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does someone know if ati will be fixing an issue with the 2d flcker with dual monitor setup and enabling overdrive, when I disable overdrive the issue is gone because the clocks go back up to 400 as required for dual monitor setup, but when I enable overdrive the clocks go down to 157 on the core and thats when the flickering starts.
x2! That's my same exact problem to the letter. With 10.2 I would get the GSOD, with 10.3 I was getting the BlackSOD.
Also 120MHZ refresh rate is very flaky on the 5870 & 5770.
did you contact XFX? when i did they told me to try a couple of troubleshooting solutions and said if those didnt work i could RMA it
Since he's been in contact with AMD, you'd think AMD would get XFX to RMA, or AMD would just RMA it themselves?
I still have black screen of death issues with my 5870 about every 48 hours now. GSODs were gone with 10.2, but black SODs are now more common than ever with 10.3...
i think the 10.3s made my black screens worse... I could go almost a week, now I can't go 48 hours...
Since the drivers have all had some effect pro or con on my death screens, mine still appears to be a driver problem...
If I finally come to conclusion I'd best just RMA it, and can't get XFX or AMD to do so, my last resort will just be to never buy an AMD product again...
Hey Tolyngee, I'm just curious, what motherboard do you have?
I've found this to be about similar in my experience: HL2, ETW, HoI3, Cellblock Squadron, M&B all crashed at some point w/ the black screen (which window's error says is a blue screen when I look at the details). But I ran Gratuitous Space Battles (intensive 2d) for 3 hours, no problems before I quit the game to go to sleep.I watercooled my 5970 which would constantly GSOD within 2 to 5 mins of playing any 3d game eyefiinty or not. No issues with desktop or 2d use. I thought it could be a cold bug.
So here it is, a month later, and I'm still having the very same issues with this ATI 5870 as I was having three to four months ago. Kyle contacted AMD, AMD contacted me, AMD contacted ATI, ATI contacted me, and they just tried more troubleshooting. No replacement card, nothing. ...and here I am, still stuck with this POS 5870 from a wretched company called XFX. I will NEVER buy XFX again, and I recommend everyone else stay away from them as well. $440 paperweight... right here. I wish I knew a good lawyer that dealt with this type of stuff. It crashes in this PC constantly, and won't it work in my other gaming system at all. I tried it in my mom's computer and it crashes just like it does in mine.
If there were a fix, that'd be perfect, but it seems that there isn't. I've heard some people just RMA the card in hopes of getting one that doesn't have issues? If this is the case, I think I just have to pay for return shipping which should be less than $10. Just kinda sucks that this happens, and never figured I'd have all of these grey screen issues that I read about since so many other people/reviews keep praising these cards.
Any thoughts/ideas?
Thanks!
I suppose it could be a PSU issue.
I'm using a new XFX 650W XXX power supply that was on the HotDeals forum about 2 weeks ago. I was under the impression that 650W should be plenty for a single card 5870. I could use the PS from one of my other systems, but it is only a 550W Antec Neo Power.
Maybe I plugged in the power to the card wrong? The PSU comes with 2x 6pin PCIe connectors and 2x 6/8pin PCIe connectors built in. It also has 2 additional slots for modular 6/8 pin PCIe connectors. I just used the 2 built in 6pin to reduce cabling. Does it matter which ones I plug these into?
As to the higher voltage on the memory, I suppose I could try that as well, or maybe set the timings down a bit.
Ugh.
System recently lasted two weeks without problems (only two weeks as I had to turn it off for other reasons...), and hadn't ever had a problem gaming...
But started playing TDU over the weekend...
This morning, card starts out at 875 (clocks), goes down to 600, then down to 400... 100% GPU usage being reported, so no reason to underclock itself... And framerate was definitely suffering due to this...
But then... BAM! GSOD!
Considering the fact that I'm four hours (not straight hours though...) into TDU (the game keeps track), I'd like to know WTF's up! I was at most 10 minutes into my current gaming session...
Yesterday I played almost three hours straight... No problems...
