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Does the rage fury maxx count? edit: not to mention the obsidian cards :P

I agree with the 965. Adding the L3 cache will make a nice difference, as will the extra clocks. It's one of my favorite AMD cpus. The extra core won't hurt, but in the end I think the cache and clocks will help more for gaming, although I guess it depends on what game you're playing too.

You know, actually I just asked myself why there were so few benchmarks for BF3 on the CPU side. I have found my answer: It doesn't depend on the CPU so much, so so long as you're not hurting on the single threaded side too much...

The G850 wasn't available 5 years ago, and the 6600 was a monster processor for its time with a really long lifespan. It'd have been hard to go wrong with it. When it comes to gaming, the 965 and the 2100 are pretty close. You could go with either one and get good performance. If you do more...

I would not rely on overclocking. Do you have a PC you can use in the interim? I'd see if you can trade some of your parts, there are plenty of UK gamers around. I think there are even some UK specific PC forums, that might make trading easier. Here's what I'd do: with the way ram prices are...

Yeah, for 100 dollars just get an i3 2100. If you're going AMD, even a 965 would be better than an FX-4100. For just a little more, you could probably get a low end sandy bridge quad. Something like an i3 2300 would kick the pants out of both of those CPUs.

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So, the motherboard in my aunt's computer died. I decided it would be better to try and upgrade it than just replace the motherboard, so I'm on the hunt. It looks like I can get something like a celeron G530 and an entry level H61 motherboard for the 100 ish range between sites like newegg and...

So, my motherboard died on me and I'm looking for another one. I could go AMD or intel, but I need it to be cheap... so 40 shipped to 31721 is the cap right now. I'm looking for mATX and something better than a 945 chipset in intel, and something that will support AM2+(I know some boards support...

You should try posting that up on atariage. They'll eat something like that right up.

last bump before I go ahead and get something

I need an AM2+ motherboard on a budget price. Just needs to support an athlon 640 X4 (95W) Motherboard died :(

I thought the bitcoin boom was over? Is it still going?

AMD already has a quad core with similar or better IPC. The 4100 doesn't change much.

hot hardware is up.

AMD will get... All My Dollars!!!! LOL too bad I have none :(

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$350 for an athlon II x2???

All the guy is saying is that you can even make a prescott run cool if you neuter it enough :P Or have aawwwweeessoommeee cooling.

Advantage to MCM 8 core: quad memory channels instead of dual.

Yeah, but isn't that more dependent on the video card than the CPU? I mean, wouldn't it be more likely to mask CPU performance?

Well, at least wait till the HOCP event. See what happens. If nothing big comes of it, just go ahead and get the 2500k. It's hard to beat that kind of value. The only reason I'd wait is if you are on a really, really tight budget. You might get a bit more features for the $$$ in an AMD...

people still use lotus 1-2-3!!!

And I would imagine that the price is at least somewhat based on how well the wafers yield.

Might I suggest that, even if bulldozer gets more $ per die for AMD, it might have poorer yields, so in the end $ per wafer might be more for llano. Llano being easier to produce also makes sense because both the GPU and CPU architectures it is made from have been around for a while.

I don't think its so much the ratio of CPU:GPU in the benchmarks rather than maybe AMD and nvidia seem to think that the HD3000/2000 is overrepresented. Someone else already mentioned this once? makes sense to me.

idea: head everything GPU under the voodoo name and all the arm/chipset(well, they're not doing this anymore are they?)/etc stuff under the nvidia name :P well, its not going to happen but it would be neat!

No, but your neighbors might... and the wrath might be worse :P

pretty sure toshiba has some out.

There has been speculation of a 2c llano die, but currently 2c llanos are cut down 4c llanos. IOW, only one llano die is being manufacture at the time. Okay, it's not speculation. It's mentioned on anandtech's review.

Yes, the reviews we have seen of llano do show lackluster CPU performance, which was... expected to some extent? It's a little worse than I thought it would be though. the MX variants should help that some(the best one is 1.9 non turbo vs 1.5) but at the cost of TDP. I think we'll still get...

Well, its a hell of a lot better than what they had. This way they aren't getting trumped everywhere. I hope they can get more memory bandwidth somehow in the next fusion iteration.

Yes, but this was expected, no?

hmmm.... it's still giving it to me. In any case, got the screenshot now so no worries :P

ooo 240 cores? I thought it was going to be 160 for the lower end. Nice.

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Well, if you can get a 570 for a similar price then I would go with that. At this point, most stuff is priced at its performance anyway. You just need to look at what games you play and decide how much performance you want to pay for.

the 6950 is a 300$ card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161368&cm_re=6950-_-14-161-368-_-Product edit: lol, it's out of stock.

if it's an EE, I wouldn't be surprised if it's worth 75$

Yes, that's true... the power consumption for this sort of thing will be awesome. Another reason why I think it's going to be fantabulous for laptops.