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overlord20

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Would a single gtx460 1gb model be faster then 2x gtx260 c216 in SLI? I would eventually go SLI with the 460 as well. Problem is I don't know if I can buy both at once...

Also the 465 is $10 more then the 460. What is the performance gain for that $10? Is it worth the extra money? No need for the superclocked edition as I can oc myself.
 
Short answer, no the 460 alone will not be faster than the 2x260s. Another short answer, the 460 is actually faster once overclocked a substantial amount than the 465. Gotta love NV naming schemes...
 
SLI 260 would be substantially faster than a single 460. SLI 260 is very close in performance to the GTX 295, so using that you can compare with the anandtech benchmarks
 
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overlord20 said:
Also the 465 is $10 more then the 460. What is the performance gain for that $10? Is it worth the extra money? No need for the superclocked edition as I can oc myself.
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I'd pay $30 more for the 460 over the 465. The 465 sucks, avoid like the plague
 
Kaos_Drem said:
Short answer, no the 460 alone will not be faster than the 2x260s. Another short answer, the 460 is actually faster once overclocked a substantial amount than the 465. Gotta love NV naming schemes...
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Nvidia name scheme is right with the performance level.

465 has much more SP and much powerful for CUDA, physx etc and probably costs Nvidia more to make since it's a bigger chip... while 460 has more texture fillrate.

Performance might be close now but the 465 would be faster in the future depending if more shader demanding games arise. Still 465 is still faster for CUDA. There are many apps that use Nvidia shader performance. Games however is a different story. More fillrate and bandwidth makes much more dramatic impact.
 
MrXROK said:
465 has much more SP and much powerful for CUDA, physx etc
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Not really.

GTX 465 has 352 SPs, the GTX 460 has 336 SPs - not a huge difference. The GTX 460 can also hit *much* higher clock speeds (and it's stock clocks are higher), meaning its CUDA, PhysX, shader, etc... performance will blow right past the 465 without breaking a sweat.

Also, the 460 has had some architectural tweaks, they aren't the same shaders as the GTX 465's, and according to Anandtech should be faster clock-for-clock.

So no, the GTX 465 is not named correctly, and Nvidia's naming is not in line with performance.
 
i didn't think so.. I want a next gen card/cards. Would any of you recommend SLI 460's 1gb vs a single 480? No plans to do NV Surround. or Even a 470? with a future SLI?
 
vjcsmoke said:
No it's not. 275 SLI is nearly identical though because those are the gpus used in the 295.
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Do a little research some because proclaiming someone is wrong maybe. Here are some benchmarks comparing the 295 and 260 SLI

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2708

And that was with 192 core 260s while the OP has 216s. From the conclusion:

When it comes to how the GTX 295 stacks up against NVIDIA's current line up, it's closer to a single card GTX 260 SLI than anything else. Putting two GTX 260 core 216 cards in SLI will get a little closer, but since the 295 will still have an advantage in shader power we can't expect the gap to disappear. Those who already have a GTX 260 or two will not really be interested in the GTX 295 as an upgrade option, as GTX 260 SLI is very much close enough to GTX 295 performance.
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GTX 275 SLI would be better since they are clocked faster than the GPUs on a 295 even though they use the same chips.
 
obs said:
Do a little research some because proclaiming someone is wrong maybe. Here are some benchmarks comparing the 295 and 260 SLI

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2708

And that was with 192 core 260s while the OP has 216s. From the conclusion:



GTX 275 SLI would be better since they are clocked faster than the GPUs on a 295 even though they use the same chips.
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Thanks for that as I couldn't find it. So any ideas? I am thinking since I can't go 40 SLI right away I will just wait until i can get a 480. Then i will be able to SLI in the future.
 
overlord20 said:
i didn't think so.. I want a next gen card/cards. Would any of you recommend SLI 460's 1gb vs a single 480? No plans to do NV Surround. or Even a 470? with a future SLI?
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Yes, 460 SLI is better in everything over a single 480. In some games substantially better. 480 however would use about 30-40 watts less power under load. Shouldn't be an issue if you're already running 260 SLI though.
 
overlord20 said:
Thanks for that as I couldn't find it. So any ideas? I am thinking since I can't go 40 SLI right away I will just wait until i can get a 480. Then i will be able to SLI in the future.
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460 SLI is about the same price as a 480. What is preventing you?

