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krotch said:Hmmm....lot of ATI cards breaking....That's ATI for ya.
Wildace said:i went from a 9700 pro to 2 x800xt's
jon_k said:If this poll is any reflection on the greater population of video card buyers,
PureBooYah said:knock stupid statements like this off and the thread won't turn into a flame war and will stay open
jon_k said:I am sticking with nVidia because the last card I owned was a GF4Ti4600 the last decent nVidia card series. I don't upgrade every product cycle, more like every 3-4 product cycles is when I upgrade. If this poll is any reflection on the greater population of video card buyers, ATI is in for some serious trouble. In this poll alone nVIdia is ouselling them by triple.
Tigerblade said:And the people sticking with Nvidia.....well I'm shocked yo ueven owned an fx card in the first place......at least ull get better performance this time round eh
quoted for absolute truthTigerblade said:Don't tell me you think that seriously......this forum is heavily populated by Nvidia sheep and ANY ati thread is jumped on.....
Yes, people are going back to Nvidia, but that poll is by no means the actual picture.....
CIWS said:It's almost amazing/sad to watch how much self control a lot of folks do not have.
Dijonase said:A month after buying my X800 Pro I started to really read the reviews of the 6800GT. I sold off my X800 and bought the GT.
PureBooYah said:this is just the enthusiast market, it doesn't make up that much of a total company sales. I don't think ATI is in trouble at all, they have a very good cards out they just fall short in some benchmarks to nvidia's cards. it's not like the x800 series sucks.
Very true.emorphien said:I'm amazed at how many people bought an X800 pro only to switch once they find out its not what they hoped for. This is why you don't buy things when they've just come out folks.
It's simple really. The ATI cards weren't superior. A lot of people just followed the fad then, just like those that had to get an x800p but now are returning them and getting a GT. Then, the 9xxx cards tested faster in some games, while the 5xxx cards tester faster in other games, overall pretty on par with each other. So, the decision came down to "who will have better performance increases through drivers, over time?", and based on the past, the answer to that of course was/is nVidia. And I've been more than satisfied with my decision.Of course I'm also amazed that back in the ATI 9xxx vs nVidia 5xxx, how few people switched to the then superior ATI card...........
The same happens now, although this time the advantage is leaning towards nVidia. ATI drivers improved performance some, so did nVidias, I don't see this being much different now, there's just more legacy and favoritism for nVidia. The ATI hardware of the 9xxx time however was superior, more efficient, better IQ, faster. Sure some games favored nVidia (OGL for example) and DX9 favored ATI, but ATI was still stronger overall.Badger_sly said:It's simple really. The ATI cards weren't superior. A lot of people just followed the fad then, just like those that had to get an x800p but now are returning them and getting a GT. Then, the 9xxx cards tested faster in some games, while the 5xxx cards tester faster in other games, overall pretty on par with each other. So, the decision came down to "who will have better performance increases through drivers, over time?", and based on the past, the answer to that of course was/is nVidia. And I've been more than satisfied with my decision.
I also feel slighted as a die hard XGI fan.DirtyApe said:what about the people that donr fall into the given categories? just leave em hanging eh?
Hehehe. By the poll options or by XGI themselves?pxc said:I also feel slighted as a die hard XGI fan.
The R480 is the next ATI high end chip and it's on the 2004 roadmap. The NV48 (NV45 doesn't count since it's the same core as the NV40, just an "optimized shrink") is nvidia's next high end core.emorphien said:Weren't there rumors of a new GPU from ATI coming out (R500 or something, the R420 was just a holdover), and does nVidia have anything planned for first half 02? Might upgrade then, might not.
Ahh, yeah. 6 month cycle is pretty much dead, and hopefully for the sake of technology, competition and prices, ATI actually has a new core to show instead of extending the life (rather successfully though) of what's basically a highly pimped 9700 core. That said, I'm also curious because the next ATI core/optimized shrink from nVidia might come around the time I'd consider upgrading cards. That is, of course, if I really feel like it. My video upgrade cycle has traditionally been at least 2 years. That and if they come with AGP connections, cuz I'm not gonna upgrade everything.pxc said:The R480 is the next ATI high end chip and it's on the 2004 roadmap. The NV48 (NV45 doesn't count since it's the same core as the NV40, just an "optimized shrink") is nvidia's next high end core.
I don't think nvidia or ATI stick to the 6 month cycle anymore, so while those chips should be "introduced" around October/November, cards probably won't be available until early next year.
jon_k said:I am sticking with nVidia because the last card I owned was a GF4Ti4600 the last decent nVidia card series. I don't upgrade every product cycle, more like every 3-4 product cycles is when I upgrade. If this poll is any reflection on the greater population of video card buyers, ATI is in for some serious trouble. In this poll alone nVIdia is ouselling them by triple.
JayD said:I have an unopened PNY 6800 GT in hopes that my Gateway X800XT-PE will ship next week (yeah, yeah, I know. It'll never come, but maybe , just maybe it will). So I'm torn on what to do. I got the CompUSA discount on the 6800 GT and the 2-year replacement plan for a total of about $360. Yet, if my X800XT-PE comes, I will have only paid about $400. What should I do?