Load up GPU-Z, play games in a window, and tell us what your VRM temps are. 1st reason I can think of why the card would start underclocking itself is overheating VRMs.
You'd think the fan would go above ~60% then...
I did find it odd that the fan would jump up in speed when I alt-tabbed out of then game to the desktop to look at a jpeg of a TDU map...
So: At the desktop, fan will go to 100% (or wherever it needs to go), but inside the game the fan will slow back down to ~60%.
I was starting to think I was hearing things, but MSI Afterburner showed that what I thought I was hearing was exactly what I was hearing...
FWIW: Doom3 seems to cause my card to work backwards: my temps are higher at the desktop (with the fan running harder, too...) than inside the game, where my temps go down, and the fan slows down...
The only oddity today was the GSOD... the other oddities are the norm... My card runs cooler when it's gaming... (and again, it's not due to the fan, as the fan slows down inside a game than when at the desktop...)
But to clarify... My fan will run at 100% if I alt-tab out of a game to the desktop... It's the only way it seems to be able to do it, though... So, if it's overheating, it's only when it goes to the desktop that it realizes it...
And again: yesterday it worked this way for three straight hours without issue, and another hour overnight... Early this morning it couldn't last 10 min tho...
Maybe I should just RMA my card... It's always acted like powerplay's working backwards... Running cooler when gaming than when at the desktop doing nothing...
Fan speed operation has nothing to do with VRM temperatures, they are not connected. Fan speed is connected to the core temp, not the VRM temps directly. VRM temps change very rapidly and there isn't enough time for their temperature changes to really register in the primary heatsink. On many non-reference cards, the VRMs are even a separate heatsink altogether.
If you think the fan is the issue, just setup a hotkey profile for fan on 20% and fan on 100% so you can just turn on the fan with a few keystrokes. For example, I turn my fan to 100% by hitting, CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-Z
I finally figured out my 5870 issues...
Long story short, my Core Voltage was set wrong... Don't know how... Somehow it was at 1349, when it needed to be at 1350...
Now, I didn't set it at 1349, but for some reason it was there... And now that I've used MSI Afterburner to set it to 1350, I can't seem to find a way to force it to 1349 again... If I use MSIA to set it to 1349, when I hit "Apply", it goes right back to 1350...
So I don't believe I caused this, even accidentally...
But with it at 1349, the core voltage when gaming would go to 1.265, not 1.350 or 1.349...
Core Voltage at 1.265 apparently has a very drastic effect:
GSODs
fan doesn't work properly
PowerPlay completely freaks out
In gaming, when the CV would go to 1.265, the fan couldn't stay at 100% more than a few minutes... The fan would slow (even on auto), and the temps would quickly rise... This behavior was so bad that both MSIA and CCC were reporting that sometimes my fan was at 0% (yes, that is ZERO PERCENT!)
The fan would completely stop.
Alt-tab to desktop, fan immediately jumps to 100%... Alt-tab back to game, within seconds the fan would slow... and slow... sometimes again, to a stop...
Since you can't have the fan completely stopping, I now knew something was terribly wrong... But since alt-tabbing out of the game would put the fan speed immediately at 100%, it obviously wasn't a hardware or fan issue...
Now TDU's butter-smooth at 70+ fps... (2560x1600)
Doom3 (which a few months ago was sometimes a slideshow, and I thought it was just PP going nuts...) tested it at what was previously the worst spots on my 5870... Butter-smooth 60 FPS (game is capped at 60... beats the ~13FPS I had been seeing...)
So, if your card it absolutely freaking out on you, check all of the settings for everything...
Like I said, I don't believe I even accidentally put the CV at 1349, and the fact I can't seem to force it back to 1349 seems to say I'm correct...
I'd really like to know how it got there, and how long it's been like that... I bought a ton of games during the Steam holiday sale, and those games ran fine... So, 9.12 didn't do this... But by 10.1 or 10.2 this setting was off...
(I'd also like to note I played Portal in March without ever an issue... Only game during that time to never experience an issue, though... No idea why Portal's special...)