The MPAA has filed suit against 2 websites that claim to allow the viewing of pirated films, most of which still in theaters.
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Hollywood Goes After 2 Piracy Sites
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Mr.Pickles
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I can't tell you how many films I reported. I love going out and watching movies but sites like this are killing me because here I am paying 7-10 bucks a ticket and people are watching them for free...the major problem I see they are having with ssupload is that the movies are hosted on another site and they are just linking them. but I actually hope both get shut down.
Bit bitter, arn't we? So your not actually reporting them cause their illegal or its "the right thing" to do, but because your mad everyone else doesnt pay what you pay? What next, report people who sneak in soda and popcorn from a store because they didnt pay 10 bucks for a 15 ounce soda and a handfull of popcorn?
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I love going out and watching movies but people like MrPickles are killing me because here I am paying 11-15 bucks a ticket and MrPickles is watching them for nearly half that.
Umm, i would report it, thats stealing, and it should not go unpunished. But to each his own, I hope you never open a business.
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I'd rather not watch a shitty rip of a cinema movie. I want to see it in full projection resolution with the discrete multichannel sound. I'll pay the money to see a movie in a theater if it is good enough of a movie to merit me actually driving somewhere to see it. Lately though, there just haven't been any good movies out. Ticket prices aren't too bad where I'm at, but it is starting to get ridiculous.
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I see movies for free because my friend is the manager at my local theater...
but honestly, I wouldn't pay to see some of the crappy movies I've seen and if I had paid for them, I'd really feel stupid.
Maybe Hollywood should focus more on better movies than tracking pirates.
but honestly, I wouldn't pay to see some of the crappy movies I've seen and if I had paid for them, I'd really feel stupid.
Maybe Hollywood should focus more on better movies than tracking pirates.
That wouldn't stop people, trust me.
And trust me, i feel real stupid for spending $9.50 to see War - wow that movie sucked.
I have no problems with the sites or any site to that nature. I cant stand actors getting paid ridiculous amounts of money for one film, then complaining that their losing money bc people aren't going and seeing them in theaters. Also with the music industry. I say download and watch whatever, Im more than sure those people can survive if we dont go a pay for a ticket/CD.... Poor actors/directors/singers....
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Every time an actor hugs Hugo Chavez, someone downloads their movie. 
Manaknight
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thats just it, most movies coming out are garbage... its nothing but special effects junk, VERY few movies are actually well done anymore, and even the ones that aren't just explosions and cheap thrills still aren't worth the rediculous price they charge.
this quotes got it right.
i don't download movies, because most movies nowadays aren't even worth the download time. IF by some strange chance a movie that doesn't entirely suck comes out, then i'll buy it and watch it at home, for the price of two tickets i can have it forever. I don't care what people say, the movie theater experience sucks, and i didn't like it even before hd and home theater, but now that home theater is affordable, i see no reason at all to go to movies, i can have great image quality and beautiful surround sound without leaving my home. that is beautiful.
as for the pirating... movie companies are getting what they deserve and i fully support the resistance to their overpriced, destruction of an art form. the people in control are greedy pigs and should be brought down and flogged in the street... now THAT i would pay to see
sorry for the rant, the movie industry angers me greatly....ironically coming from someone who does computer animation.
I agree, the theatre experience does suck. Maybe it's just here in the UK, but you always get kids mucking about, crappy seats, people rustling snack bags.... the list goes on.
As for your comment about greedy pigs & street based floggings - hand me the cat o' nine tails. The sooner the movie industry wakes up and realises that we're all quite well informed individuals that will not be shoved around, the happier everyone will be.
There's a car park near to where I live, it backs on to a road with shops, bars, restaurants etc. They could (like the rest of Cheltenham) charge a small fortune. They don't. That car park is full ever day. There are plenty of other places very nearby that you could shove your motor for free, but why bother when you can stick it in Bath Road car park for 3hrs for $2?
Sorry, but I get the idea that many of you don't understand how the film industry operates...
1. Movie tickets ARE fair prices (plain out economics)
2. Not going to movie theaters hurt the theaters MUCH MORE than it hurts the studios (plain out cinema studies)
3. A "potential sucky" movie is not a valid reason to steal, I mean download (plain out basic human morals)
Oh wait...I'm getting my degrees in two of the subjects...and I think I learned the last one in grade school...?
1. Movie tickets ARE fair prices (plain out economics)
2. Not going to movie theaters hurt the theaters MUCH MORE than it hurts the studios (plain out cinema studies)
3. A "potential sucky" movie is not a valid reason to steal, I mean download (plain out basic human morals)
Oh wait...I'm getting my degrees in two of the subjects...and I think I learned the last one in grade school...?
