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http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de...uct_info.php?cPath=7_177_178&products_id=1805

Can't read German worth a crap (can pick out a couple of words, that's about it) and Babelfish's attempt at translating it wasn't much better either, but here are some of the stuff I think I managed to pick out:

1) USB interface - no Aquaero required to change pump parameters
2) Max head pressure now 4.2m (Don't know if this is at the 72Hz setting or not, or if this pump even has a 72Hz setting :p)
3) Tach signal thingy to the mobo (like the DDC-2) so the PC can shut off when the pump goes *pop*
4) Temp sensor built into the pump (?)
5) There's no 3.5" bay panel thing anymore, the 12VDC-9VAC conversion circuit appears to be built into the pump.
6) In addition, there are three fan headers on the pump itself

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I'm going to stop with my pathetic attempt to decypher the German now, I'll leave it up to you guys.

Definitely going to buy one when I get the chance though :)
 
Life could be so easy: just use the english translation.

The 4.2 meters were meassured somewhere around 80Hz. The pump can be adjusted to a maximum of 100Hz but it is very unlikely that one will ever reach that setting at a stable state. It seems that the time for serious pump overclocking has come *g*
"Hey my ASXT goes up to 93Hz" - "I don't believe you, screenie pls" - LOL :D

To 4.) There are two sensors integrated into the pump: one for the water and the other for the output stage of the fan connector.

To 5.) Yupp, everything is integrated into the pump.

To 6.) Right, there are three fan headers but only one of them is for fans. The one in the middle is for the rpm signal and the last can be used for a flow sensor OR as an aquabus connection (e.g. for aquaero).
 
I just recieved my DoubleImpact so I guess I will wait for ASXT before I take every thing apart! Thanks for the post. I havent been keeping up with the new gear.
Shoggy, what is the difference between the Ultra and the Advanced?
 
theseeker said:
Shoggy, what is the difference between the Ultra and the Advanced?
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The ultra has the following features which the advanced version does not have:

- external temperature sensor
- internal water temperature sensor
- temperature controlled fan output
- connector for a flow sensor

Well, the hardware of all three versions is exactly the same but the firmware and the keys regulate which features are available and which not. You can always upgrade to the advanced or ultra version by purchasing a key.

And don't think you will find a keygen in the future: the keys do not follow any algorithm or logic and so they can not be calculated. Every pump has its own keys so you also can not use the keys of other users :p
 
Nice. Its a good thing to not need an Aquearo for good functionality. Does this pump utilize Aquasuite software?

We need another Aqua Computer thread.
 
Shoggy said:
Yes, just have a look on the screenshots:

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The software will be also available in english ;)
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Even in German, 58.27l/h is around 0.25gpm :eek:. Now, that's only at 69Hz, but what will it ship at? And a PQ curve would be greatly appreciated, because unless that's pumping through 10 Cuplex DIs, that's a little worrisome. Any word on price either?

Now for a positive remark, that's a lot to integrate in a single pump.
 
ikellensbro said:
Even in German, 58.27l/h is around 0.25gpm :eek:. Now, that's only at 69Hz, but what will it ship at? And a PQ curve would be greatly appreciated, because unless that's pumping through 10 Cuplex DIs, that's a little worrisome. Any word on price either?

Now for a positive remark, that's a lot to integrate in a single pump.
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Yeah, I would like to know what the pump was pushing through on that screenshot. This pump would make a great "complimentary" pump to a dual loop configuration. I want one to cool my northbridge/southbride and hard drives :)
 
sweet pump! we will only have to wait like, 3 months for Sharkacomputers to get it in stock. :(
 
More power, arrrrr, arrr :D

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Only a simple test configuration:

• aquastream XT ultra
• airplex Pro 360 radiator
• aquatube
• flow rate sensor
• 6 elbow connectors
• one crazy Shoggy :cool:
 
Sweet pump :D I think I will buy one when Sharka gets them in stock. Is there any other pace to but them that is reasonably close to the USA?
 
You gotta admit that when it comes to software/hardware integration of water cooling equipment nobody beats AC. :p
 
Shoggy said:
A few more and new english screenshots:

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Is this flow with the new flow meter (5.56mm ID)? or the old flow meter? I recall seeing similar flow rates from those using teh stock Aquastream pump and Innovatek flow meters which have bigger ID's.
 
