In Game ads comming to CounterStrike?

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I was reading a few posts on the steam forums and came across this.

CS-Nation: Additionally, are there plans to introduce ads into the single player world of Half-Life 2? Or will this be a trial run for the program, and future endeavors hinge on how well the advertising goes over in CS1.6?

Doug Lombardi: Right now, we’re just testing things with CS 1.6.
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CS-Nation: Similar to the question above, are plans in the works for possibly adding in-game advertising to Counter-Strike: Source in the future?

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CS-Nation: How exactly will these advertisements be implemented? Can you cite any specific areas in maps where a player can expect to see an ad?

Doug Lombardi: The current plan is to put ads in a few different places. There will be some ads posted on walls in the game world, an ad on the scoreboard screen, and one in the letterboxed area of Spectator mode
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http://www.csnation.net/articles.php/interview_231/3

So what to make of this, well as doug pointed out there obviously trialing it, or about to start trialing it in CS1.6, the no answer to if it gets moved to source will based on if it makes them any money.

With the last updates to cl_restrict_server_commands and the retarded DWP, im not sure that valve are listening to the community anymore, and something like this raising its head in CSS, will be enough for me to move my servers over to a different game. Again it doesnt mention source games getting the in game ads, but you can be sure if 1.6 (which is played more than CSS) makes any money from it, CSS will go the same way.
 
Does anyone actually buy CS 1.6 anymore? I mean, if everyone already owns it, how else should they make money off it? Would you guys rather they completely stop supporting it completely instead? Companies should obviously support their games after release, but CS has been around forever and I think they've more than satisfied their end of the bargain.
 
This won't affect the majority of CS 1.6 players, especially outside the US. Why? They don't play off Steam anyway!
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Does anyone actually buy CS 1.6 anymore? I mean, if everyone already owns it, how else should they make money off it? Would you guys rather they completely stop supporting it completely instead?
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Yes, I would prefer it actually.

People need to move on from CS, even if it's only to CS:S. Keeping players hooked on really old games is never a good thing.
 
Frosteh said:
Yes, I would prefer it actually.

People need to move on from CS, even if it's only to CS:S. Keeping players hooked on really old games is never a good thing.
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I dislike CS also, and personally I wouldn't mind if they dropped it either. I just think its unreasonable for people to expect a decade + of game support for the initial purchase price. They have every justification in the world for just letting it die.
 
This is prolly why it is the perfect test bed for ingame ads..hopefully it all goes horribly awry and turns marketing folks off on the concept
 
urbsnspices said:
This is prolly why it is the perfect test bed for ingame ads..hopefully it all goes horribly awry and turns marketing folks off on the concept
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Amen.
 
I dont think it can go much worse then the dynamic weapons pricing, and that clusterfuck is still enabled...
 
What a bunch of jerks. Ads in a game are just WRONG. Unless they want to offer it free, and then use the ads to pay for it. Putting ads into something you already paid for is just plain retarded.
 
tskiller said:
I dont think it can go much worse then the dynamic weapons pricing, and that clusterfuck is still enabled...
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At least that can be turned off. I doubt admins will have any way to stop the ads.



 
Devnull said:
Putting ads into something you already paid for is just plain retarded.
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Last I checked there are ads in media that I assume you purchase on a regular basis.

Movies, Magazines, Cable TV, and even Books to a lesser extent all have ads and you pay for them don't you?

If the Ads fit the era of the game and actually look like part of the real environment, then I could care less.
 
J-Mag said:
Last I checked there are ads in media that I assume you purchase on a regular basis.

Movies, Magazines, Cable TV, and even Books to a lesser extent all have ads and you pay for them don't you?

If the Ads fit the era of the game and actually look like part of the real environment, then I could care less.
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yes ads are in magazines that I purchase now, but I already own CSS, why should they then add adverts to the game?
 
J-Mag said:
Last I checked there are ads in media that I assume you purchase on a regular basis.

Movies, Magazines, Cable TV, and even Books to a lesser extent all have ads and you pay for them don't you?

If the Ads fit the era of the game and actually look like part of the real environment, then I could care less.
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It's so odd than the little guy can be so alienated, that he will actually adopt and support an anti-consumer position. I hate ads in these other media, but you can not compare them here. You can not compare a game to cable TV. In a magazine you can just rip out all the ads like I do, or you can just turn the page. This would be like buying a DVD and having pop ups on the screen telling you to buy coca cola or trojan condoms. It is completely unacceptable.
 
Well if the ads are done like they're portayed on races, football, basketball, baseball etc, then it seems that this ad revenue scheme could fit in well. Like those Dell monitors in cs_office on Source would actually say dell on the back of them and the projector would say "InFocus" and if well accepted by the majority it could convince more companies to sposor gaming in general. The more gaming gets popular or becomes more accepted as mainstream media the more companies are going to want to make money of it.

