bigdogchris
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I'm all for religious equality but this is ridiculous. I'm sure the guy is not a killer either, yet he's forced to kill.
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If you buy something, that has something that truly offends you in it, something you did not know it contained prior to purchase, you return it, get a refund, and put it all behind you.
The only thing I see here that is stupid, is that it is being publicized after the guy got his refund. What's the point? He had issues with it, he got his refund. Isn't that how it is supposed to work?
OK I want to seriously understand something. The game is fiction.... his religion is real. Where do the two intertwine? Is this guy seriously stating that he would not watch the movie "In the name of the rose" or possibly "The Da Vinci Code" because the religions used for fictitious plot elements are/are not his religion?
Let me of course add that Valve went above and beyond the call of duty by refunding this guys money but why was did they need to refund it? I suspect that in this guys Steam folder are many games that would test this paradigm that has been put forth to Valve.
that is stupid
Sometimes the customer is not always right. Tell him TFB and flag his account so he can't purchase another game again on Steam.
If a game had my character fight my twin brother in the womb only to be birthed out of an alien vagina then forcibly baptized in his blood, I would probably still do it.
I have to attend a real baptism next weekend, and I don't wanna.
People are fed up with religious BS and the internet provides an anonymous forum where people can openly express their ideas.Why is it some people just can't help but to smack religion at every opportunity?
I really wish people that think of themselves as "better" than others would gain some freaking humility and learn to treat people they disagree with something over with a shred of respect and decency. You think you're better because you're an atheist? Lead by example then. You know who you are. You're just as bad as this guy whining about a baptism scene. "Oh no, people have religions! I must whine about it all the time!" Can't you see what you're doing? Do you really hate people that much that you don't even know simply because they believe in something you do not? Not every religious person is trying to shove it down your throat, so could you please give the hate a rest for a while?
It does not make you more or less logical to have religious beliefs, it does not make you a better person to be atheist.
I think what's more pathetic than this guy getting a refund is all the anti-religious trolling going on in this thread. I myself am Christian, but I don't use every thread as an opportunity to bash atheists or other religions or to proselytize on what I believe. Why is it some people just can't help but to smack religion at every opportunity? It does not make you more or less logical to have religious beliefs, it does not make you a better person to be atheist. Jerks come in every flavor, as do good people. I really wish people that think of themselves as "better" than others would gain some freaking humility and learn to treat people they disagree with something over with a shred of respect and decency. You think you're better because you're an atheist? Lead by example then. You know who you are. You're just as bad as this guy whining about a baptism scene. "Oh no, people have religions! I must whine about it all the time!" Can't you see what you're doing? Do you really hate people that much that you don't even know simply because they believe in something you do not? Not every religious person is trying to shove it down your throat, so could you please give the hate a rest for a while?
People are fed up with religious BS and the internet provides an anonymous forum where people can openly express their ideas.
If pointing out the flaws in religious thinking makes you uncomfortable, well, that's just too bad. You have to attack the BS at the source. If your morality is rooted in magical thinking you will be led to make irrational (and immoral) decisions to protect the idealized moral system you've constructed in your head. This is particularly dangerous when it comes to members of radical/conservative religions who are taught that they have all the answers, but it can also lead to general stupidity like complaining about a fantasy ritual in a fantasy religion in a fantasy game. It reminds me of the churches here in Oklahoma that denounced (even burned) the Harry Potter books when I was a kid. I used to read them at school just to freak out the baptist kids.
That is so horribly untrue in my opinion. In fact, if anything I see people trying too hard to pull religion out everything.Because in real life we are bombarded by religion.
Err...what?
I thought being baptized/christened was part of the Christian faith as well?
Because in real life we are bombarded by religion.
I bitch about it on the internet because if I punched a guy who told me Jesus was the answer to my problems I would go to jail.
Except some of the atheists have an almost religious zeal in their anti-religion ... I think both extremes are pretty bad sometimes ... the atheists who keep suing over "In God we trust" on money and the atheists AND religious folks who objected to "One nation under God" in the Pledge (so that we don't even say the Pledge of Allegience anymore) are both pretty radical in their thinking and out of alignment with the normal mainstream folks
It's because fanaticism is a personality trait, not a trait of a religion. I explained this to my mother in law once as such:
What do you get when you have an insufferable, evangelical Christian that becomes an Atheist? You get an insufferable, evengelical Atheist. If the Westboro Baptist Church were to suddenly stop believing in god, all that would probably change is the writing on their signs.
That is so horribly untrue in my opinion. In fact, if anything I see people trying too hard to pull religion out everything.
In fact even the suggestion of any spirituality is expunged. For example, In the late 70's the Force was a spiritually powered phenomena. In 2000, it was telekinetic bacteria. WTF?
People can justify pretty muchanything based on "their religion". Shit, a certain ethnic group was given other people's land to form a whole country because if was promised to them by their god.
Well, I demand to be funded for life based on my faith. Please give me your money. God promised it to me while I was in the woods praying.
That's more George Lucas no longer having to answer to anyone when making his movies. If George Lucas had limitations and people around him that had the balls to tell him when something is stupid, there's a chance those movies were terrible.
I think what's more pathetic than this guy getting a refund is all the anti-religious trolling going on in this thread. I myself am Christian, but I don't use every thread as an opportunity to bash atheists or other religions or to proselytize on what I believe. Why is it some people just can't help but to smack religion at every opportunity? It does not make you more or less logical to have religious beliefs, it does not make you a better person to be atheist. Jerks come in every flavor, as do good people. I really wish people that think of themselves as "better" than others would gain some freaking humility and learn to treat people they disagree with something over with a shred of respect and decency. You think you're better because you're an atheist? Lead by example then. You know who you are. You're just as bad as this guy whining about a baptism scene. "Oh no, people have religions! I must whine about it all the time!" Can't you see what you're doing? Do you really hate people that much that you don't even know simply because they believe in something you do not? Not every religious person is trying to shove it down your throat, so could you please give the hate a rest for a while?
I think what's more pathetic than this guy getting a refund is all the anti-religious trolling going on in this thread. I myself am Christian, but I don't use every thread as an opportunity to bash atheists or other religions or to proselytize on what I believe. Why is it some people just can't help but to smack religion at every opportunity? It does not make you more or less logical to have religious beliefs, it does not make you a better person to be atheist. Jerks come in every flavor, as do good people. I really wish people that think of themselves as "better" than others would gain some freaking humility and learn to treat people they disagree with something over with a shred of respect and decency. You think you're better because you're an atheist? Lead by example then. You know who you are. You're just as bad as this guy whining about a baptism scene. "Oh no, people have religions! I must whine about it all the time!" Can't you see what you're doing? Do you really hate people that much that you don't even know simply because they believe in something you do not? Not every religious person is trying to shove it down your throat, so could you please give the hate a rest for a while?
belief/faith does in fact make someone less logical as belief/faith is in itself illogical.
Religion is like telling me a square is round when I can prove that a square is square. Virtually everything in any religious text can be disproved and yet the religious refuse to except that. So who is the Troll when the religious clam a man lived in a fish for a week or a boat contained 2 of each species both of which can easily be disproved.
Sure we can't fully disprove god....but we can disprove just about every single story in your religious text....but to you 2 + 2 = 73.7 because your religion says so.
It becomes hard to be nice to people who continually say 2 + 2 = 73.7 because their book says so....Some of us non religious do try though.