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Yeah... but burst... is alot different than in practice. Although I agree, eSata is the best thing I've ever added to my system. Hd's 2M away in an external enclosure... So useful!
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imacs get Core Duo 2 and a new 24" screen
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Yeah... but burst... is alot different than in practice. Although I agree, eSata is the best thing I've ever added to my system. Hd's 2M away in an external enclosure... So useful!
Black Morty Rackham
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In actuality, upgrading a Mac never voids the warranty. As long as you don't break anything and don't remove any "warranty void if sticker removed" stickers, you won't break the warranty just by upgrading.Archer75 said:
MrWizard6600
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sfuller said:
k well your 7600 must be high. because my tiny little 6600GT can "push" HL2 @ 1200X1000, with reasonable quality too.
MrWizard6600 said:
k well who owns a 7600? I've never used the card. Who owns a 24" imac yet? Anyone?
I have owned a 7800GTX and a 1900XT and they can run HL2 at 1600x1200 with everything pretty much maxed out on a 4400 o'cd to 2.8 ghz.
I currently own a 17" imac with 2gb ram. Read: that is a 1.83 core duo and a 1600 and it struggles with HL2 in XP, using bootcamp.
When you are talking 24", you're talking a bit more than 1600x1200 and that takes more horsepower than a 7600 can "push".
Since I have owned these pieces of equipment and am capable of deductive reasoning, I think that I can rightfully say that the 24" imac is paired with a shitty video card.
according to tom's hardware's vga chart (bleh), the 7600gt scores about 94fps in half life 2: episode 1, where as the best x1600 sits at 59fps (the base x1600 pro card, which *i think* is the 20" imac card, sits at 49fps). I've gotta say, your reasoning looks flawed.
sfuller said:
let's buy a 24" imac and run HL2 at native resolution, 4xaa 16xas with everything else maxed out and see how flawed that is.
Asking for apple to take their video cards seriously isn't totally unreasonable. Right now the lack of horsepower in the 24" imac is keeping me from buying one.
Asking for apple to take their video cards seriously isn't totally unreasonable. Right now the lack of horsepower in the 24" imac is keeping me from buying one.
kidicarus74
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sfuller said:
no, you can rightfully say that the 24" imac is paired with a shitty video card for your purposes or for gaming. apple doesn't make gaming machines; they make consumer machines and prosumer machines. what has apple ever done to give you the impression that they're even remotely interested in releasing a computer catering toward the niche gaming hardcore?
when running desktop applications like internet browsers, email clients, chat clients, etc. and doing day to day stuff like watching dvds, listening to music, creating something (like art in photoshop, or a podcast, or authoring a dvd of home movies) the imac shines because that's what it was meant to do. Can the imac run the latest PC games at 1900x1200 with full eyecandy turned on? most likely not, but how many people who actually purchase imacs are really are looking to spend $2000 on a machine to play games? most likely less than one percent of the market (and that's being generous). I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to upgrade the card to something better, it definitely would be, but that's kind of going against the point of an iMac: simplicity.
And as far as the comment about "having the freedom to choose parts" goes, you do have the freedom to: either you buy from apple, choosing the options they provide you, or you buy a PC from somewhere else, it's that simple.
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Good thing I canceled my order for my 20" I bought, I do digital photo work for a living and need the big screen, I think I'll get that instead 
I make enough money to spend about $4k on a computer if I use it for at least 1 year, so here's what I got:
# 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
# 250GB Serial ATA Drive
# NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB SDRAM
# SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
# 24-inch widescreen LCD
# AirPort Extreme
# Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
Total: $3000
Yeah, I know it's pricey and I'm only 16, but hey it's about time I got a new comp, haven't had one for 2 1/2 years
It should be here in 5-7 business days, I'll let you guys know whenI get it
I make enough money to spend about $4k on a computer if I use it for at least 1 year, so here's what I got:# 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
# 250GB Serial ATA Drive
# NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB SDRAM
# SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
# 24-inch widescreen LCD
# AirPort Extreme
# Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
Total: $3000
Yeah, I know it's pricey and I'm only 16, but hey it's about time I got a new comp, haven't had one for 2 1/2 years
It should be here in 5-7 business days, I'll let you guys know whenI get it
TheLordsServant said:Good thing I canceled my order for my 20" I bought, I do digital photo work for a living and need the big screen, I think I'll get that instead
# 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
# 250GB Serial ATA Drive
# NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB SDRAM
# SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
# 24-inch widescreen LCD
# AirPort Extreme
# Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
Total: $3000
Yeah, I know it's pricey and I'm only 16, but hey it's about time I got a new comp, haven't had one for 2 1/2 years
It should be here in 5-7 business days, I'll let you guys know whenI get it
please tell me you didnt spend an additional $750 for ram.
