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HP ZR24w, Dell U2410, Dell U2711, Apple Cinema Display... depending on which features you're looking for
the first two suffer huge tinting issues. avoid
the first two suffer huge tinting issues. avoid
I can say that I have no tinting issues on my HP ZR24w, in fact the only issue I have is the white glow.
Incorrect. They don't suffer "huge" tinting issues , tinting issues have been reported but many users don't have any tinting problems to report.
Get the facts straight.
fact is these ips monitors have more issues than normal TN panels and more double the price. im not saying ALL have issues but all im saying that DONT be surprised if you do get one with tinting issues.
You dont know fuck all about me. i have been using IPS panel monitors for over 5 years. maybe longer than you so get your facts straight before splirtting bullshing at me.TN panels are FAR from normal, an IPS panel could be the worst panel made (which its not) and it would still blow ANY TN panel out of the water. The fact that a TN panel is even in the same sentence as an IPS means you are a TN panel kinda guy and are trying to fight for the cheap route!
Anyone who knows monitors knows the differences in a TN panel vs. an IPS so I'm not gonna try and justify my comments.
Every panel has their issues ... yes.... but no matter what not a tn made touches and ips in Any realm whatsoever.
You dont know fuck all about me. i have been using IPS panel monitors for over 5 years. maybe longer than you so get your facts straight before splirtting bullshing at me.
unlike you i am not a fanboy and i tell it how i see it and how i see it is that their is not a single 24inch ips panel monitor that is reliable enough to warrent the price tag,
my current 22inch ips panel made by dell was one of the FIRST ips 22inch panel monitors you can buy. infact it was the only 22inch monitor of any kind out their. thats how old school i been rocking 22inch IPS panel monitors mate.
i aint trying to fight for the cheap route, im trying to tell the OP to beware that their is a great possibility that he will be flushing away £400 down the toilet.
i was about to pull the trigger on that dell 24inch ips panel but nearly all forums and reviews i go to complain about tinting issues. i may get lucky and get one with no issues but i am not prepared to gamble on £400 of my hard earned cash. OP may have the balls to do it but not me
Tinting was resolved in later revisions of the panels, that includes the U2410 as well. Right now the only issues left behind is the IPS white glow found on my most IPS screens, even then reports claim it to be negligible.
Here's from a more reliable source: He acknowledges the problems with tinting, however notices it's not plaguing his monitor. Likely newer revisions.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_zr24w.htm
All LCD's have their individual problems, you should know that by now. tsk tsk years of IPS use and none the wiser.
Sir I would like you to please calm down as I have important things to say.
For all those years you've spent with IPS panels, you are none the wiser. That is the only factual information I have been able to come up in regards to your posts in this thread.
He can flush £400 but thats why there's RMA's. Even then if he went the cheaper route he'd be wasting however much the TN panel is worth.
I prefer IPS over TN, although I also play games including the occasional round of BC2.
What do people recommend for IPS monitors? 24" is as small as I'd want to go.
You dont know fuck all about me. i have been using IPS panel monitors for over 5 years. maybe longer than you so get your facts straight before splirtting bullshing at me.
unlike you i am not a fanboy and i tell it how i see it and how i see it is that their is not a single 24inch ips panel monitor that is reliable enough to warrent the price tag,
my current 22inch ips panel made by dell was one of the FIRST ips 22inch panel monitors you can buy. infact it was the only 22inch monitor of any kind out their. thats how old school i been rocking 22inch IPS panel monitors mate.
i aint trying to fight for the cheap route, im trying to tell the OP to beware that their is a great possibility that he will be flushing away £400 down the toilet.
i was about to pull the trigger on that dell 24inch ips panel but nearly all forums and reviews i go to complain about tinting issues. i may get lucky and get one with no issues but i am not prepared to gamble on £400 of my hard earned cash. OP may have the balls to do it but not me
You dont know fuck all about me. i have been using IPS panel monitors for over 5 years. maybe longer than you so get your facts straight before splirtting bullshing at me.
