2.2 GHz A64 vs 2.5 GHz Athlon XP

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Which would you take and why (AXP = barton)? I assume the A64 would be faster, but I've never seen any benches.
 
I went from a 2.2 chip (XP3200) to a 2.2 Chip Althon 64 (3500+ 90mm).

Sandra benches:

CPU - 9085
3433/4496

MM - 16291
21466

Memory - 5655
5612

CPU - 8386
3461

MM - 20186
20542

Memory - 2995
2793

Both had 1G of DRR400 (2.5cl). Same Video Card (6600GT).

The Second Set of # if Barton XP3200! It was a Upgraded Forced by having to Build New System for Mom. I gave her my 1 year old XP3200 System with ATI 9250 Video Card.

Really no noticeable difference in speed of systems except some games seem smoother.

3D Marks 05 lost 1% in the A64!

On the Barton the fastest you can buy is 2.2 Chip (XP3200). They make no 2.4 Chip! Do you mean Overclocking? The A64 I have does 2.4 just fine on default.



DM
 
Reason...

Cause A64 is simply faster.... WoW jumped 30fps higher with 3200+ @ default from a a XPmobile 2200+ @ 2.5gz.

Also, boot time is about 30 seconds less ^_^.

Rad777
 
Why compare an OC'd chip to a stock A64(or close to it) anyways? It's not likely you will only be able to run 2.2GHz on an A64. Get an A64. Mine does almost 2.7GHz on stock cooler and TIM. It's not always clockrates and averages.... an A64 has few weaknesses. Fire up a demanding app on a cpu like UT2004 and it seems the A64's make it look like nothing. My AXP's @ 2.6 has some stutter no matter what that my stock A64 won't. The mem controller on chip really opens things up.
 
texuspete00 said:
Why compare an OC'd chip to a stock A64(or close to it) anyways? It's not likely you will only be able to run 2.2GHz on an A64. Get an A64. Mine does almost 2.7GHz on stock cooler and TIM. It's not always clockrates and averages.... an A64 has few weaknesses. Fire up a demanding app on a cpu like UT2004 and it seems the A64's make it look like nothing. My AXP's @ 2.6 has some stutter no matter what that my stock A64 won't. The mem controller on chip really opens things up.
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Well I would only be getting a A64 2800+ (754), then upgrade for dual core socket M2 in 2 years
 
Rad, Wow you said that WOW went up 30FPS, what resolution, clip plane, details, video card did you use. I have run into a bottleneck on my computer and I think it's my Athlon XP 3200 with 333mhz FSB (compaq motherboard clocks it down). I am wondering if it's the processer's access speed to the memory, because I get alot of FPS drop in cities even with few people in the city. I'm thinking that the cities have a lot of textures and put them in the ram and my XP just can't access it fast enough. BTW I have a gig of ram, (PC3200 clocked at PC2700speeds(compaq motherboard), and a 6600GT.
 
When I first upgraded to my A64 3000+, I benchmarked Ut2k3 with a 2.0ghz A64 vs. a 2.4ghz barton (memory both at 400mhz). The A64 was usually 5-15% faster on the different maps I ran.

I also ran the A64 at 2.4ghz vs. a 2.4ghz barton, and the A64 typically beat it by 15-35% on the different maps. This was all on 1024x768 high quality everything with no aa/af. I actually did save all of my bench scores but I lost them in a format. Wish I could do it over again.
 
sKiDmArK said:
When I first upgraded to my A64 3000+, I benchmarked Ut2k3 with a 2.0ghz A64 vs. a 2.4ghz barton (memory both at 400mhz). The A64 was usually 5-15% faster on the different maps I ran.

I also ran the A64 at 2.4ghz vs. a 2.4ghz barton, and the A64 typically beat it by 15-35% on the different maps. This was all on 1024x768 high quality everything with no aa/af. I actually did save all of my bench scores but I lost them in a format. Wish I could do it over again.
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Awesome this was the sort of proof I needed. I was pretty much set on A64 since its something to fool around with (esp linux), but I'm now going to think of parts. Settled on the Chaintech VNF-250 mobo.
 
check out my sig......that KILLS my athlon xp 2600+ Oced to 3400+ speeds....

XP=tons of s tuttering in CS:S
a64=raised FPS AND made it MUCH smoother
 
My last setup was a mobile xp 2500+ @ 2.5 and my current 3200+ 939 a64 even @ stock 2.0 outran it. 1st bootup even starting win2k i was like woah wait. Its actually booting at a decent rate for once! :p
 
Yeah, if someone would have told me I would notice windows load faster I would have been like yeah right... but it's true. Antivirus and everything else startup is like cha-ching too. These things own.
 
an a64 is undoubtably faster, but i'm not certain about going with a 2800+ over a 2.5ghz axp (mobile?). the reason being that you will need some pretty high memory speeds to get a good overclock out of the 2800+. so youll be buying a $120 board, $140 processor, upwards to $280 on better ram, and however much on a good cooler. that's over $550 to boost your fps a bit IF your computer is CPU limited right now.
 
jamestime88 said:
an a64 is undoubtably faster, but i'm not certain about going with a 2800+ over a 2.5ghz axp (mobile?). the reason being that you will need some pretty high memory speeds to get a good overclock out of the 2800+.
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you need good memory to overclock? this isn't true, ram dividers do exist.. i really need to write up my post on a64 & memory speed and prove to everyone once and for all that speed makes a very small difference
 
How much of a performance hit does running a RAM divider with A64? I haven't been able to take my RAM past 220 MHz (2.5-3-3-7), and I don't intend to buy anything new
 
pretty much no hit as the architecture is different. The memory is always really running a divider off the cpu. Even in cpu-z... you'll see it will say like "CPU/11" for the divider section. Picking 166 causes the number to increase. It picks the number such that it will be closest but not above 166 (WIthout considering the overclock). Not saying memory MHz dont matter but the dividers dont have ANY hit on their own. That said with a cpu with a multi of 9 you do have to worry about HTT scaling of the mobo. To get the 2.7GHz I'm getting out of my 3500+ would require 300HTT... a feat not every board can do.
 
texuspete00 said:
pretty much no hit as the architecture is different. The memory is always really running a divider off the cpu. Even in cpu-z... you'll see it will say like "CPU/11" for the divider section. Picking 166 causes the number to increase. It picks the number such that it will be closest but not above 166 (WIthout considering the overclock). Not saying memory MHz dont matter but the dividers dont have ANY hit on their own. That said with a cpu with a multi of 9 you do have to worry about HTT scaling of the mobo. To get the 2.7GHz I'm getting out of my 3500+ would require 300HTT... a feat not every board can do.
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Well I'm not really aiming for anything incredibly ambitious. 2.2 or 2.3 GHz would be fine. And I'm considering the 3000+ as well.
 
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