64gb of memory---which one?

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I'm planning on AE CS6 and Premiere Pro CS6 build with tentative motherboard and i7 3930k, which will be fully utilized with the upcoming Blacmagic cinema camera.

I'm going to go for a motherboard with 8 slots and want to fill them with 8 sticks of 8gb modules.
I have a 10% discount at amazon so that's what these prices reflect.


1)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W1333UB8GV
-$5 coupon for each stick so
$35 sticks each x 8
= $280

2)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W1333UB8G9
-$5 coupon for each stick
$39 each x 8 for total of
=$312

3)
http://www.amazon.com/Komputerbay-P...f=sr_1_14?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1338439733&sr=1-14

x2 for total of $286.2


I'm leaning towards option 3 though I have not heard of the brand before?
I'm thinking of just getting the supertalent and then OC the memory to 1600?
 
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#1 and #2 are completely identical aside from the heat spreaders. Likely to even use same PCB and chips. Don't count on overclocking, though- they're both somewhat "Value" series, which probably are scavenges from attempts at higher speed bins; good company, but not their higher-end line. And never heard of the brand in #3 either.
 
My wifes PCis using Komputerbay ram. Its Elpidia. It does well enough stock, but doesn't like being OCed. However, as its the fastest stock ram you have there, I'd go with it. 1600mhz is the sweet spot for SB.
 
You should get DDR3-1600 sticks. Otherwise, you are not tapping your X79's full potential
 
That's what I've heard, and i guess the value shouldn't be expected to OC that well
 
I got 32GB for my X79+3930K and went with this, which is working well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231480

If I were getting 64GB I'd probably do

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231513

since that would work well with the Asus RIVE MB, it's decently priced (more than your choices though), and DDR3-1600 / CAS 9 which is pretty good (you can do better but prices go way up). I don't see any low voltage options in 8GB sticks. There are quite a few other brands which I'd feel comfortable with (e.g. Patriot, GeIL, Corsair, Mushkin). Anyway, just my thoughts.
 
I wouldn't get any of those.

Stick with G.Skill, Mushkin, Corsair, Patriot, Samsung, etc
 
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hmm i'll see how much extra I can spare haha
the rest of my build is

corsair 650d
thinking noctua dh14
64gb
corsair ax750
and asus sabertooth
 
Some good choices there. I went with the Rampage IV Extreme, the G.Skill memory linked above, Seasonic X-750, Corsair H100 (with extra set of fans), and a HAF XM case. I don't think the RIVE is buying me much over the Sabertooth given that I'm not pushing the overclock at all, but it's a nice MB. The cooler is OK, but man the 3930K puts out heat when all 12 threads are going full bore (2.80v, 4.2GHz). I debated one of the Corsair cases, or a Silverstone. The HAF was relatively inexpensive and has plenty of room for the slightly oversized motherboard.
 
do you recommend something cheaper?
the generic intel would be about $205 for me and it seems to be good?
 
64GB of non-registered memory for a serious CS6 workstation is asking for trouble. That much memory without a buffer is just insane.
 
TCM said:
64GB of non-registered memory for a serious CS6 workstation is asking for trouble. That much memory without a buffer is just insane.
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I disagree. ECC would be more important for reliability but even that is not a big deal if you verify that your ram is not bad. Registered memory is more for having larger modules.
 
I'm not the expert per se, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_memory agrees that registered is better with many modules, not just larger modules.

And even if your RAM verifies OK, you are bound to have the occasional bit flip. It's just a given. And if this is not just some toy CS6 setup, the occasional bit flip will get saved through many steps of processing and mixed with other bit flips.
 
you are bound to have the occasional bit flip.
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I highly disagree with that statement. You will only experience a bit flip if you have bad memory or even more unlikely get hit with a cosmic ray. The 100+ TB of data I checksum every single month at work on machines without ECC along with the scientific calculations that I run multiple times says that it is highly unlikely for that to occur or at least I do not see a single bit flip per several thousand TB of data transferred.

agrees that registered is better with many modules, not just larger modules.
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Yes and no. Yes with registered DDR3 you can have 3 DIMMS per channel instead of 2 if you go down to DDR3 1066 or lower however over that speed the limit is 2 as well so Registered ram does not buy you any extra slots.
 
I read that it's recommended for 1.5v at 64gb
The ones I find are usually almost 1.5
Is that ok? And if I only plan on oc my i7 to 4.2 do I really need lower timing memory?
 
imo if you are going over 4-8gb of memory for any period of time doing anything serious, you need or want ECC. the smart people in the industry never intended on us going so deep without ECC. I had ECC in my desktop 10 years ago. when vista came out, smart people at microsoft released documentation recommending everybody have ECC to prevent problems.

but ECC costs extra for an imperceptible difference, and industry doesn't like that sort of thing, and neither do people. so it has never become common.

that said, every serious server uses ECC, and serious servers are the most serious of computers. so if you're serious about your computer, you'll do what the servers do.

memory error probability worsens with time. the longer you own memory modules, the more valuable their ECC function becomes. paying $100 for 8gb ECC today is not too much for anyone IMO.
 
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imo if you are going over 4-8gb of memory for any period of time doing anything serious, you need or want ECC. the smart people in the industry never intended on us going so deep without ECC. I had ECC in my desktop 10 years ago. when vista came out, smart people at microsoft released documentation recommending everybody have ECC to prevent problems.

but ECC costs extra for an imperceptible difference, and industry doesn't like that sort of thing, and neither do people. so it has never become common.

that said, every serious server uses ECC, and serious servers are the most serious of computers. so if you're serious about your computer, you'll do what the servers do.

memory error probability worsens with time. the longer you own memory modules, the more valuable their ECC function becomes. paying $100 for 8gb ECC today is not too much for anyone IMO.
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I agree with you, however Intel seems to have gimped their consumer chips a bit by leaving out ECC support. Only Xeon chips fully support ECC.

Edit to add:
Here's a link to another thread about ecc ram on the x79 platform:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1651825
 
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pwrusr said:
I agree with you, however Intel seems to have gimped their consumer chips a bit by leaving out ECC support. Only Xeon chips fully support ECC.

Edit to add:
Here's a link to another thread about ecc ram on the x79 platform:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1651825
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yep, and the xeon chips are similar in price to the regular chips. e5-1620 is 8 thread sandy bridge and e3-1245v2 / 1275v2 is 8 thread ivy bridge. both have limited overclocking which peaks right around the normal max overclock of the chip anyway. both can do 4.4ghz/4.5ghz, support everything else the i7 chips support, and support ECC
 
bAMtan2 said:
e3-1245v2 / 1275v2 is 8 thread ivy bridge. both have limited overclocking which peaks right around the normal max overclock of the chip anyway. both can do 4.4ghz/4.5ghz, support everything else the i7 chips support, and support ECC
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How do you figure??
 
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