Also, you would need to upgrade your PSU before moving to 480 SLI.
 
Currently I am would have to sell the GTX 260's to get the 460. But I would want to go SLI of course. Basically money is stopping me from getting a single 480 or SLI 460's right now.

Been wanting a modular PSU So I was thinking a Corsair 1000 Watt Modular which should be enough for SLI 480's if I go that route.
 
Kaos_Drem said:
Another short answer, the 460 is actually faster once overclocked a substantial amount than the 465. Gotta love NV naming schemes...
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LOL Nvidia's marketing department is retarded, but... not sure you can fault them for this one. Intels i920 is actually faster once overclocked a substantial amount than the i930. Gotta love Intel's naming schemes. ;) But yeah 465 blows, its the junk bin for broken gf100 chips that won't work in 470/480.
 
kllrnohj said:
So no, the GTX 465 is not named correctly, and Nvidia's naming is not in line with performance.
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Maybe they are naming these cards according to their 64-bit performance?
GTX 465's 64-bit performance is 1/8 from it's 32-bit and GTX 460's 1/12.

GTX 460 32-bit: 907 GFLOP
GTX 465 32-bit: 855 GFLOP

GTX 460 64-bit: 75.5 GFLOP
GTX 465 64-bit: 106.9GFLOP

Obviously this is not something that average user would care since 64-bit calculations are used in the field of science. GF104's architecture move is very good for Geforce cards, bad for Tesla's. Basically dual GTX 460 would still be only as good as GTX 470 in this field.
 
Well this thread makes me feel better. I was going to have to consider buying a 2nd GTX260 or just getting something newer when I built my new system this Winter.
 
Niceone said:
Maybe they are naming these cards according to their 64-bit performance?
GTX 465's 64-bit performance is 1/8 from it's 32-bit and GTX 460's 1/12.

GTX 460 32-bit: 907 GFLOP
GTX 465 32-bit: 855 GFLOP

GTX 460 64-bit: 75.5 GFLOP
GTX 465 64-bit: 106.9GFLOP

Obviously this is not something that average user would care since 64-bit calculations are used in the field of science. GF104's architecture move is very good for Geforce cards, bad for Tesla's. Basically dual GTX 460 would still be only as good as GTX 470 in this field.
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Doesn't help me. lol...

Sigh* I think I am going to go SLI 460's after all. And if I ever decide to do NV Surround I could.
 
kllrnohj said:
Not really.

GTX 465 has 352 SPs, the GTX 460 has 336 SPs - not a huge difference. The GTX 460 can also hit *much* higher clock speeds (and it's stock clocks are higher), meaning its CUDA, PhysX, shader, etc... performance will blow right past the 465 without breaking a sweat.
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Overclocking should be taken with a grain of salt. Why? 1 card could overclock to 20% more while another can't. That's a fact.

460 is the better bargain definitely but when it starts to peak over $200 not so much. Under $200 it's a good deal.


Also, the 460 has had some architectural tweaks, they aren't the same shaders as the GTX 465's, and according to Anandtech should be faster clock-for-clock.

So no, the GTX 465 is not named correctly, and Nvidia's naming is not in line with performance.
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What architectural tweaks? If you mean GF100 can do 4 triangles per clock while GF104 can do 2 triangles per clock. So much for architectural tweaks. 465 is the superior card no matter how you look at it even though it's pretty much neck and neck in games with 460 for now.
 
MrXROK said:
Overclocking should be taken with a grain of salt. Why? 1 card could overclock to 20% more while another can't. That's a fact.
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True, but the GTX 460 still has higher stock clocks.