I can see cpl_mill sponsored by General Mills with the occasional pallet of Cheerios throught the map. CS_assault could be revamped for a Walmart wherehouse. Home theater displays at Magnolia Hi-Fi could be equiped with X360's and Media Center HTPC's with GeoW. de_vegas could be a real vegas casino.
 
If they do it in a realist manner who cares. Not like you stare at the stuff anyways.
 
I wouldnt mind if they added more support for the game, add more maps and features.
 
kuyaglen said:
I can see cpl_mill sponsored by General Mills with the occasional pallet of Cheerios throught the map. CS_assault could be revamped for a Walmart wherehouse. Home theater displays at Magnolia Hi-Fi could be equiped with X360's and Media Center HTPC's with GeoW. de_vegas could be a real vegas casino.
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I could live with the drink machines in Office being coke or pepsi machines, no problem. But don't wanna see a BestBuy or Starbucks ad in Dust. If it's done where it fits, that's fine.




 
I dont see ads in games as being too bad as, long as they dont banner them on the screen. THere are so many ways to advertise using posters,billboard and, objects to use as weapons or, for distracting enemies. Face it if you were to toss a Pepsi or, Coke can how offensive would that be.
 
Relax guys,
All the arguing in the world is not going to change the plans that valve has for its game. If they decide to do in game advertising then so be it. It’s not that big a deal to see an add on a computer screen in cs_office.
 
BLenderhedd said:
I could live with the drink machines in Office being coke or pepsi machines, no problem. But don't wanna see a BestBuy or Starbucks ad in Dust. If it's done where it fits, that's fine.




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Agreed. As long as the ads aren't intrusive, I don't care as much. If you decide to put up a coke billboard like in 2142, then I have a problem.
 
For a game that old, I think it is ok, if they don't get stupid about it, and we want them to keep up support on it anyway.. Hell, I paid nearly $150 for win 98 and it did not receive support as long as CS has..

But, you need to expect that this will be taken to the extreme.. Over the next few years, it WILL get ridiculous..
You can trust in any corporation, to do some damn unpleasant things to make a buck...
The ads were inevitable.. As more and more people turn off the tv and turn on the computer.. Where did we think the advertisers were going to go?
 
Let me repeat this again.

Most 1.6 players DON'T play on Steam. No Steam = No Ads. If they implement aids into source and you don't like it? Just play a non-steam version and voila.
 
pigwalk said:
If they implement aids into source and you don't like it? Just play a non-steam version and voila.
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how do i go about playing Cs:S online without steam?
 
ellover009 said:
I wouldnt mind if they added more support for the game, add more maps and features.
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Then all the credit and such should go to gooseman. It's his game. I doubt he'd have expected his game to be capitalized like this.

@logan1
Private servers. There are quite a few out there actually.
 
pigwalk said:
Let me repeat this again.

Most 1.6 players DON'T play on Steam. No Steam = No Ads. If they implement aids into source and you don't like it? Just play a non-steam version and voila.
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do you have any information to back this up?

i don't think you know what your talking about.
 
I used to live in argentina, the Cafe's don't have ANY legitimate software, yet everyone plays CS 1.6 online? Every South American clan site for CS has full working clients to download, along with their server lists. I'm not going to give you any direct links, I doubt the mods would like me to link you guys to free working versions of CS 1.6, but if you google up Counter Strike and pretty much any damn country out there (Argentina, Romana, Paraguay, etc) you'll find exactly what I'm talking about.

These people aren't going to be bothered with ads. Yet me and you who have actually paid for the game will? F-That.
 
Counter Strike Source is a different story, as it was developed around Steam.
 
No it's not actually. There are non-steam clients for it also. I actually used to play with my Steam copy on private servers when I lived there (pings) and whenever Steam Updated I wouldn't be able to play until the private servers updated too.
 
Uhh, no. The only client I have ever seen was the one released threw steam. So unless you have proof to the contrary...
Even the dedicated server uses steam, it's just that they require a restart to update (at least they used to), however they don't require an account to function.
 
I don't mind the in-game ads. I just wish those greedy fuckfaces would lower the price on the games that use them. :rolleyes:
 
Xipher said:
Uhh, no. The only client I have ever seen was the one released threw steam. So unless you have proof to the contrary...
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We had 16 machines in the old Lan place I used to work at with the Non-Steam client. I'll search around and see if I still have that disc around.

On another tab I have opened a guide for Source w/o a legit steam account. Apparently there's a cracked version of Steam 3.0 and there's a program called Non Steam Down that are used to play on cracked servers. Looks like a huge pita to get going too. Glad I live in the US and I coulf actually afford my copy :D
 
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