Shoggy said:
Yes, it is the new flow meter.
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Then why is the flow so low? A standard Aquastream (@ 72 Hz) and an Innovatek flow meter on 6mm tubing gets about the same flow rate.

How about a flow rating at say around 90 Hz?
 
@waterlogged: it would be necessary to test that in a real system because the higher the resistance, the higher the frequency can go. One person in a german forum already comapred the aquastream XT to a Laing pump and he said it is almost the same flow but the aquastream works clearly quieter.
 
*cough* Is there a PQ curve for this thing anwhere? Software screens are all well and good but it would be nice to get the industry standard performance graph as opposed to forum hearsay. *cough*
 
*cough* Uhh oh, there went the neighborhood. *cough*

Who cares about graphs if it does what it is supposed to do? Obviously AC doesn't care and these graphs ain't too popular here in Europe because it seems to only matter on a few BBS's. Why don't you get one and do us up a graph. :D
 
Shoggy said:
@waterlogged: it would be necessary to test that in a real system because the higher the resistance, the higher the frequency can go. One person in a german forum already compared the aquastream XT to a Laing pump and he said it is almost the same flow but the aquastream works clearly quieter.
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And I'm sure the Aquastream XT has one hell of a better failure rate than the DDC pumps! Can't seem to remember the last time an Eheim based pump went south, but it seems like everyday we heare about Laing pumps laying down and going to the big pump field in the sky. :D

Just looking at the specs I think that it comes very close (within spitting distance) to the DDC in terms of flow and head pressure if your into those kinds of things.
 
waterlogged said:
*cough* Uhh oh, there went the neighborhood. *cough*

Who cares about graphs if it does what it is supposed to do? Obviously AC doesn't care and these graphs ain't too popular here in Europe because it seems to only matter on a few BBS's. Why don't you get one and do us up a graph. :D
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You wouldn't buy a car if all you got were some pictures of the car, detailed shots of how the radio worked, and some dude saying "yea its kinda fast, it works for me" and cost 50% more than the car that told you everything about it. I don't buy a pump if I can't see exactly how it performs thank you very much.
 
waterlogged said:
*cough* Uhh oh, there went the neighborhood. *cough*

Who cares about graphs if it does what it is supposed to do? Obviously AC doesn't care and these graphs ain't too popular here in Europe because it seems to only matter on a few BBS's. Why don't you get one and do us up a graph. :D
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Funny how I get over 8 different private messages asking me if Waterlogged sounds like Top Nurse. ...
 
waterlogged said:
*cough* Uhh oh, there went the neighborhood. *cough*

Who cares about graphs if it does what it is supposed to do? Obviously AC doesn't care and these graphs ain't too popular here in Europe because it seems to only matter on a few BBS's. Why don't you get one and do us up a graph. :D
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Some people must have something to complain about....... Sharka is about to complete another large AC order that will include plenty of these pumps. I got two reserved for me graph or no graph ;)
 
@ 85Hz? Could the pump do more than that by upping the freq, or is it at it's max?
 
Interesting,,, the XT gave better temps with less flow than the Laing......
 
the XT was @87,5Hz :D http://freenet-homepage.de/derics/Aquastream/Aquasuite1.JPG

In my system the XT can be up to 89,5Hz.Theoretical the XT can be up to 100Hz, in a real system mostly about 85-90Hz. The temps with XT and Laing were roughly the same. The average Temps during the 2 hours of testing:


XT
Water before Rad: 31,50°
Water after Rad: 30,93°
Cpu: 41,86°
Diode: 38,14°
Flow: 97,62l/h

if u used pumpadapter with 1/4" the flow can be increased up to ~5-8l/h, i´ve used the new flowmeter with 5,6mm

Laing DDC 1T
Water before Rad: 31,51°
Water after Rad: 30,8°
Cpu: 42,14°
Diode: 37,86°
Flow: 103,39l/h

need an english lesson, hope u can understand it :D
 
Ranker said:
Funny how I get over 8 different private messages asking me if Waterlogged sounds like Top Nurse. ...
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Who is this Top Nurse that sounds like me? Is "Top" as in kinky sex or something? :eek:

So why are you getting all these PM's? Are you the head gossiper or holy crusader around here? :confused:
 
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