Crosshair V Problems / Bugs / Other Things / *READ BEFORE YOU BUY*

AMDWiZARD said:
Just for note, my set is the F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL I'm not sure what the difference is between the 16GBRL (what I have) and the 8GBXL (what you have)...

I'll get those screenshots to you.
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Can you please PM us so we can provide you our email addresses for those screenshots. We have no problems running your specified memory in either 8GB or 16GB configurations and GSkill confirmed no problems with the 0506 or 0027 EFI releases with these same kits this morning. We have provided instructions on how to setup the board with these modules properly along with our results. We are here to assist you but we do require this base information from you in order to replicate what you are experiencing. :D
 
Raja / Gary,

My apologies that I haven't got to it this week yet, my dual Opteron Tyan motherboard decided it didn't want to post anymore at work. Hence, my last week has been spent dealing with work related issues.

I will provide the screenshots, I'll have to put them up somewhere unless you would like to pm me your direct email and I'd send them right over.

In addition, I ordered another 16GB Kit of G.skill which is coming today. This is the 16GBXL this time.
System is still rock solid with 1333mhz @ 8-8-8-24 1.55v.

I am going to try the GBXL today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231456 these are 1866mhz rated modules timing 9-10-9-28. lets see how these fair out today.
 
I have been looking through the tread but noticed that you have not said anything about the north bridge voltage? Have you upped that yet by any chance. I know AMD processors are alittle flaky when all DIMM's are populated. I would recomment 1.25v for the NB voltage, Also make sure the memory is not Ganged too. For best compatibility with ASUS boards i would recommend Corsair Memory they have a strong partnership.
 
(Double post from ROG forum, but so everyone can see)

Raja,

Got my 16gb kit installed and it booted right up.. got errors in prime95 almost immediately so I changed the write to write delay to 4 and hasnt hiccuped yet...I will be playing with the overclock (once the cooler gets here) and continuing to tweak this thing.. I will keep ya updated..

Anyone know which air coolers will clear all 4 DIMM's?
 
drmalenko said:
(Double post from ROG forum, but so everyone can see)

Raja,

Got my 16gb kit installed and it booted right up.. got errors in prime95 almost immediately so I changed the write to write delay to 4 and hasnt hiccuped yet...I will be playing with the overclock (once the cooler gets here) and continuing to tweak this thing.. I will keep ya updated..

Anyone know which air coolers will clear all 4 DIMM's?
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i know the cheap CM 212+ will just clear the DIMM slots with my g.skill's 'F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL', (all 4 DIMM populated). not sure about your RAM, but the heatspreaders on mine are low profile.
glad i'm not using the CM 212+ permanently as they are a bitch to install.
 
And right now, I don't know why anyone is going with the 990FX until Zambezi comes out. The only thing it can give you today is SLI support. Beyond that they seem to be nothing but problematic with current Phenom II processors. The 990FX boards I've seen have all been toublesome to say the least. While I haven't worked with the Crosshair V, my experiences have been pretty universal with them so far and I'd expect issues right now. Beyond that, the audio on almost all boards that advertise "Creative X-Fi 2" onboard are all Realtek ALC889 or ALC892's using software EAX emulation. All of the ASUS ROG boards which advertise this feature use ALC889's. I agree it's nonsense but that's just how things are these days. It's sort of a mixed blessing as the Realtek drivers are solid and Creative drivers tend not to be.

As far as the Intel network issues go, that needs to be fixed. A Realtek NIC is not the solution. That's a huge downgrade if anything.
 
Gentlemen,

As promised the results of my RAM testing with the GBXL is as follows:
Although I have not attempted to do the stock 1866mhz on the set, I can 100% confirm that the GBXL works flawlessly @ 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 (1866 timings are 9-10-9-28). Memtest passes perfectly.

Now could it be an incompatibility between the GBRL and this motherboard? very possible.

