Makaveli@BETA
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It's published by EA, no buy!
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It's published by EA, no buy!
"Obviously, we make every effort to not use CPU limited games for video card evaluations, but the i7-920 at 3.6GHz seems to put many peoples minds at ease when it comes to that subject."
Not sure if this is still true.
I'm aware the single player has no CPU scaling but I was under the impression the multiplayer (with a large amount of players) was different. Skyrim also seems to improve with newer CPUs (i7-3960X) although not with more cores.
New CPU for gaming reviews please.
For one... "Wrong" shadows on the wall behind the dumpster - invented by SSAO,
and the subtle job HBAO done with the same dumpster.
Also much better effect on the right wooden palette by HBAO
bf3 is not a cpu limited game. as long as you have 2 or more cores you will be limited by the gpu.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html
this isnt skyrim.
you are flat out wrong, i HAD a C2Q Q8200 running at 2.8ghz, i got BF3 and due to poor reviews stating that this game is not cpu reliant simply because they didn't test CPU's that are not on the market today i figured my poor frame rates in multiplayer even with lowest settings was because my 560 Ti couldn't keep up. due to this and it was not just [H] that reported this, many other high profile review sites did as well so i trusted my CPU should be fine as it has been with everything i've played recently anyways i took the plunge and got another 560 Ti to run SLI. result of this upgrade was zero performance increase. i said wow. started reading up on other people experiences on forums and using the games built in performance graph to see that my CPU was a MAJOR frame rate bottleneck so i went out and got an i5-2500k. after that upgrade my minimum frame rates doubled when just running 1 560 Ti and they nearly quadrupled with SLI turned on!
this is not an isolated experience, friends of mine have also done CPU upgrades to get the game performance up as well because the game is highly CPU dependent to an extent depending on what settings you run, if i run low 1920 x 1080, my CPU is still the slower component according to the games performance monitor.
I totally believe this.
People saying this game will run on a Dual core cpu are talking about single player.
BF3 is not playable multiplayer with anything less than a quad core anyone that says otherwise is lying!
I know that criticisms of methodology are not terribly welcome and all, but I just don't see the point in leaving SSAO or antialiasing on (yes, even FXAA) in multiplayer mode, especially when your frame rates are dipping down to 45 like this article showed on the 560Ti. For a competitive FPS, dropping any detail that doesn't help kill people seems to be the best idea long-term, and a high frame rate certainly would help.
I would love to hear yalls opinions on hyperthreading in BF3. I've read several people complaining about stutter on X58 platforms being resolved by disabling hyperthreading. I believe Brent commented that it made no difference in the singleplayer test comments. I personally don't notice any stutter on sandybridge regardless of hyperthreading being on/off. Are yall still planning on running some eyefinity benchmarks in the future?
I know that criticisms of methodology are not terribly welcome and all, but I just don't see the point in leaving SSAO or antialiasing on (yes, even FXAA) in multiplayer mode, especially when your frame rates are dipping down to 45 like this article showed on the 560Ti. For a competitive FPS, dropping any detail that doesn't help kill people seems to be the best idea long-term, and a high frame rate certainly would help. I consider 60fps to be much closer to the minimum than to an average when I'm in the market to buy PC gaming hardware for something like BF3 multiplayer, and I have to look at other sites' reviews to get the information I want.
I guess that's not that big a deal, but I just wish I could get everything I needed from the good ol' [H].
Well, you just lost another reader imbecile... flaming your audience is brilliant. By all means continue...
I'm not a fan of post process AA, it blurs the image, you can see that occuring on the screen shots of the vegetation in the fore ground.
When are they going to bring out higher resolution screens? 24 inch with a 2560X1600 would be nice and the smaller pixel size would reduce the eye's ability to notice the aliasing.
Well, you just lost another reader imbecile... flaming your audience is brilliant. By all means continue...
I do remember the thread a while back where Kyle built Brent the OC'ed 2600k machine, and after the review where 580 scaling in...quad-SLI(I think?)...actually improved, I thought the statement was made it was going to be the future platform for all GPU reviews. Not nit-picking here, just wondering why that transition hasn't occurred.
I know that criticisms of methodology are not terribly welcome and all, but I just don't see the point in leaving SSAO or antialiasing on (yes, even FXAA) in multiplayer mode, especially when your frame rates are dipping down to 45 like this article showed on the 560Ti. For a competitive FPS, dropping any detail that doesn't help kill people seems to be the best idea long-term, and a high frame rate certainly would help. I consider 60fps to be much closer to the minimum than to an average when I'm in the market to buy PC gaming hardware for something like BF3 multiplayer, and I have to look at other sites' reviews to get the information I want.
I guess that's not that big a deal, but I just wish I could get everything I needed from the good ol' [H].
Trying to pick someone out of the background at 900m for the perfect headshot, low settings don't cut it.
It could be an awesome game if it were not for:
Constant server disconnects from EA and game servers, it's random.
Hacks and exploits are everywhere ruining servers to the point everyone leaves.
Random not starts of the game
DO NOT BUY!!!
...Trying to pick someone out of the background at 900m for the perfect headshot, low settings don't cut it.
I want to see someone actually measure how much of a difference is to be had when you switch to a quad core.
I consider 60fps to be much closer to the minimum than to an average when I'm in the market to buy PC gaming hardware for something like BF3 multiplayer, and I have to look at other sites' reviews to get the information I want.
I guess that's not that big a deal, but I just wish I could get everything I needed from the good ol' [H].
Simply awesome review. I need a pair of 580s as soon as I get a job
I do have one question. If one has a 2560x1600 with a GTX580, should one lower the resolution to 1920x1200 since that is the highest playable setting, or should one keep the native resolution of the monitor and lower some other setting?
I am sure this has been talked about before but I cant find it. Any links would be great.
Again great article... been waiting for this one for a while.
This game is so good I'm already bored of it. I don't know why and I have not thought about it much yet, I'm just bored of it. Part of the reason is Origin, thinking about starting that up puts me off. All the stupid MW3 style unlocks as well.
I don't think it looked that great either. Many other games and even Bad Company 2 had me stopping and staring many times, not this one. The character models in BF3, they look a bit last gen to me. Facial animation/drawing seems off.
"Battlefield 3 is the most realistic first person shooter ever created"
I disagree on this one. I think ARMA 2 is the most realistic FPS created so far that I know of. BF3 is a fun FPS arcade game and that's all it is. Arguably it's a really good console port and a good sequel to Bad Company 2.
You're a fool and missing out on one of the best Multiplayer Gamers of 2011.
Well... Hell hes kinda right. They could review every bloody card from GTX590/6990 all the way down to a ATi 8500 and a TNT2, and someone will still be ticked off and ask if they could try different ram timings lol. You've got people complaining about gameplay..... and he's reviewing the hardware.
You've been on this forum for over 4 years and you're still this sensitive??
Nice way to talk to your audience.