Well when I sent it in for repair and they asked me to ship my video card from newegg I removed for my old pc. That made me angry. I told them I would like a refund and they refused and they still wanted to charge me a $15 fee to change to the boards they later dropped. They were upset that I had missed an earlier RMA request do to my father being sick and had to taken to the hospital. Even if I demand a refund at this point they will probably refuse and I will end up having to file a lawsuit and maybe pay lawyer fees.