What architectural tweaks? If you mean GF100 can do 4 triangles per clock while GF104 can do 2 triangles per clock. So much for architectural tweaks.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/2

465 is the superior card no matter how you look at it even though it's pretty much neck and neck in games with 460 for now.
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Not even close to true. As somebody else already pointed out, the GTX 460 is *faster* in raw number-crunching power:

GTX 460 32-bit: 907 GFLOP
GTX 465 32-bit: 855 GFLOP
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So the GTX 460 uses less power, is quieter, has more shader power, the 1gb has more memory bandwidth, and it has a higher texture fill rate. So, yeah, basically the exact opposite of what you said is true.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=632&card2=631

Yup, GTX 460 has across the board better specs.
 
Go with the current technology.

Buy a GTX 460, now. Buy another GTX 460 when your budget allows. (Or use NewEgg or TigerDirect's 0% financing and get what you want NOW)
 
Probably need a job to get 0% financing... :p As I do not have one lol. Hopefully will have one soon though. Seems like going 460 SLI vs single 480 just takes up more room. Unless you think the power of 460 SLI will be able to max games for the next 2 years at 1920x1200.
 
overlord20 said:
Probably need a job to get 0% financing... :p As I do not have one lol. Hopefully will have one soon though. Seems like going 460 SLI vs single 480 just takes up more room. Unless you think the power of 460 SLI will be able to max games for the next 2 years at 1920x1200.
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SLI GTX 460's are better than GTX 480 is the vast majority of games.

And yes, GTX 460's will easily drive 1920x1200 for a long time to come.
 
I think that is the option I choose :D. Just in case I want to go NV Surround sometime I can.. Right now I have a lousy monitor but POWER ALWAYS COMES FIRST :D.
 
overlord20 said:
Would a single gtx460 1gb model be faster then 2x gtx260 c216 in SLI? I would eventually go SLI with the 460 as well. Problem is I don't know if I can buy both at once...

Also the 465 is $10 more then the 460. What is the performance gain for that $10? Is it worth the extra money? No need for the superclocked edition as I can oc myself.
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460 uses less power, creates less heat and is quieter than a 465, even overclocked. It has DX11 which the 260's don't have, assuming you're going to hang onto it long enough for DX11 titles to hit shelves. Think it's a pretty easy decision if you have the funds right now. If you're willing to wait I'd wager ATi is going to reduce the 5850's price soon to complicate matters, unless SLI is a deciding factor...
 
IRSmurf said:
Go with the current technology.

Buy a GTX 460, now. Buy another GTX 460 when your budget allows. (Or use NewEgg or TigerDirect's 0% financing and get what you want NOW)
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Taking out SLI 260s and putting in a 460 is a downgrade, why would you ever do that?
 
man I'm so torn. I've got 3 options.
1) Keep my GTX 260 and do nothing
2) Sell my GTX 260 and buy a GTX 460 (and hope for a 460 SLI down the road)
3) Keep my GTX 260 and buy a 2nd GTX 260 @ $100-$125 for SLI

that 15% BCB from TD is looking so tempting
 
Sell your 260 and get the 460. The SLI down the road thing is only for cards that have a major price drop in the future and those are mostly the higher end like the 280, where it might be more cost effective to get a second. Down the road SLI is not something for low to mid range cards, with low to mid range you get SLI out of the starting gate when it is cheaper and yields more performance then 1 higher end card.
 
Interesting indeed. For the 768MB at least, Surround performance will be terrible. But 19x12 or lower is solid.
 
I have 2x 260's in SLI gonna wait until my i7 build to decide whether I'll sell them and pay the difference for 2x 460's. However after all the reviews for the 1GB it's looking like something I'd be very tempted into doing.
 
Instead of possibly buying one 460 then going SLI later..why not just go for a fast single card solution? SLI is an inefficient power hog. I still detect microstuttering in multicard setups (i know some people think i'm crazy). Single card solution would give you the best bang for buck most likely as well.
 
raymondbeautrix said:
Instead of possibly buying one 460 then going SLI later..why not just go for a fast single card solution?
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If you know you are NEVER going to buy SLI GTX 480's, go with SLI GTX 460's.

If you think you may one day buy another GTX 480, go with the GTX 480, now, instead.

One is a $400 solution. The other is a $1,000 solution. I don't know your financial situation, but this should be a very easy call for the OP. He either has $400 for an upgrade or $1,000.
 
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