would it help if i told you that eye candy is not an option with a 5200. Far Cry gets less than 20 fps at 800x600 on all low settings and no aa/af.BlackTigers91 said:Would it help if I told you that I don't need eye candy to game?
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would it help if i told you that eye candy is not an option with a 5200. Far Cry gets less than 20 fps at 800x600 on all low settings and no aa/af.BlackTigers91 said:Would it help if I told you that I don't need eye candy to game?
BlackTigers91 said:I can run BF2 on an FX5200 very strongly. Granted, its nothing spectacular, but my FX5200 is by no means weak...
No game i threw at ran at anything near playable.BlackTigers91 said:That's odd, because every game I've thrown at it had played just fine...
Hmm.....lithium726 said:No game i threw at ran at anything near playable.
Several games I threw at my old FX 5200 PCI played pretty well: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1026668125&postcount=1lithium726 said:No game i threw at ran at anything near playable.
your own bencmarks show that the card is crap. Doom3 is not even playable at 640x480. i dont know how you got the Far Cry scores because my old 5700 got much lower than what you got for the 5200.pxc said:Several games I threw at my old FX 5200 PCI played pretty well: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1026668125&postcount=1
The FX 5200 was a terrible DX9 card, but it was a decent DX8 card.
He had them all at ihgh settings on Doom 3 .trek554 said:your own bencmarks show that the card is crap. Doom3 is not even playable at 640x480. i dont know how you got the Far Cry scores because my old 5700 got much lower than what you got for the 5200.
no he didnt. it says LQ which is low quality.BlackTigers91 said:He had them all at ihgh settings on Doom 3 .
Well, it was a classic PCI card and i've seen 0-20% performance improvements comparing AGP to PCI versions of the same card.trek554 said:your own bencmarks show that the card is crap. Doom3 is not even playable at 640x480. i dont know how you got the Far Cry scores because my old 5700 got much lower than what you got for the 5200.
ForBuilding said:good topic, good to know for people like me who have a 6200 and are happy with it! the best i've owned was a 6600 and played prince of persia? i just play starcraft now...anyone here still play that?
Because the 9800 series was a .15um part, and the pro/XT were pretty damn close to their maximum clock speed already, the OCs people got on those cards were pretty small.axeman said:well if that be the case then why not overclock the 9800pro.
Sabrewulf165 said:And yet still it brings you back to the point of having to heavily overclock the 6200 in order to simply match or slightly defeat the 9800 at stock speeds. Why would someone using this machine for a casual guest gaming box want to suffer through all the hassles and possible instabillities of overclocking? This isnt' a purchasing decision, the guy already has both cards, so why would he complicate matters by doing heavy overclocking? All he asked was which one is better, and the 9800 pro/xt clearly wins in that regard.
I don't know why every comparison thread on this forum always boils down to overclocking f4nboys vs. stock performance. There's simply no excuse for a thread like this to be up to 3 or 4 pages.
PS - this post isn't directed at anyone in particular, just a general observation.
you are staring at the sky, I wonder why it was playablepxc said:Overclocked NV43 core 6200s rule.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3034/fs620028rw.th.jpg
HL2 was playable at 1600x1200 w/ 2xAA/4xAF on one of my old 6200s above.
Trimlock said:the last two posts above yours was to compare the fact that the 6200 had a shit ton of head room in it, OC'ing the 9800 wasnt really an option
heavily overclocking? all it required was toolbits to be installed, open the quad, and let it auto detect the card, i think the temp changes on the card were anywhere from 3c to 8c max
also, no one should ever wonder why a discussion on an enthusiasts forum like this one would ever turn into OC'ing or stock performance it is in our nature, no one here was making a biased opinion, except for the dude who wanted him to get it because it ruled in Doom3... and only Doom3...
1) You're ignoring the fact that these tasks are not as simple for everyone as they might be for you or me. You're ASSUMING that everyone who comes here for advice knows how to do these things.
2) Just because this is an enthusiasts forum doesn't mean it's an OVERCLOCKERS forum. Plenty of people can be enthusiastic about computers and hardware without necessarily wanting to overclock. That whole "this is an enthusiast forum what are you doing here if you don't OC every single piece of hardware you come across as far as you can?" is such a lame cop-out anyway.