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when it comes to morals i go with the concept of amorality.
morals were created by humans, therefore people who want money can socially engineer stuff to be right or wrong. and because they are only making 4 billion instead of 4.5 billion its wrong for the peasants to turn on the masters.... yeah sorry you can't afford more than 2 private islands this year......
hurting the theaters? if the movie theater experience is something i do not enjoy then this would most likely not bother me, i think the future is in home theater.
as for fair economics... how bout spend less on special effects, spend less on actors, trust me i spent time in film school, there are actors that do way better acting and will work for way less than the "stars". furthermore i have seen movies that destroyed major studio releases in terms of writing and cleverness, and they were mad for fractions of major films, when i dabbled in film i made one or two that got showed to decent crowds, after one of the showings i was told by a few people that the ending actually made them cry. i made that movie on about 100 bucks, not counting equipment rental (which wasn't all that much for a lighting kit and prosumer dv cam).
so bottom line is... its not as clear cut as that, and its a total scam any way you look at it. better writing and more compelling films can be made at a fraction of the cost. i actually like to think when i watch movies, not tune out to blowing stuff up
morals were created by humans, therefore people who want money can socially engineer stuff to be right or wrong. and because they are only making 4 billion instead of 4.5 billion its wrong for the peasants to turn on the masters.... yeah sorry you can't afford more than 2 private islands this year......
hurting the theaters? if the movie theater experience is something i do not enjoy then this would most likely not bother me, i think the future is in home theater.
as for fair economics... how bout spend less on special effects, spend less on actors, trust me i spent time in film school, there are actors that do way better acting and will work for way less than the "stars". furthermore i have seen movies that destroyed major studio releases in terms of writing and cleverness, and they were mad for fractions of major films, when i dabbled in film i made one or two that got showed to decent crowds, after one of the showings i was told by a few people that the ending actually made them cry. i made that movie on about 100 bucks, not counting equipment rental (which wasn't all that much for a lighting kit and prosumer dv cam).
so bottom line is... its not as clear cut as that, and its a total scam any way you look at it. better writing and more compelling films can be made at a fraction of the cost. i actually like to think when i watch movies, not tune out to blowing stuff up
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Do you report the theater for charging $5 for a coke and $7 for a large bag of M&M's that normally cost $3 or $1 anywhere else?
that is stealing...
ticket prices arent up because of piracy, PERIOD, is cause they make so many bad movies and have to cover the costs.
Why is in in costa rica i can see a movie for $4 but in Canada that same movie is $11
just because people like you can't grasp a simple concept of legal process, copyright infringement is not stealing. Stealing involves taking physical possessions with the intent to deprive the other party of said possessions.
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i dont really remember a movie i've seen in the past couple years which was memorable enough for me to get a second viewing. Most of the movies at the theatres were freaking terrible and if i had thought better and not let my date pick the movie we would've been better off at a cafe or a bar. Justifying 10 plus dollars on a crappy movie is kinda hard to do, when those kind of movie's mainly rely of special fx's just to keep you occupied. I don't mind a mindless film where shit just blows up once in a while, but sometimes enough is enough and my brain is best served somewhere else.
No that is not stealing...He is just choosing to BUY them somewhere else first...He is still legally buying them
Clearly you did not read what i quoted, so go back and do that now. I quoted someone saying they would steal Physical property, but in the digital age, stealing invokes more than Physical possesion.
And theaters don't steal when YOU pay 5 bucks for a soda, go to any attraction place like cedar point and pay 2 bucks out of a vending machine.
They charge that amount because people WILL pay it, its smart business nothing more.
Thank you for your time
And in the age of unequal minimum wage and regular wages compared to the cost of living, price gourging is stealing as well. But no, even in the digital age, stealing still requires one person to deprive the other of an item. Unless you are somehow erasing the master or backup copies from the copyright holders files, you are not commiting theft, and will not be prosecuted, much less convicted of theft.
And clearly you did not read the quote you quoted either. One, you quoted me. Two, Buying snacks at Pathmart or Walmart to sneak into the theater is not theft/stealing either.
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One thing is clear,there are many greedy and self centered amoral children on this site.
So stealing isnt stealing now? Oh,I get it !
So stealing isnt stealing now? Oh,I get it !
Anyone ever been to the Arclight in Hollywood (CA)? That is the type of theatre where it is reasonable to pay $12-15 a ticket. They have huge theatre rooms (possibly 3 times the size of a average mall theatre). You cannot talk during the movie, any type of disruption will get you removed, There is assigned seating, they even escort you to your seat (at least they did to me a few times). I love it, I can actually sit back and watch the movie without any interruptions.
After going there for a few movies, I cant stand going any where else. No one here wants to pay money to see a decent movie in a small rowdy theatre. If "Hollywood" found a way to internet-stream these new theatre releases for a decent price, in an average quality, it might have a bigger chance of beating piracy. Now you may think that this way would kill off movie theatres, but I think it would kill off low quality theatres. It would beat their price and possibly even their quality.
I'm not saying piracy is right or wrong, but everyone knows shutting these sites down does no good for anyone.
After going there for a few movies, I cant stand going any where else. No one here wants to pay money to see a decent movie in a small rowdy theatre. If "Hollywood" found a way to internet-stream these new theatre releases for a decent price, in an average quality, it might have a bigger chance of beating piracy. Now you may think that this way would kill off movie theatres, but I think it would kill off low quality theatres. It would beat their price and possibly even their quality.
