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4.9 Beta Catalyst Drivers Out. (For Doom 3)
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shockwave85
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DryFire said:
Actually they work great for most people. Don't know WTF you're talking about here.
Ok I just tested these drivers on my x800 VIVO@xt-pe:
Game Config
Ultra High Quality
Vsync Off
1280x1024 resolution
TIMEDEMO 1
Catalyst 4.8b Results
FPS: 60.2
Catalysts 4.9b Results
FPS 66.3
Definitely a very nice increase for x800 series cards, thanks ATi! Hopefully they can continue to crank up the OGL performance through drivers for all ATi cards.
Game Config
Ultra High Quality
Vsync Off
1280x1024 resolution
TIMEDEMO 1
Catalyst 4.8b Results
FPS: 60.2
Catalysts 4.9b Results
FPS 66.3
Definitely a very nice increase for x800 series cards, thanks ATi! Hopefully they can continue to crank up the OGL performance through drivers for all ATi cards.
PureBooYah
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Xenozx said:
you would rather have them NOT make any driver releases? At least they're trying to make their cards faster rather than doing nothing and saying screw you consumers, which isn't uncommon with some hardware (i.e. motherboard support). Yes the drivers are beta's, but that's just saying to me "hey, we're working on new drivers to help D3 performance and here's what we got so far, try them out at your own discretion."It usually takes competition from another company (nvidia in this case) to wake another company up and get their act together. Ati did it to nvidia with the 9700pro and nvidia is doing it to ati right now with the 6800's (although to a lesser degree IMO)
Substantial gains on my 9800 Pro 256Mb. Running timdemo demo1 on high quality 1024x768 I got 45fps, now I get 52fps. System:
Mobile 2500+ @ 2.4Ghz/400fsb
1Gb Twinmos
Radeon 9800Pro 256Mb 445/750
Asus A7N8X
Haven't tested it much, can't vouch for image quality/bugs....
Mobile 2500+ @ 2.4Ghz/400fsb
1Gb Twinmos
Radeon 9800Pro 256Mb 445/750
Asus A7N8X
Haven't tested it much, can't vouch for image quality/bugs....
I just upgraded to 4.9 and here are my results:
All tests done at 1600x1200 and in game "Ultra High" settings. The windows settings for the OpenGL drivers were set to "balanced" and the AA settings were changed in game only. I ran each demo twice and then used the second score since the first one is always low due to texture loading slowdowns.
No AA - Cat4.7 = 47.7fps
No AA - Cat4.9 = 50.0fps
+2.3fps, +4.8%
2xAA - Cat4.7 = 39.1fps
2xAA - Cat4.9 = 42.4fps
+3.3fps, +8.4%
4xAA - Cat4.7 = 28.3fps
4xAA - Cat4.9 = 32.5fps
+4.2fps, +14.8%
So it appears that the biggest benefit will be seen by turning up AA, and considering that with the old drivers the game was fully playable on my system at 1600x1200xUltra, adding in 2xAA should probably still be playable (for me atleast, in this kind of game 40+ is usually fine, YMMV).
BTW, My system specs are:
MoBo -- ABIT KV8 Pro
CPU -- AMD 64 3000+ Newcastle @ 225mhz
Video Card -- ATI Radeon x800XT-Platinum Edition @ 537/558
RAM -- 1GB Kingston DDR PC-3200 (single stick)
Hdrive = 2xHitachi 160GB 7200RPM SATA (Raid 0)
All tests done at 1600x1200 and in game "Ultra High" settings. The windows settings for the OpenGL drivers were set to "balanced" and the AA settings were changed in game only. I ran each demo twice and then used the second score since the first one is always low due to texture loading slowdowns.
No AA - Cat4.7 = 47.7fps
No AA - Cat4.9 = 50.0fps
+2.3fps, +4.8%
2xAA - Cat4.7 = 39.1fps
2xAA - Cat4.9 = 42.4fps
+3.3fps, +8.4%
4xAA - Cat4.7 = 28.3fps
4xAA - Cat4.9 = 32.5fps
+4.2fps, +14.8%
So it appears that the biggest benefit will be seen by turning up AA, and considering that with the old drivers the game was fully playable on my system at 1600x1200xUltra, adding in 2xAA should probably still be playable (for me atleast, in this kind of game 40+ is usually fine, YMMV).
BTW, My system specs are:
MoBo -- ABIT KV8 Pro
CPU -- AMD 64 3000+ Newcastle @ 225mhz
Video Card -- ATI Radeon x800XT-Platinum Edition @ 537/558
RAM -- 1GB Kingston DDR PC-3200 (single stick)
Hdrive = 2xHitachi 160GB 7200RPM SATA (Raid 0)
shockwave85
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Cali3350 said:
Maybe for you, but I've NEVER had a problem with CoD in any Cat version.
