far from the only one.
 
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