Dan_D, I think the fact that people with the onboard Intel nic have reported the SAME problems with the Crosshair IV motherboard and STILL NO RESOLUTION to it makes the Realtek NIC look like a real winner. :)

Reminds me of the ol' Nvidia NFORCE NIC controller problem where heavy load made the system crash BSOD and corrupted the TCP/IP stacks and drivers. I am wondering exactly what the Intel NIC problem is related to? Is anyone running 32-bit that confirm the issue happens in that platform?

Well time to add my second Radeon 6850 :) What a beast! I am going to attempt to get down to the bottom of the Intel NIC someway somehow maybe this weekend. Depends on my time.
They still need to fix the F1 fan cold boot issue. I mean I can ignore it in BIOS but i think everyone would be happier if they fixed it anyway.
 
RAM problems are caused because ECC is turned on by default.. As soon as i turned mine off all was good.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
 
AMDWiZARD said:
Gentlemen,

As promised the results of my RAM testing with the GBXL is as follows:
Although I have not attempted to do the stock 1866mhz on the set, I can 100% confirm that the GBXL works flawlessly @ 1600mhz 9-9-9-24 (1866 timings are 9-10-9-28). Memtest passes perfectly.

Now could it be an incompatibility between the GBRL and this motherboard? very possible.
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We have requested your BIOS screenshots on several occasions and have yet to receieve anything back - no help can be given unless we get what we need to look into this. The offset to Read to Read delay has worked for other users with the same/similar kits. Curious why it does not work for you. You have my email address now too. Send me the screenshots of the BIOS and also a Prime 95 failure screenshot showing CPU-Z CPU, Memory Timing, SPD and Mainboard tabs open if you want us to look into this.

AMDWiZARD said:
Dan_D, I think the fact that people with the onboard Intel nic have reported the SAME problems with the Crosshair IV motherboard and STILL NO RESOLUTION to it makes the Realtek NIC look like a real winner. :)

Reminds me of the ol' Nvidia NFORCE NIC controller problem where heavy load made the system crash BSOD and corrupted the TCP/IP stacks and drivers. I am wondering exactly what the Intel NIC problem is related to? Is anyone running 32-bit that confirm the issue happens in that platform?

Well time to add my second Radeon 6850 :) What a beast! I am going to attempt to get down to the bottom of the Intel NIC someway somehow maybe this weekend. Depends on my time.
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Test driver for the NIC has been posted in a few threads on ROG and found to fix any problems. I have also posted a link to the file in the support thread of this forum.

-Raja
 
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So, Why not buy this board again (C5F)? hahahaa
In the end they run pretty good eh?
Too bad these titles are never re thought.
Buy this board, work out the few glitches with your
particular hardware set up...and get everything and more
that you bought a board like this is the first place for..respectfully offered.c.
 
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Thank guys the is info has stopped me pulling out my hair will be testing the nic drivers today and confirm I have not had the CPU fan issue. One thing I did have trouble with is I have gskill sniper ram and it runs at 1.25 volts out of the box. The board won't let me set the voltage this low so I have just uped the voltage and is stable enough.
 
EAC said:
I'm really not sure, although its certainly not an isolated incident as more reports of the problem are popping up on forums.

You guys that have it working ok, have you tried (if you can) copying something over the network, which will max out the NIC (110MB/s), then if that works, try it again whilst doing other things over the network at the same time, such as playing a youtube clip or using remote desktop, etc.

I can download, watch HD youtube, RDP, without issue, its when the network is properly stressed (90%+ network utilisation) that I get the BSOD, without fail.
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I find the BSD is more frequent when just accessing files on my NAS can browse web fine but as soon as I start working with files on my NAS BSD. :(
 
Not sure if this helps but I've been running 16 gig's of Corsair sticks with no problems. I did have to change the speed to 1600 in the bios but that was it. Here's the settings they have:

Chipset
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Northbridge ATI ID5A14 rev. 02
Southbridge AMD SB850 rev. 40
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 16384 MBytes
Channels Dual, (Unganged)
Memory Frequency 802.7 MHz (1:4)
CAS# latency (CL) 9.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 41
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Uncore Frequency 2006.8 MHz

