creepcolony
Limp Gawd
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i'm thinking about getting an LCD monitor to replay my CRT but i have a question about DVI. i read that DVI helps make text less blurry, but would it help for gaming?
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IceWind said:Basically, if you go LCD, you must at all costs use DVI. It greatly reduced the signal loss as a result of going from digital to analog. Everything benefits from DVI. I cannot wait to see my L90D+ on Thursday in action!!
ozziegn said:VGA just looks terrible compared to DVI.
ozziegn said:you forced your LCD's refresh rate to 120?
I thought that 60 was pretty much the (max) standard when it came to LCD refresh rates.
RawsonDR said:Uncheck the "hide modes..." option in settings and set the refresh at 85Hz anyway (on DVI). Its my belief that this really has nothing to do with your monitor, if you run an LCD. With the driver correctly installed for my 2001FP, I can set it as high as 85Hz. With the windows standard driver, though, I can set it to 120Hz and I use to run it there constantly. No difference in the look of the monitor. I don't know why manufacturer specs include a max refresh rate since LCDs do not refresh in frames like this, as CRTs do. I believe it amounts only to a software change when using an LCD.
If you want to try something interesting switch between your max and lowest refresh rate. Notice your mouse tracks much more smoothly on the high refresh rate (mine does anyway - noticeably).
burningrave101 said:I unchecked the "hode modes" in driver properties and the only option i have for DVI is 60Hz. I'll try just using the windows driver later on when i switch to my new machine today.
Wouldn't it hurt the LCD to have it set at 85Hz or 120Hz since it was never meant to refresh like that?
IceWind said:My new L90D+ looked terrible in VGA mode, the sharpness went down drastically. DVI all the way for me.
RawsonDR said:Uncheck the "hide modes..." option in settings and set the refresh at 85Hz anyway (on DVI). Its my belief that this really has nothing to do with your monitor, if you run an LCD. With the driver correctly installed for my 2001FP, I can set it as high as 85Hz. With the windows standard driver, though, I can set it to 120Hz and I use to run it there constantly. No difference in the look of the monitor. I don't know why manufacturer specs include a max refresh rate since LCDs do not refresh in frames like this, as CRTs do. I believe it amounts only to a software change when using an LCD.
If you want to try something interesting switch between your max and lowest refresh rate. Notice your mouse tracks much more smoothly on the high refresh rate (mine does anyway - noticeably).
Omnikron said:Well does the 85hz hurt our 2001fp lcd I would like to try it out but dont want to mess up my lcd.
IceWind said:I tried forcing my L90D+ to 75hz but it didn't do shit. owell.....
Domingo said:This DEPENDS. A lot of us ran DVI vs. VGA tests and it varies by monitor. Some look identical with either, while others look better with DVI.
Ditto for games. Some monitors will ghost more with DVI or Analog while others won't.
There isn't a right or wrong answer because it depends on the monitor and even in some cases, the game.
For example, I have a Sony SDM-HS94P, a 12ms monitor targeted at gamers.
Well, DVI and VGA look *identical* and pretty much anyone with the monitor will verify this for you. They seem to have ever so slightly different default gamma settings but it's painfully easy to compare them using Nvidia's "clone" setting built into the detonators.
In terms of gaming, I tested Need For Speed: UG 1 and 2, HL2, Doom 3, Simpsons: Hit and Run, Star Wars: KOTR, Unreal Tournament 2K4, and Neverwinter Nights.
Some games (HL2 for instance), will ghost identically. Others like Need For Speed perform visibly better in analog. Doom and KOTOR prerformed better in DVI.
Analog will usually allow a higher refresh rate. In my case, DVI caps at 60, while analog will go to 75. Visibly this means absolutely nothing...BUT it will allow you to have a higher max FPS while keeping vsync on. That doesn't mean much, but some people really notice a difference between 60 and 75 fps. I don't.
If I had to choose one, DVI is a little easier because you don't have to align all of your resolutions manually (it's easy, but sometimes a pain if you swap drivers often). I've also noticed some high res older games don't like analog hook-ups. For instance 1280X1024X32 simply won't run on analog for me...yet DVI does fine.
firey-eyez said:im not really sure but i can relate one personal experience regarding this. the other day i was fooling around with the refrest rate in a game's registry and i put it up to 120 to see what would happen. im not really sure what it did since it looked the same, but the mouse acted very differently. this seems to suggest that something happened to the refrest rate of the screen even though it is supposedly locked at 60hz. i donno...just something odd i guess