MFZ said:Yeah it is doom 3.
So can you play d00m3, 1600x1200, 4xAA, Ultra Quality with your system? What is your system again?
lol this is driving me mad - so are we saying you CAN play on Ultra Quality 1600x1200, 4xAA just fine in Doom3 with the x800xt pe on a 3+Ghz/3000+, 1Gb system???
Blad3 said:
The problem here is the fluctuating concept of "playable". According to the [H] D3 guide, even with an FX-53 the XTPE was dipping down to 25fps at 16x12 in HIGH quality mode, much less ULTRA. Not to mention at the same settings the vanilla 6800 was getting a minimum framerate of about 28fps...and yes that's the $299 6800NU.
Blad3 said:
In my opinion if it dips below 30fps, that's not playable. Cuz when's it gonna dip? When there's a whole bunch of things trying to kill you...and when is the time you want the smoothest framerate possible? When there's a whole bunch of things trying to kill you.
According to the [H] D3 guide, the XTPE cannot stay above 25fps in high quality mode without ANY AA...and magically with a slower processor someone is running in Ultra mode with 4xaa and it's playable? What do you think?
Blad3 said:With your system you can play Doom3 at 1600x1200 Ultra Quality 4xaa??? What???
*takes medication for ati vs nvidia anxiety...*
On my system I have already played 4 or 5 levels of the game at 1600x1200xnoAAxUltra Quality. I just got the new drivers and, although I haven't actually played with 2xAA I believe I will be comfortable playing with that setting based on the FPS amounts I am getting while benchmarking.
I can NOT play at 1600x1200x4AAxUltra Quality on my PC, but I am pretty sure that a 6800Ultra could with an even more powerful processor than I have.
There is an issue on all current videocards with using the "ultra setting" though. As the benchmark report here on [H] mentions, Ultra settings require more than 256mb of RAM on your videocard to load up all the textures for an entire level. So when I am playing on "ultra" and I enter a room with a large number of new textures that the system has to suddenly swap in I will drop to about 5fps for 1 to 2 seconds. So far this has been a non-issue because I have never been in combat at the same time this has happened. It may be an issue some day, but if it is I can go back to my last save and then the next time I go in the room the textures will already be loaded and I won't get any slowdown.
(BTW, this texture size issue is the only real issue with Ultra settings for anyone with a high end GPU).
arentol said:
Very interesting.
With the "XTPE/UQ/16x12...", you said you thought you could play with 2xaa as well, so it wasn't too much of an exsaggeration, it was just to confirm what you meant exactly...
People with faster machines' than your's probably can play with 4xAA plus everything else on a XTPE, that would be a logcial guess from what you're saying/implying...
Doom3 locked up for me with 4.7s, well not locked up, just booted to desktop. I couldn't even make it out of the intro scene with the grid of the spaceship coming into orbit. I tried it on both 640x800 and 1024x768 <--(what i run all my games on). Running a 9500 np, stock, on 2500+ @ 200x10.
I installed the 4.9 betas and it hasn't crashed yet, 1024x768... but I've only walked around for about 10 minutes. I also changed the cacheMegs setting to 128. Looks nice and the 4.9s seemed to have made the difference.
I installed the 4.9 betas and it hasn't crashed yet, 1024x768... but I've only walked around for about 10 minutes. I also changed the cacheMegs setting to 128. Looks nice and the 4.9s seemed to have made the difference.
Blad3 said:
I am sure they could if they were happy with 40'ish FPS average. They would need a 4ghz/3900+ CPU, and their x800XT-PE overclocked to about 560/575 or maybe even higher (Mine will do that when the ambient temp is low, too hot this summer though).
Personally I am hoping that there will be a patch with 3Dc support. That should basically allow x800 users to run the game at high quality speeds with essentially Ultra quality visuals.
In all honesty though, the game looks fantastic at 1024x768xHigh quality with no AA, so anything your system can get you beyond that is pure cake.
I just downloaded these and installed them and they made my fps much worse for some reason My 1024x768 high detail went from 31 fps with the omega 3.7's to 24 fps with the cat 3.9b. I reinstalled the omega 3.7's and my framerates went right back up. Anyone know why this would happen?
My 1024x768 high detail went from 31 fps with the omega 3.7's to 24 fps with the cat 3.9b. I reinstalled the omega 3.7's and my framerates went right back up. Anyone know why this would happen?