Memory SPD
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-8500F (533 MHz)
Part number CMX8GX3M2A2000C9
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes
XMP revision 1.2
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-23-31 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-26-35 @ 685 MHz
XMP profile XMP-2000
Specification PC3-16000
Voltage level 1.650 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.000 ns (1000 MHz)
Min tRP 9.00 ns
Min tRCD 10.00 ns
Min tWR 15.00 ns
Min tRAS 27.00 ns
Min tRC 50.63 ns
Min tRFC 160.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 7.50 ns
Command Rate 2T
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 6.0-7-6-18-34-2T @ 666 MHz (1.650 Volts)
XMP #2 9.0-10-9-27-51-2T @ 1000 MHz (1.650 Volts)

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-8500F (533 MHz)
Part number CMX8GX3M2A2000C9
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes
XMP revision 1.2
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-23-31 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-26-35 @ 685 MHz
XMP profile XMP-2000
Specification PC3-16000
Voltage level 1.650 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.000 ns (1000 MHz)
Min tRP 9.00 ns
Min tRCD 10.00 ns
Min tWR 15.00 ns
Min tRAS 27.00 ns
Min tRC 50.63 ns
Min tRFC 160.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 7.50 ns
Command Rate 2T
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 6.0-7-6-18-34-2T @ 666 MHz (1.650 Volts)
XMP #2 9.0-10-9-27-51-2T @ 1000 MHz (1.650 Volts)

DIMM # 3
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-8500F (533 MHz)
Part number CMX8GX3M2A2000C9
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes
XMP revision 1.2
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-23-31 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-26-35 @ 685 MHz
XMP profile XMP-2000
Specification PC3-16000
Voltage level 1.650 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.000 ns (1000 MHz)
Min tRP 9.00 ns
Min tRCD 10.00 ns
Min tWR 15.00 ns
Min tRAS 27.00 ns
Min tRC 50.63 ns
Min tRFC 160.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 7.50 ns
Command Rate 2T
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 6.0-7-6-18-34-2T @ 666 MHz (1.650 Volts)
XMP #2 9.0-10-9-27-51-2T @ 1000 MHz (1.650 Volts)

DIMM # 4
SMBus address 0x53
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-8500F (533 MHz)
Part number CMX8GX3M2A2000C9
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes
XMP revision 1.2
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-23-31 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-26-35 @ 685 MHz
XMP profile XMP-2000
Specification PC3-16000
Voltage level 1.650 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.000 ns (1000 MHz)
Min tRP 9.00 ns
Min tRCD 10.00 ns
Min tWR 15.00 ns
Min tRAS 27.00 ns
Min tRC 50.63 ns
Min tRFC 160.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 7.50 ns
Command Rate 2T
XMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
XMP #1 6.0-7-6-18-34-2T @ 666 MHz (1.650 Volts)
XMP #2 9.0-10-9-27-51-2T @ 1000 MHz (1.650 Volts)
 
I've thought of picking up this board, but Asus support for Linux issues has been non-existent. Has this changed at all? I'm not asking for Linux support in general, but if for example the board doesn't work correctly with iommu because of a bios bug, I expect Asus to take my report & look into it rather than say "linux = unsupported".

Has anyone tried the CHV under Linux?
 
Robstar said:
I've thought of picking up this board, but Asus support for Linux issues has been non-existent. Has this changed at all? I'm not asking for Linux support in general, but if for example the board doesn't work correctly with iommu because of a bios bug, I expect Asus to take my report & look into it rather than say "linux = unsupported".

Has anyone tried the CHV under Linux?
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It's working for me but I'm still at the overclocking stage - I only finished the build (FX-8150) a couple of days ago. So no virtualization yet. But at least ECC memory (16GB Kingston KVR1333D3E9S/4GEC) and lm-sensors work well, except for the temp sensors on the DIMMs. There is allegedly a driver (jc42) but it's not included in the kernel.
Running Debian Squeeze with 3.1.0-1-amd64 at the moment. I do have the problem with USB2 though (doesn't work when IOMMU is enabled - only USB3 works.)
 
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