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J-Mag said:Clobbers? Are you guys looking at different charts or something?
The T2600 only edges out when overclocked, they aren't showing any overclocked AMD chips...
Also, as I thought and as usual CPU performance means very little in modern Game titles (except for maybe Oblivion) as most poeple run in GPU limited scenarios.
J-Mag said:Clobbers? Are you guys looking at different charts or something?
The T2600 only edges out when overclocked, they aren't showing any overclocked AMD chips...
Also, as I thought and as usual CPU performance means very little in modern Game titles (except for maybe Oblivion) as most poeple run in GPU limited scenarios.
that makes me scratch my head. i guess fear is video card limited at 1280x960..freeloader1969 said:Quake 4@640 by 480 - Tie (less than 1 FPS)
Quake 4@1024x768 - 4% faster than FX60
Fear 640x480 19% faster than FX60
Fear 1280x960 - Tie
Far Cry 800x600 - 12% faster than FX60
Far Cry 1280x1024 - 15% faster than FX60
freeloader1969 said:Core Duo at 2600mhz VS. FX60 at stock (2.6ghz)
Xvid encoding 11% faster than FX60
DVD Ripping 1% faster than FX60
MP3 encoding 22% in favor of Athlon FX60
Image Processing 6% faster than FX60
Quake 4@640 by 480 - Tie (less than 1 FPS)
Quake 4@1024x768 - 4% faster than FX60
Fear 640x480 19% faster than FX60
Fear 1280x960 - Tie
Far Cry 800x600 - 12% faster than FX60
Far Cry 1280x1024 - 15% faster than FX60
Hardly anything to get you knickers in a knot over!
Asian Dub Foundation said:old hardware vs new hardware just dosent work
comparing conroe to A64 right now is just stupid. OF COURCE conroe will do better, newer techonology no?
J-Mag said:Core Duo doesn't mean Conroe...
yeah but what about my commodore 128....Tazman2 said:My current box > your Commodore 64 even when overclocked!
styleboy said:yeah but what about my commodore 128....
$BangforThe$ said:Why would you want to see higher Res that doesn't show the power of the CPU just the GPU.?
Asian Dub Foundation said:i know that. my comment did not apply to what the OP is presenting. it for the argument you can't compare old to the new
MrGuvernment said:unless you encode alot , would love to see the games at higher resolutions, like 1280 x 1024, come on....
Rabid Badger said:Clock for clock? Why don't they call it what it is? 20% overclock vs. stock. This *might* be applicable if they could guarantee that every single T2600 could achieve a 20% OC. As it is, it's just another B.S. article that will spawn thousands of B.S. threads just like this one.
evilmedic said:Well, of course you can compare the old to the new.. lets look at the heritage of the FX60.
it is the thetest interation of the K-8 .....die shrunk to 90nm, with Dual core and with Dual Channel memory controllers........based on K-8 technology. first released in septermber 2003.........
Core Duo is based on the pentium M platform...die shrunk to 65nm, with dual core and also with Dual channel memory architecture.........based on pentium-m technology...first released in march 2003.... ...
The chip T2600 was released on the 5th of Jan 2006.. The Fx60 was released on 10th Jan 2006... so the Core Duo T2600 chip is older than the Fx60 too.!'
By most standards, this is can only be considered "older technology" beating newer technology.
evilmedic said:The article confirms that a Intel Core Duo running at 2600MHz is faster than a Athlon 64 FX60 running at 2600MHz under a specific set of hardware.
Yes you can argue the merit of whether it is fair comparing an O/C"ed CPU's performance with stock performance.. but then again, everyone who has bought a Opteron 165 or overclocks a CPU will definately find it benificial to have these type of articles.
but as was brought up before, where do you draw the line if you're gonna do that? cause if you're gonna call duo a glorified pentium M, the FX-60 is a glorified K7... i'd be surprised if K8 and K7 really do have more in common than core duo and dothan.. but then what's to stop you from saying that it's all x86 based, which means they're all glorified 186's?evilmedic said:Well, of course you can compare the old to the new.. lets look at the heritage of the FX60.
it is the thetest interation of the K-8 .....die shrunk to 90nm, with Dual core and with Dual Channel memory controllers........based on K-8 technology. first released in septermber 2003.........
Core Duo is based on the pentium M platform...die shrunk to 65nm, with dual core and also with Dual channel memory architecture.........based on pentium-m technology...first released in march 2003.... ...
The chip T2600 was released on the 5th of Jan 2006.. The Fx60 was released on 10th Jan 2006... so the Core Duo T2600 chip is older than the Fx60 too.!'
By most standards, this is can only be considered "older technology" beating newer technology.
phatfong said:Whats the price diff between the two?
Tanatz said:good question - anyone?
also, what about power consumption?
FreiDOg said:The T2600 is about $650 - 700.
That will get to about $450 in a week or two when the 2.33ghz Core Duo comes out.
System power consumption at stock:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/core-duo/index.x?pg=15
Just the CPU at stock again
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-n4lvm-dh_16.html
MrGuvernment said:AM2 release, you can get a Sempron +3800 for about $150 - sorry AMD, but your price cuts BETTER be better then that
mmmm, sempron +3800, or Intel Dual Core 805 for $40 cheaper.......
AMD currently sells every single CPU they make. Demand is currently very high, and AMD has high prices to match that. Simple supply vs. demand.Donnie27 said:They have even worse problems with their middle-range products that will have to compete with Conroe, Yonah and Pressler that cost less, a LOT less.
visaris said:AMD currently sells every single CPU they make. Demand is currently very high, and AMD has high prices to match that. Simple supply vs. demand.
When Conroe comes out AMD's demand will drop, and their prices will drop with it to ensure that AMD can keep selling all their chips.
Your comparison of predicted Conroe launch prices to pre-Conroe AMD prices is pretty funny.