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Shane said:Just funny how ati totally blows away nvidia in half life... like by 40% faster lol oh well guess all the nerds are tradeing in the gt's for a xt hehe anyways just cracks me up.
Shane said:Just funny how ati totally blows away nvidia in half life2... like by 40% faster lol oh well guess all the nerds are tradeing in the gt's for a xt hehe anyways just cracks me up.
jg3 said:You must have been a kerry suporter..they will believe anything. ................
SocketA said:So far alot of Nvidia users have been reporting stuttering or game lock-ups.
Darten said:Are you referring to the ATi benchmarks of ATi cards vs nVidia cards in a game which ATi gave the developer $6 million?
Did people (nerds?) trade in their X800s for 6800s when Doom3 came out? Would they do it again for Half-Life 2?
Darten said:Are you referring to the ATi benchmarks of ATi cards vs nVidia cards in a game which ATi gave the developer $6 million?
Did people (nerds?) trade in their X800s for 6800s when Doom3 came out? Would they do it again for Half-Life 2?
jg3 said:You must have been a kerry suporter..they will believe anything. The cards will not be that far off. Fireingsquad benchmarks. . Personaly would not touch a ATI...Give me NVIDIA every time baby...Both sides will claim victory......Play and play hard
Since when was counterstrike halflife 2 ?
jg3 said:You must have been a kerry suporter..they will believe anything. The cards will not be that far off. Fireingsquad benchmarks. . Personaly would not touch a ATI...Give me NVIDIA every time baby...Both sides will claim victory......Play and play hard
Badger_sly said:LOL........ Good one.
Xilikon said:
Since both use the same 3d engine, the benchmarks is valid.
Usually, within the same engine, video cards should act the same no matter what game variancy. I agree each game might behave differently due to map size, AI and such but all of these should behave the same for all video cards.ohgod said:Half Life 2 and Counter Strike Source are different games, they only use the same engine
Half Life 2 has AI and probably larger maps so they are different, Just like saying Call of Duty and Quake 3 are the same jsut cause they use the same engine, when in reality systems can perform differently in both games. I guess saying "the benchmarks is valid" isnt entirely true.
Shane said:Just funny how ati totally blows away nvidia in half life2... like by 40% faster lol oh well guess all the nerds are tradeing in the gt's for a xt hehe anyways just cracks me up.
Your lack of understanding is hilarious.Xilikon said:Usually, within the same engine, video cards should act the same no matter what game variancy. I agree each game might behave differently due to map size, AI and such but all of these should behave the same for all video cards.
Example, if HL2 is a little heavier than CS, we can deduce 10 fps for all cards and you will still get a valid benchmark. The benchmark from Firingsquad showed that ATI and Nvidia behaved almost nose-to-nose in all cases so it should be the same with HL2. ATI PR material showed a very biaised benchmark and who tell you how they do this (he might try to run a X800 on a A64 4000 and a 6800GT on a P4 1.6 then show results).
Shane said:Since when was counterstrike halflife 2 ? lol I dont know what drugs you are on but I want some must be dam good. Oh and sorry I dont like Bush or Kerry Jerry but I vote for bush anyday if I could but you see Im stuck in this prison cell useing my guards laptop to reach the internet ... my release date is another 40 years because I murdered 8 nerds at a lan party that didnt know how to get the lan working. So if i could vote I would vote for Bush boy
Shane said:I'm only 13, I can't vote. But I'm still badass despite my age!
I'm a very sane person and i stand by my arguments. It would be fool to compare results of a game for a card against another result of another game with another game but Firingsquad showed results for a group of cards from both ATI and Nvidia and this showed a "trend", not expected results for HL2. Also, CPU power has a say in the results so it may also effect the results but should it should be uniform across any video card.Moloch said:Your lack of understanding is hilarious.
You ever think perhaps HL2 utilzies more of one feature, less of other features?
You cleary just have a nvidia agenda to attend to, as no sane person would directly compare diffrent games, even thought hey use the same engine, you cant just lower the frame rate
This is no different than the nvidia benchmarks, but now that ati does it, it's suddenly bad.
But I must say the original poster is a moron.
It's one thing to prefer a IHV, another to be a a !!!!!!.
I also get the stuttering when loading the new levels. It's more likely an engine problem that needs patching.corajr said:I think it is bad marketing and the wrong way for video card companys to pay off or influce game developers into making certain games better for their video cards. i can understan if video card A is better at opengl game wile video card B is better at DX9 games. but making a game preform like shit on certain video cards wile performing way better on a different video card is BS both by the card manufacturers and the game developers.
I personally wont buy halflife2 if i keep seen reviews or post saying the game does not preform ok or is plaged by bugs and lock-up with a nvidia based card. i already bought a BFG 6800 gt oc i bought it cause it was on sale at the local bestbuy and the lifetime warranty it carrys. i would do the same if i owned the ati card.
This goes for both video card manufacturers. If they want to win the GPU market place it should be done by offering a good pruduct overall not just by claming that the card does better at one game.
You realize for ati cards, "+r_fastzreject 1" is disabled by default right?Xilikon said:I'm a very sane person and i stand by my arguments. It would be fool to compare results of a game for a card against another result of another game with another game but Firingsquad showed results for a group of cards from both ATI and Nvidia and this showed a "trend", not expected results for HL2. Also, CPU power has a say in the results so it may also effect the results but should it should be uniform across any video card.
I might have brought some bad arguments but what i wanted to show is that the 40% advantage for ATI might just be PR stuff, not legit results. What i expect more is less than 5% advantage for ATI, knowing that the source engine is using DirectX.
This can be ported to Doom3 debate on what card is best... We all know Nvidia is better but just within 5-10% margin, not a whopping 50%. I'm neither a ATI or a Nvidia !!!!!! because i have owned both and i know the strong points of each.
Did you convienlently skip my post?Xilikon said:I will not argue anymore with the stupid ATI !!!!!!s so we will wait for realistic and serious benchmark like Becoming told. What's better to settle the debate than to show serious proof. I already said in my last reply i expect ATI to have a slight advantage in HL2 compared to Nvidia but not huge differences.
/debate mode off
So under graphically limited sitauations, you can get huge gains, but cpu limited situations get slower.You realize for ati cards, "+r_fastzreject 1" is disabled by default right?
"The command enables Z fill geometry pass in order to speed up rendering of the full scene rendering pass - by default I'm told it is disabled for ATI as they had some slight performance drops in the more CPU limited levels, however there are gains to be had in graphics limited levels."
People are reporting up to a 40fps gain.
KayossZero said:...............
Haha not, you need to hang at the games forum more, you have zero credibility here. But please give me another NV3X Owned RXX spiel Badger.
Brent_Justice said:This whole thread is pointless.
Netrat33 said:Not true. We got a picture of a rabbit with a pancake on its head
tazdevl said:And who do you think is a nVIDIA Advisor? We're talking a formal role. Carmack. You think he didn't get anything from nVIDIA when it came to Doom3?
Not to mention, nVIDIA was bidding on HL2 as well. If they didn't, you might have a leg to stand on.
Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.