I'm not saying piracy is right or wrong, but everyone knows shutting these sites down does no good for anyone.
Mr.Pickles
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I live in California and that is for a decent theater 7 for the cheap show and 10 for the premiere. I don't know how you get raped but I think I do on the amount of movies i go out and see and if people went to theaters and watched movies instead of stealing we could have cheaper prices all around...who knows..
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VIP in costa rica is $4,000 approx. colones which is like $8 US, for this you get pleather reclining chairs, WAITERS that come to your seat and take orders, this ranges from typical movie food to liqour, beer, SUSHI!!! and it is not overpriced either!
so if they can do it for $8 in a 2nd / 3rd world country do all of this..... why is it in such a strong economic power(s) as north america... they cost double the price and imagine if theydid what VIP does how much MORE the price would be...
so if they can do it for $8 in a 2nd / 3rd world country do all of this..... why is it in such a strong economic power(s) as north america... they cost double the price and imagine if theydid what VIP does how much MORE the price would be...
Manaknight
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well it doesn't help that our dollar is in the toilet, but aside from that its sick corporate capitalism. there are large factors but it comes down to the big guys need to keep bleeding people for as much as possible, something tells me that in costa rica it isn't exactly an american theater conglomerate running the show.
the sad part is that volume doesn't change anything. IF movies got substantially better, and the quality beat an hd home theater, and that brought the moviegoers back to the seats, they wouldn't lower their prices to reflect the traffic, they would just laugh at the obscene raping the movie crowd just took....
the sad part is that volume doesn't change anything. IF movies got substantially better, and the quality beat an hd home theater, and that brought the moviegoers back to the seats, they wouldn't lower their prices to reflect the traffic, they would just laugh at the obscene raping the movie crowd just took....
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(I actually posted this in a different thread but its in regards to this shi**y theatre experience these days, unless im taking somene or going with some friend/family members its pointless cause an HDTV period looks so much better, let alone my HDTV home theatre)
Oh yeah, and someone tell the movie companies to offer some type of HD movie service, maybe the ability to stream movies that are in the theatres for the same price, but on the home setup/pc in HD for HDTV's. Believe me theyll have my money, I'd be willing to pay $8 or whatever to watch one movie (like a timed 24 hour rental) on my HDTV even if it was on my home theatre instead of a local theatre. Cause local theatres look like shi* compared to real HD material.
Xbox 360 has a great HD download service, now give us some HD movies that are currently in theatres and charge as much as $10 for them and theyll make some real money. The whole wait 4-5 monthes after the movie is out of theatres is dumb as heck in this day and age. Get with the technology mpaa/hollywood.
Oh yeah, and someone tell the movie companies to offer some type of HD movie service, maybe the ability to stream movies that are in the theatres for the same price, but on the home setup/pc in HD for HDTV's. Believe me theyll have my money, I'd be willing to pay $8 or whatever to watch one movie (like a timed 24 hour rental) on my HDTV even if it was on my home theatre instead of a local theatre. Cause local theatres look like shi* compared to real HD material.
Xbox 360 has a great HD download service, now give us some HD movies that are currently in theatres and charge as much as $10 for them and theyll make some real money. The whole wait 4-5 monthes after the movie is out of theatres is dumb as heck in this day and age. Get with the technology mpaa/hollywood.
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meh. i hope the riaa dies a horrible death like SCO
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Uhm, anybody willing to sit through a telesync or cam wasn't going to go to the theater in the first place. The image quality is right up there with watching scrambled porn on cable and it takes a real cheapass to consider those rips an acceptable experience.
That said, I'd suspect that the decline in ticket sales has a lot to do with the surge in alternative entertainment. Broadband has really made the internet an incredible multimedia and entertainment platform, even when you keep to the purely legal side. Video games are bigger than ever and home theaters (in HD even) are cheaper than ever.
That said, I'd suspect that the decline in ticket sales has a lot to do with the surge in alternative entertainment. Broadband has really made the internet an incredible multimedia and entertainment platform, even when you keep to the purely legal side. Video games are bigger than ever and home theaters (in HD even) are cheaper than ever.
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Will say your wrong there with HD camcorders and better qaulity cameras out, it may suprise you just how good some tele (cam+direct sound) and cams are these days...... it sure wont ever be as good as a theater experience or a DVD / Hd / BR, but i would rather watch one of those in my home and see if i like it then go to a theater, pay $15 and hate the movie and waste my cash.
Has nothing to do with being cheap or not, for some people scrambled pron is more then enough for them to get off,while others like the real thing.. to each their own.
Manny Calavera
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If your paying 11 bucks for a ticket in Canada,you are not looking hard enough,you can see new movies in the threatre for much cheaper,shop around.Here in Ottawa there are
theatres that charge 3.50 to 8 bucks (on new releases !!) depending on the day of the week you go.
You've been watching too many of the *IAA's advertisements. It's copyright infringement, thanks. Also it's not piracy, that's when you take your boat and go shoot at people on another boat and take their stuff. Somebody should look up their propaganda guys and run for president, they'd be a shoe-in with the quality work they seem to be doing getting people to believe their crap.
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