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It's at 30% constant (set in the XML file through a CCC profile). 60 idle/77 load cause my room is hot but that's still cool enough. Heat shouldn't be causing artifacts at 905 mhz on memory. And as I said, this was working fine for hours yesterday. 8.6 Hotfix drivers, Visa x64

Yep, as the topic says I can't seem to OC from 900 mhz to 905 mhz using overdrive. It was working fine yesterday. I played Crysis at 790/1100 (core/mem) but today, the monitor starts blinking (as in some random distorted crap shows up on the screen for a split second and goes away every few...

I remember back when I used to get angry and resort to name calling on the internet. I was 14 at the time. I suppose getting the best card for your money doesn't matter to you since Mommy buys it for you. Here are the facts: there are web sites that DO measure gameplay experience, thus...

That's an incredibly stupid analogy. More memory is better, but only with everything else being EQUAL. But the GTX 260 gets beat most of the time so clearly these cards are anything but equal. Cherry-picking results FTL. That said, GTX 260 is the better deal if you can get a rebate to...

Damn how are people getting 48 C idle? I get 60 C idle at 35% fan speed. I thought maybe the thermal paste was a hack job and reapplied some myself. Same result.

Just got my HIS 4870. That little screwdriver/LED/leveler tool rocks. Worth getting the HIS model just for that. :D

Yup, and it very likely will be with Catalyst 8.7. Your point? Is it a reason not to get the card? I'm guessing you don't know what a red herring is, because you just used another one. In which of these cases did the other side (ATI or NV) have a card $350 cheaper which performed very...

You can't do something that takes 10 seconds? There is nothing wrong with the cards - AMD chose noise reduction over temp reductions. Most people will use the card as it came without any issues throughout its life. They won't even bother to check the temp readings and wouldn't care even if...

You do realize that it takes 2 edits to a text file to fix the cooling? Which really just makes me wonder why things went so wrongly for NV.

There ARE 4800 drivers and it's on their site. Your being unable to find them speaks more about you than AMD or NV: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894

It's XS. That's all they do. IMO, they have NO credibility when saying that. But yeah, use CCC for overclocking and edit the XML file to change fan speed. Changing the idle clock will have to wait.

First off, no one is entitled to getting more out of their cards. That's why we call it modding. Second, there's a huge, huge difference between software overclocking and BIOS flashing. The XS people have no case, especially considering RBE's 4800 series support was clearly labeled as...

You'd need to volt mod to go much farther though.

Is there any way to do progressive control? (i.e. fan gets faster as temps rise)

Newegg's HIS and Sapphire models restock on 6/30. I suggest waiting for that. Remember to spend all day refreshing the page. =D

This has to be the best looking reference cooler in a while. BTW what did you get with the card? The little pen-like thing labeled HIS...

6/30 here. It's sitting about a 100 miles away but they don't deliver on weekends.

Pity... I was never planning to flash the BIOS to overclock but it looks like we'll all have to do it anyway to fix the horrible fan speed and idling clock. Is that relatively safe? Or is there some other way to do it?

And MTAEVWD! http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=2420 So far we have not seen this card choke because of lack of VRAM at 1920x1200 and below. If anything out there can cause that, it would be this.

+1 for 4870. Your comp is GPU limited.

So you got 820 on core without any volt mod?

ASUS announced a 1GB 4850. Their 4870 is only 512MB. I recommend waiting for a GTX 280 price drop or for a 1GB 4870 (that's gonna take a while, probably at least a month). At 2560x1600, it's a bad idea to compromise on graphics.

Occam's Razor -> Nvidia made bad engineering decisions. No need to cook up conspiracy theories.

I don't think anyone cares what you bought so stop going around trying to justify it because it looks kinda desperate. If you think you made a rational purchase, good for you. OP, it could be CF, but I think 4850s may just not have the bandwidth for 2560x1600. Post your results when new...

Actually it does do something - just not much. http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/06/24/the-nothing-card/ http://www.digit-life.com/articles3/monitor/his-iclear.html Even though the positive effect is minimal (but existent), at no point does it have a negative effect so if you get it for...

Except electronics decline in value (very rapidly) as they age, not rise. The problem is not simply that GTX 280 costs too much, the problem is that it actually gets beat by 4870 in some cases (particularly in high AA). And gets slaughtered by Crossfire (which is $600). You'd have an argument...

Disappointing. Hope AMD releases a new Catalyst soon. But the pictures are nice. :D This isn't just poor scaling, it's negative scaling. That points to drivers.

$450 for me. 4870 can perform at a level 80% of the 280's (and higher when AA is cranked up, particularly 8x). Yeah sure, we pray a premium for the bleeding edge. But a $350/100% premium is absurd. $150 above 4870 is much more reasonable. And the GTX 260 needs to drop to $300 or below ASAP...

Everyone seems to have jumped on the Visiontek bandwagon here at [H], but yeah, HIS is very reputable.

I'm on one of those right now. Excellent monitor.

If 1600x1200 and under - not at all. If at 1920x1200 - usually no. If at 2560x1600 - probably. Of course it depends on which games you play too. Modded Oblivion, for example, can easily go into 700+ MB of VRAM usage, but that's extremely unusual among games.

ROFL that was fast. I bookmarked a search for 4870 on 7 etailers and put it on the toolbar in Firefox. Clicked on all 7 every 15 minutes. Glad my morning was well spent. =)

Don't count on a 1GB coming for a month or 2. 512MB is the reference specification so board partners need to make the decision to make a 1GB model - and who's going to do that when GDDR5 is in shortage?

HIS (due to lack of ugly sticker) ordered at the egg. I don't mind $10 over MSRP.

But it IS up. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUyNCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Care to cite any sources? Particularly how the 512MB RAM and simpler PCB of the 4850 and the 1GB RAM and complex 512-bit PCB of the 280 both cost the same. Oh, and this doesn't even cover many, many things. Hypernova spelled them out for you.

Xenos for the Xbox 360.

At least ASUS has a 1GB version of 4850. No 1 GB 4870s though.

Silus was the guy that desperately believed RV770 had only 480 SPs up until a few days after people actually started getting 4850s (when the rest of us had long before already seen the die shots, AMD slides, and performance #'s and accepted them). :rolleyes: He's quite the fanboy himself. Ah...

Yes, the Catalyst Control Center has overscan correction.