How to OC your 7800 - what clocks work best

HeavyH20

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After some testing, the best points on the core clock of the nVidia 7800 series cards are whole multiples of the core frequency oscillation of 27 MHz. That calculates to the following root core clocks:

(17 x 27) - 40 = 419
(18 x 27) - 40 = 446
(19 x 27) - 40 = 473
(20 x 27) - 40 = 500
(21 x 27) - 40 = 527
(22 x 27) - 40 = 554
(23 x 27) - 40 = 581

And, here is how a single MHz below the whole number threshold affects 3Dmark05 scores:

445 8052
446 8222

472 8404
473 8508

499 8669
500 8753

Now, what about the other two cores. How are those controlled?

Well, when you adjust the root clock, you actually adjust all three clocks.

The root clock gets bumped by 40 MHz to represent the real geometry or vertex core clock. So, lets pick 450 core, which so many vendors use. 486 is the best vertex clock value (18*27), which translates to 446 root (486-40). So, we would actually have 490 using a 450 root clock, a 4 Mhz pad on the required frequency.

But, the shader and ROP cores start at 415 (really 418.5) in low power, and jump in whole frequency values (ie, 17 x 27 = 459) to a value that is less than13.5 Ghz from the closest whole value to the root frequency. In this case the root frequency is 450. So, this limits the other two cores to (17 x 27 ) 459, since 450 is 9 MHz less than 459 but 18 MHz over 432 (16 x 27).

So, a little confusing, but you do have some control over the other two clocks.

So, here is a list of primary - vertex based (red) and secondary - ROP and shader based (yellow) root clock OC targets. The red will yield the larger gain, and you will see a second, albeit smaller gain on the blue clocks where the GOP/Shader clock is the same as the root clock.

419
432 - the nVidia spec root clock
446 - so many vendors use 450
459 - why BFG uses 460
473
486 - why eVGA, XFX, and BFG use 490 on limited cards
500
513
527
540 - How I got 9512 on 3DMark05 with a lowly 3200+ and one 7800 GTX ;)
554
567
581
594
608
621

Here is an example of the clustering of the results before and after the secondary clock:

484 - 8465
485 - 8464
486 - 8482
487 - 8485
488 - 8489

So, still a bit of linear growth, but a small bump at the right frequency.

A sample of the clocks for 579, with the root clock at 530 (ASUS TOP BIOS has a 50 MHz bump).

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Interesting. I'll have to play around with my overclocks today and see if I can't get it higher than before. I never paid much attention to the 27MHz, but I will see what I can manage with it.

Nice overclocks btw.
 
So I got my comp up yesterday and found I think a stable OC. So I started on the vid card (BFG 7800gt). Anyhow I messed around a lot and I think for me its best if I leave the core clock at like 486 and raise the ram as high as it goes, gave me hte best scores while keeping the temps <69 (7950 core-486 memory-1230). I used like coolbits and the optimal settings have the core around 500, but I think I hit 70C whenever I ran 3dmark05 with it.

Anyhow I thought I'd try to max out everything, which I think for the core its 513 and memory 1230. Anyhow I managed to get through 3dmark05 with that scored 8248. Although the temp jumped to 71 at one point. So I don't think it'll be feasible during the day atleast during summer.

Idle for the card is like max 51C usually 49-50 during the day. Right now its 48C. However whenever I run 3Dmark it jumps to 69C for most of the test does everyones card do that?

screenshot
 
Thats about the same temps that my card gets. Average room temp at my friends house is 82F.

Mine goes from 55C to 65C and when I have it clocked at 473 core that 65 goes to 68C-70C.
 
Oh ok. Yea it gets to be around 80ish (probably a bit higher) in my room during the day too but its cooling down now and theres a nice breeze in. Anyhow I think I'm gonna put it back to stock to see what kind of temps it gets. btw posted a screenshot
 
510kut said:
Oh ok. Yea it gets to be around 80ish (probably a bit higher) in my room during the day too but its cooling down now and theres a nice breeze in. Anyhow I think I'm gonna put it back to stock to see what kind of temps it gets. btw posted a screenshot

Hey, can you post your findings on the 7800 series performance survey thread??

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=945092
 
Wow...that's impressive. I'm gonna cross-reference that with my own OC results and see what happens :D
 
i have been using your table and i would like to say thanks

for posting ya work

baz
 
bazx said:
i have been using your table and i would like to say thanks

for posting ya work

baz


No problem. Always find good info here a [H].

As for the memory, drop it from 1.15 to 1.12.
 
According to an article on Anand, the 7800gt is different from the gtx. For instance, performance increase jumps going from 461 to 462.
Here is a quote,:

After running some tests with Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, we found that the frequencies didn't match up with what we saw with the 7800 GTX. We didn't see any jump in framerate between 472MHz/473MHz as we did with the GTX; instead, jumps occurred between 461MHz/462MHz and 477MHz/478MHz. We will be looking into this more closely in the next 7800 GT article, and hopefully, we can shed some more light on NVIDIA's frequency selection issues.

Can anyone confirm this???
 
There is also something goin on with the vendor BIOS from GT to GT. Some bump on 3D and some do not. I have been looking at the different BIOS settings, and trying to see if any pattern emerges.

There is a difference in the GT timings. All the timings are different by 5 MHz.
 
plywood99 said:
According to an article on Anand, the 7800gt is different from the gtx. For instance, performance increase jumps going from 461 to 462.
Here is a quote,:

After running some tests with Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, we found that the frequencies didn't match up with what we saw with the 7800 GTX. We didn't see any jump in framerate between 472MHz/473MHz as we did with the GTX; instead, jumps occurred between 461MHz/462MHz and 477MHz/478MHz. We will be looking into this more closely in the next 7800 GT article, and hopefully, we can shed some more light on NVIDIA's frequency selection issues.

Can anyone confirm this???

I'm gonna test 478/1.12 on my bfg 7800 gt oc
HeavyH20 said:
There is also something goin on with the vendor BIOS from GT to GT. Some bump on 3D and some do not. I have been looking at the different BIOS settings, and trying to see if any pattern emerges.

There is a difference in the GT timings. All the timings are different by 5 MHz.
Let us know when you find out :)
 
I did a pencil volt mod for the memory on my card. Allowed me to reach 1275mhz. Ram on my card does not oc that well....
 
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