unlike you i am not a fanboy and i tell it how i see it and how i see it is that their is not a single 24inch ips panel monitor that is reliable enough to warrent the price tag,
my current 22inch ips panel made by dell was one of the FIRST ips 22inch panel monitors you can buy. infact it was the only 22inch monitor of any kind out their. thats how old school i been rocking 22inch IPS panel monitors mate.
i aint trying to fight for the cheap route, im trying to tell the OP to beware that their is a great possibility that he will be flushing away £400 down the toilet.
i was about to pull the trigger on that dell 24inch ips panel but nearly all forums and reviews i go to complain about tinting issues. i may get lucky and get one with no issues but i am not prepared to gamble on £400 of my hard earned cash. OP may have the balls to do it but not me
no your incorrect. OP go and read the official threads here about those monitors. 9/10 people complained about tinting issues. some even on their 2/3rd monitor.
The best solution is just save your money for OLED in a couple years rather than paying near $1000 for some overpriced NEC IPS which still has most of the problems of cheap IPS panels.
Sony (who was the prime OLED developer currently) just sold its entire OLED factory off to Toshiba to make LCD-LED panels.
OLED is all but completely dead now for anything larger than cell phone displays.
We'll be lucky to see large panel OLEDs in the next 5-10 years maybe more.
Right , 9/10 in a thread with a ton of posts about all kinds of varying issues. This isn't a dental statistic dude. People have problems with monitors and make official threads , every thread for nearly any kind of monitor has users with problems.
Do you even own either monitor? Didn't think so. Just because some users have issues doesn't mean anyone who posts in that thread do.
kind of reminds me of the same shit people like u say about the failure rate of the xbox 360. Look how reliable that crap is. I know every product can fail but go dig out loads of different 480gtx and count the amount of people whos cards have failed or go to the ATI boards and do the same.
point is. they dont fail as MUCH as these ips panels.
OLED is all but completely dead now for anything larger than cell phone displays.
LG's 15EL9500 is available right now though. Okay, it's 15" and 720p, but it shows OLED isn't exactly dead in the water.
They seem to be promoting that model as a "toilet TV" from the brochures, with larger models to come for elsewhere in the home.
Yeah, $2000 novelty OLEDs exist. But while we might have an OLED monitor by 2015, that has little bearing on providing the best IPS screen for the original poster today.
Exactly. There are always novelty items for new technology. OLED for all intents and purposes of the computer user is dead. You won't see anything for awhile and if you do it'll cost far far more than a regular monitor with weak specs to boot.
I believe I've seen you write that before...
What do you know that the rest of us don't?
Burn in?
Seriously, the risk can be minimized by certain measures like having the screensaver go off in just a minute or two, move the OS' taskbar to another side, auto-hide it etc etc.
Blue aging faster?
Well, I don't really know how it works, but many monitors start out with 50/50/50 values for RGB. Just increase the intensity of blue a bit after a couple of months.
That is entirely untrue. Please stop spreading misinformation.Tinting was resolved in later revisions of the panels, that includes the U2410 as well.
The review was done on an A00 screen when they first appeared. Btw the same review also completely failed to notice the grainy black problems with Adobe/sRGB mode on A00 too, which A01 fixed. Not all U2410's have tint issues, and they make an excellent screen when they are free of the problem. It's the only major caveat about buying the U2410. There are some minor ones, the main one being the current Custom mode is also kinda broken, as it has a gamma curve close to 1.8 and cannot be properly calibrated due to limitations in this mode. Other modes (outside Adobe/sRGB which use the onboard LUT) are also affected to varying degrees too. It would be a nice move on Dell's part if they were to make some sort of deal with a 3rd party to give someones calibration utility access to the LUT data so users can manipulate it to calibrate their screen as nicely as the included Adobe/sRGB modes.Here's from a more reliable source: He acknowledges the problems with tinting, however notices it's not plaguing his monitor. Likely newer revisions.
That's true. But new technologies also introduce new challenges. Very wide gamut devices, like the U2410, have introduced a new challenge, which is they must produce better colour uniformity than non-wide gamut devices, because the gamut will make any flaws more visible.All LCD's have their individual problems, you should know that by now. tsk tsk years of IPS use and none the wiser.