Actually, it's a building where Alyx was standing if you ever played HL2. She had moved when I took that screenshot. And no offense, but I played HL2 with that card and you didn't.DaCoOlNeSs said:you are staring at the sky, I wonder why it was playable
Trimlock said:1) you are ignoring the fact that it is simple and if he wanted to know what to look for or how to do it, he wouldn't need alot of experience to accomplish it
2) you are ignoring the fact that this site is yet again for enthusiasts, not only but its something everyone here pretty much preaches and will always give a helping hand in it, wether asked for or not, you go to car forums to talk about cars, you go to a forum with a bunch of enthusiasts about video cards you are going to get pretty much you stated, i don't see why you are getting mad at this fact
not to mention just because i said its an enthusiast forum doesn't mean we are going to go ahead and recommend he OC everything before he talks to us, thats just simple ignorant talk right there ... just because people talk about it, what he could do with it and the fact its simple to do if he wanted to do it doesn't mean people won't give him the time of day till he does do it...
and back to your first statement, where did i assume he knew these things? this is a forum for advise, if he wanted advise on how to do ... he'd ask???? seriously the only one here assuming is you and it seems you are just looking for stupid shit to get mad at.
BlackTigers91 said:Unlocked and OCed: 6200 > 9800PRO
I was just trying to get everyone to shut up, sheesh. Calling me a !!!!!! becauseI'm wrong is pretty odd.Tigerblade said:Even when unlocked it only has the performance of a regular 6600 not the GT from what I've read, so the 9800Pro will still be faster at stock.
So piss about unlocking and overclocking to still be slower than a stock 9800Pro? Only a !!!!!! would do that.....
Shens. I have a friend who's in exactly the same boat as you - claims that B&W 2, AOE 3, etc. all run "fine".BlackTigers91 said:Absolutely, there is NO game I've run that couldn't be played...
Hahaha, yeah. I don't need eye candy, AA, AF, or 1928309128x9813401298 resolutions .WhoBeDaPlaya said:Shens. I have a friend who's in exactly the same boat as you - claims that B&W 2, AOE 3, etc. all run "fine".
But then again, I will concede that you have your own definition of "fine". For me, "fine" is setting the res to 1280x1024, maxing out everything else and forgetting about it *looks lovingly at X1900XT*
i have a 6600 and HL2 is not smooth at 1600x1200 on medium settings. i have hard time believing you played at that resolution on a 6200.pxc said:Actually, it's a building where Alyx was standing if you ever played HL2. She had moved when I took that screenshot. And no offense, but I played HL2 with that card and you didn't.
He had it unlocked and clocked to high heavens, I believe it was around 6600GT clockspeeds.trek554 said:i have a 6600 and HL2 is not smooth at 1600x1200 on medium settings. i have hard time believing you played at that resolution on a 6200.
well then that makes more sense. a stock 6200 sucks and most cannot be unlocked at all. my 6600 is just enough to tease me with most games. i tried overclocking but it really didnt make much difference especially with the super slow ddr1 memory. stock for a 6600 is 300/500 and the most i got was 380/590 so i dont see how that could even get close to 6600gt performance.lithium726 said:He had it unlocked and clocked to high heavens, I believe it was around 6600GT clockspeeds.
9800 will own it.perplex said:How does 6600 (vanilla) non-GT compare to 9800 Pro?
BlackTigers91 said:Stock for Stock: 9800PRO > 6200
Unlocked and OCed: 6200 > 9800PRO
Just pick one, ggggrrrreee. .
Well, PXC had his card clocked to 6600GT levels, so yes, you can .Firebat said:I wouldn't go that far...
I wouldn't either. Although a 6600 (or unlocked NV43 core 6200) at 500MHz+ has more shading power, the slow 128-bit memory holds it back a lot. It might be possible to find shader heavy games where an overclocked 6600 beats a 9800 Pro at medium resolution (1024x768 or 1280x1024), but that will be an exception.Firebat said:I wouldn't go that far...