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The new dual slot Sapphires are extremely quiet when you set manual fan control. I set mine to 40% and the card never gets above 55-57c.

I put an eVGA 9800GT in my wife's PC and woke up to the same thing right before xmas. Swapped it for a 9600GT with no issues, but seems odd this is plaguing multiple models?

I just dumped my 9800GT a couple weeks ago, but I found the 179.24s to be a better choice for the G92 and LOTRO.

If you hold on to video cards for a while, I'd get the HD4870. If you are upgrading EVERYTHING when you build your new rig, HD4850.

I got my 4870 a few weeks ago because my new display runs at 1920x1200, you can pick up a decent 4870 with a much better cooler for under $200 now.

Overall I have no complaints with Intel pricing, there is something for every budget, but I really hope we get some competition from AMD this coming year so we can see some price movement on that chart.

If you can't see the difference between upscaled DVD and even 720p you are blind.

Since several people in this debate have stated that support from EA is relevant to the success of PhysX, I think it has a place. If the game has PhysX support but no one buys it due to DRM it kind of cancels out the positive, doesn't it?

This has nothing to do with feelings, but play it how you feel you must.

1920x1200, runs everything I have thrown at it. Right now that would include LOTRO/Moria w/DX10 client, Fallout 3, The Witcher EE, Tomb Raider Underworld, Far Cry 2 and Crysis. With the exception of Crysis I have everything on high/very high with 2-8xAA and 16xAF and most titles stay near 60fps...

Bang for the buck right now would go to the Sapphire HD4870, $179 with an excellent non-reference cooler. I grabbed one last week and it's outstanding for the price.

Which claims, the well known DRM scheme they use on all new games or the numerous previews that show Cryostasis running at 35fps on a GTX260? If you honestly aren't aware of either of these then you aren't qualified to use the Internet any longer, please close your browser and go outside.

No one is taking it personal, we just all know that what you are claiming has no basis in reality. If you are happy with a stretched and blurry image that is great, but don't try and convince everyone it's equal to running at native res or that is just doesn't matter.

I'm glad you are okay with this but I think you are really only trying to convince youreself. The screenshots are irrelevant as they don't represent the stretched and blurry image your eyes are seeing on screen. No doubt your video card is rendering that image, but I doubt it is what you are...

I've enabled it on my last 3 systems with no issues playing music or games, of course YMMV.

Yea, DX10 is finally getting viable between hardware upgrades and developer progress. Far Cry 2 and the latest LOTRO client both provide very playble framerates under DX10 so go for it, no reason not to at this time.

I have the 100259L, with the fan on auto it ramps up with the slightest load but with it locked at 40% you can't hear it and temps never go above 54c on load. Had it for a week, very impressed so far. This was after returning a reference design 4870 due to heat and noise this summer.

Sadly you are not blind or lazy, someone is actually suggesting just that.

It was spotty between releases sometimes, but Withcer EE, LOTRO:MoM, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3 and Tomb Raider Underworld are all fighting for my time right now and that is just the last few weeks.

That is whay my Windows Home Server sits in.

Should be fine.

Yes, but since the build would easily run on an Earth Watts 380 just about any PSU mentioned in this thread so far would be far from "skimping".

Yea they are.

Up until recentely I had the MSI copper heat pipe model in my PC and it was great, but I bought my HD4870 so it's headed for eBay. Check out the MSI.

EA, lol, any other debate and they would be getting slammed for all their heavy handed and evil tactics. Bottom line, if nVidia thinks people are going to run out and buy PhysX enabled GPUs and then be happy with 35fps they are high.

The Vista black screen is only for 4850 X-fire users in general, so that is hardly the issue you paint it to be. And I just sold my 9800GTX+ and jumped to a 4870 and so far, I'm having fewer driver issues with the ATi card than I was with my nV card. Purely anecdotal of course, but my 4870 is...

Considering how poorly nV's top of the line cards perform with Cryostasis I see no value in this at all.

If you can only get 35fps with a GTX sereis card, you do need two video cards. If that is the best they can do GPU based physics are in trouble. So far it has been a gimmick included in lame games.

Game looks meh and those numbers suck, if you can't get serious frame rates with a single GTX2xx then it's a joke. I was dragging my heels about selling my 9800GTX+ because of PhysX, now I'm glad I didn't wait. Kyle posted the most realistic view of the physics situation in the thread, Havok...

My bro-in law still has my Intel 925x Abit board cranking away under his desk.

Okay, I've been at it all day reinstalling Windows and loading apps. I've only half-heartedly tried to OC yet, but 3.4ghz barely moves the temps so there is plenty of headroom. I've played several hours of games at 1920x1200 including Far Cry 2, LOTRO w/Moria, The Witcher, Fallout 3 and Tomb...

Typing this from my P5Q Pro w/E8400 right now, simple install and so far rock stable.

I've got a P5Q Pro on the UPS truck now for another build I'm doing, in fact the very combo mentioned above, appears to be a very nice board.

How is The Witcher not already in this discussion?

Fixed my crash on exit, haven't played a long enough session t judge the whole package yet.

I own both, for large video cards and cable managment I prefer the 590.

I used the Windows XP SP2 driver direct from Intel's web site when I set up my WHS. Just unzip it and update the driver via device manager, should work just fine.

1920x1200, all sliders max, 4xAA I get pretty solid framerates with a 9800GTX+ everywhere. I use vsync so I consider 45-60fps very playable.

Using an MS LifeCam VX-5000 here, love it, real 64 bit drivers, doesn't load a bunch of junk background services, very well reviewed for it's low light capability.

Yea, I'd have to agree with some of the posters above, in general eVGA is a great company to deal with and there is way to much evidence to contradict that.