Tutelary said:Dear Lord. Spending that $750 officially qualifies as stupid. Could have gotten the 500gig HD as well as the 7600gt too.
That's one single 2GB stick plus one single 1GB stick.
A single 2GB stick direct from crucial.com is $1400. http://www.crucial.com/store/MParts....16GHz+Intel+Core+Duo+(24-inch)&WSPN=CT583778
Tomahawk said:
well people are getting raped willingly all over the place then arent they? They increased case size significantly and couldnt put in another ram slot or two along the way? Even the option for another gig at $750 is incredibly stupid in a mid-range consumer system. 1 friggin gig more, its insane.
Black Morty Rackham
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If that 88 is your birth year, you shouldn't be drunk, period.felix88 said:
TheLordsServant said:Good thing I canceled my order for my 20" I bought, I do digital photo work for a living and need the big screen, I think I'll get that instead
# 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
# 250GB Serial ATA Drive
# NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB SDRAM
# SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
# 24-inch widescreen LCD
# AirPort Extreme
# Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
Total: $3000
Yeah, I know it's pricey and I'm only 16, but hey it's about time I got a new comp, haven't had one for 2 1/2 years
It should be here in 5-7 business days, I'll let you guys know whenI get it
Holy crap! i know you said digital photo work but how do you get so much money at 16? And when you say "for a living" do you mean part time? Or are you homeschooled?
ampedxc27 said:
I've got him beat. I'm only 4 years old and I'm the CTO of a Fortune 500 company. I make $600,000 a year.
It's the internet. He can say whatever he wants. You can't be a "professional" anything at 16, since you can't live on your own and support yourself at that age. All of your income is disposable.
Hey check this out! http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/09/07/apples.new.imac.lineup/
You can upgrade the video card! Awesome!
To what, though?
You can upgrade the video card! Awesome!
To what, though?
slowbiz
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Yeah, I know you're a cheeky bastard and I'm only 9 years old. But hey, shut the fuck up!TheLordsServant said:Good thing I canceled my order for my 20" I bought, I do digital photo work for a living and need the big screen, I think I'll get that instead
# 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
# 250GB Serial ATA Drive
# NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB SDRAM
# SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
# 24-inch widescreen LCD
# AirPort Extreme
# Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
Total: $3000
Yeah, I know it's pricey and I'm only 16, but hey it's about time I got a new comp, haven't had one for 2 1/2 years
It should be here in 5-7 business days, I'll let you guys know whenI get it
At first I thought, wow, I have found my next computer, but if it is Merom I guess I would still go with the Mac Pro. Merom isn't as fast clock for clock as Conroe, Intel really needs to differentiate between the mobile and the desktop processor in the naming scheme. Merom should be Core 2 Duo Mobile or something along those lines.
Yawn. I just bought a 20" monitor to pair with my 1.83 iMac.
Still waiting for a Core 2 tower, Apple...
I'll drop $1500-1900 on that in a heartbeat. But I won't spend another dime on another all-in-one computer. I bought this iMac believing that Apple would produce something better for me in the short term. They haven't done that. So I'll sit here and wait.
Still waiting for a Core 2 tower, Apple...
I'll drop $1500-1900 on that in a heartbeat. But I won't spend another dime on another all-in-one computer. I bought this iMac believing that Apple would produce something better for me in the short term. They haven't done that. So I'll sit here and wait.
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Rocketpig said:
Isn't that why it's called the Mac Pro and not just the Mac?
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