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Are you surprised?is it just me or is the 4870 between a 260 and 280 in most games?
is it just me or is the 4870 between a 260 and 280 in most games?
This was in their GT200 review as well.this review doesnt make sense, 8800 GT sli is better than an GTX 280? what!?
this review doesnt make sense, 8800 GT sli is better than an GTX 280? what!?
and a 9800 GX2 apparently gets FIVE more fps than the GTX280? give me a break...
Where have you been? Why do you think so many people think the GTX280 isn't worth $650? Becuase it can be beat by existing cards (or 2) for less! Go do some research before calling BS. The 9800GX2 for example beats the 280 more often than now, for $200 less.
and a 9800 GX2 apparently gets FIVE more fps than the GTX280? give me a break...
nVidia chipset requirement for SLibut with 8800GTs going for so cheap now, why the fuck would anyone buy anything else?
yeah the GTX280 is a waste of money, i agree
but with 8800GTs going for so cheap now, why the fuck would anyone buy anything else?
You know, I really love reading Anand's reviews. The first ten pages of this review were extremely interesting to read, and underscores how GPUs have become massively parallel CPUs with a few optimizations for graphics. It explains well why a 1.2 TFLOP card can be beaten by a card that barely breaks 900 GFLOPs. Whoever wrote those first ten pages seemed to really know what they're talking about.
The rest was really depressing - just pages and pages of graphs with no context whatsoever besides screen resolution and level of AA. Anand, or someone who works with him, REALLY seems to understand Computer Engineering, but fails at actually conveying the benchmarks.
Well SLI isn't for everyone. For example, getting an nVidia chipset for me is not an option, so neither is SLI.
dude.... give me a break... do you understand video cards... or are u one of those guys that thinks " if its new then its gotta be faster"
the 9800x2 is faster than the gtx280 in alot of things
R E A D!!!!
why? i dont know the limitations of nvidia chipsets or the pros of others
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ3NSwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
i guess this confirms it, the 8800 GT SLI is the same as a 9800 GX2, and a 9800 GX2 is better than a gtx 280, so why the fuck do most people care about ANYTHING besides 8800gt SLI?
(besides the people who cant use nvidia chipsets)
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ3NSwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
i guess this confirms it, the 8800 GT SLI is the same as a 9800 GX2, and a 9800 GX2 is better than a gtx 280, so why the fuck do most people care about ANYTHING besides 8800gt SLI?
(besides the people who cant use nvidia chipsets)
Generally they are not as stable or reliable as their Intel counterparts. They consume more power and usually run a lot hotter. They also have a bad habit of frying memory sticks from time to time.
This might interest you. Looks like some of the rumors were trueThough I hope that ATI can avoid some of the pitfalls of multi-GPU solutions with it.
The Anandtech Review said:The CrossFire Sideport
Although AMD isn't talking about it now, the CrossFire Sideport is a new feature of the RV770 architecture that isn't in use on the RV770 at all. In future, single-card, multi-GPU solutions (*cough* R700) this interface will be used to communicate between adjacent GPUs - in theory allowing for better scaling with CrossFire. We'll be able to test this shortly as AMD is quickly readying its dual-GPU RV770 card under the R700 codename.
Well, for everyone saying the 9800 GX2 owns the GTX 280, this hard ocp review says directly to the contrary:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUxOCw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
so whats up with that?
It could be worse I suppose. Imagine trying to verify their findings if they just chose settings arbitrarily and played through the game! Oh wait...
Come on guys and crank that review out! I don't want to see just max FPS, but whats the average is for each game played. As Dan pointed out, the graphs make it look as if the GX2 is a better gaming experience than the GTX 280 based the graphs presented.
Plus, no MMO's were used at Anandtech? No WoW, LotRO, AoC? I've been spoiled by the Enthusiast's reviews here. Bring on the review.
The real question is which Frys?
Again, read my post above. No matter what anyone tells me the 9800GX2 is the inferior card when compared to the Geforce GTX 280. The frame rates of the 9800GX2 may look good on paper but in reality they are horribly inconsistent. The gameplay is no where near as smooth as it is on the Geforce GTX 280. The difference is huge. Time demos and benchmarks won't show that difference between the two but try actually playing games on them and the difference will be readily apparent. Another problem with the Geforce 9800GX2 is that its' AA performance is not the best. They also take a bit of a hit at 2560x1600. They just don't have the memory bandwidth nor the amount of memory you really need to get the job done. The 9800GX2 was in some ways a step back from the previous 8800GTX/Ultra cards as a result. I got far better results in CoD4 with AA and AF enabled at 2560x1600 on my dual 8800GTX SLI setup than I got on my 9800GX2 Quad-SLI setup. 256bit memory interface and only 512MB of RAM per GPU just didn't get the job done. Had NVIDIA created the 9800GX2 as a 768MB per GPU part and if they had given it a 384bit bus like the 8800GTX had it would have been a monster.